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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 19:03:51 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by rbseabeach on Mon Apr 23 17:07:10 2012. No, that's not correct, he would have developed wherever he got the approval to do so. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 19:05:53 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 15:49:11 2012. That may be, but that's not ESPN's fault. You made it sound like it was aired on My9 because ESPN lost it some how. That's not the case. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Apr 23 21:40:00 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Apr 23 16:15:45 2012. That video seems to be somewhat dated, what with the Atlanta Thrashers, also I think I saw Ted and Song planes in the background.I won't even get into the illegal reg. # :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 24 02:59:28 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 15:49:11 2012. It makes perfect sense.One of the biggest selling points of the NFL are that ALL of its games are an EVENT. It's great marketing. That image also makes dumb shit like the draft a must-see event. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 24 03:02:35 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 15:21:41 2012. Dumping ESPN would be smart for Dish. They should go all out as the anti-sports pay provider. Why not?Sounds like a recipe for certain bankruptcy. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 24 05:46:36 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 24 02:59:28 2012. They can only do not because it's only a few games a year 1a week and only half of that home |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 24 05:47:00 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 24 03:02:35 2012. Yeah exactly |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Apr 24 10:53:42 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 23 18:32:12 2012. True but this was also a requested site by O'Malley for the Brooklyn Dodgers |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 24 16:21:35 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 24 03:02:35 2012. Sounds like a recipe for certain bankruptcy.Why? If Dish can do without the RSN's like SNY and YES, they can do without ESPN. Most sports fans have cable or Direct anyway. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Apr 24 16:27:33 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 22 14:06:31 2012. To answer your question look no further to Winnipeg that sold out EVERY game, for a metropolitan population of 750,000. Quebec City would love a hockey team since it has a population size similar to Winnipeg and the NHL was discussing perhaps a 2nd team in the Montreal area. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Apr 24 16:32:37 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Apr 22 19:49:09 2012. Wang has made it clear that he wants to go to any place with a Modern / New Facility so Quebec City with its new area would be an ideal choice, Kansas City is Wangs current alternative, seattle is probably going to be where the Coyotes will go as it will create a rivalry with neighborly Vancouver. Las Vegas has also come up numerous times as a possible NHL location since neither the MLB, NBA, NFL or NHL has a team there and it could be a huge gamble and an even bigger payoff for the NHL to plant a flag in the desert. October, April and May would be very difficult but if they can make it work in Florida, Vegas shouldn't be a problem/ |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Apr 24 17:32:56 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 22 18:19:25 2012. I partialy disagree---and will say that it has to do with the product put out on the ice. The real trouble for the Islanders is that they are in perhaps the strongest division in the NHL---the other teams are the Rangers, Flyers, Devils, and Penguins. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Apr 24 22:03:25 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 22 18:36:14 2012. I know you've been to |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 25 05:54:19 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Apr 24 22:03:25 2012. Haha, while I haven't been in the stadium for an actual Jets game, I have in fact seen what must happen there. (There were lots of Jets fans there for the Pro Bowl when I was there by the way).In any event, when I went to a Sports Authority to buy something in Miami once, the store almost had more Jets jerseys/TShirts, etc than Dolphins! |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 1 09:35:42 2012, in response to NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 21 20:53:46 2012. Here |
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Posted by JohnL on Tue May 1 09:53:32 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 1 09:35:42 2012. Thanks for the article. It just makes me believe that the whole point of this is to try and drum up some corporate welfare for the Islanders. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 1 12:29:31 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 1 09:35:42 2012. Yup. Barclays will give the Islanders a negotiating tool vs. Nassau County. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Tue May 1 12:35:20 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Apr 21 23:25:46 2012. +1Also, unless the Nets improves, I would think they'd need another team there to pull in the revenue. Who's going to want to go to a Nets game if they still suck? I doubt Nassau will spend tax dollars for a stadium, so it doesn't look like the Islanders are staying there. But if fans don't want to go to Brooklyn, would they rather see them go to Canada instead? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 12:38:48 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 1 12:29:31 2012. Perhaps they can finally implode the Coliseum and get a new one. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 12:43:06 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by grand concourse on Tue May 1 12:35:20 2012. so it doesn't look like the Islanders are staying there. Source? But if fans don't want to go to Brooklyn, would they rather see them go to Canada instead? I'd hate to seem them go, as they are a uniquely Long Island team. In Brooklyn, they are just ANOTHER NYC team. The Devils are also a NY metro team. How many locations have three hockey teams? Hockey isn't even hugely popular to support so many teams. At least as it is now, it's a "Long Island" team. To have the Rangers in Manhattan, and the Islanders a stone throw away in Brooklyn, with the Devils also so nearby is almost absurd. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 1 12:47:58 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 12:38:48 2012. Perhaps they can finally implode the Coliseum and get a new one.You and SMAZ lost the Shea Stadium argument and can't accept it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 12:51:05 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 1 12:47:58 2012. We definitely didn't lose the Shea Stadium argument. The place was an absolute dump. The only value it had was sentimental. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 1 12:54:27 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 12:51:05 2012. I'll admit Nassau has problems with the ceiling and asbestos. I also have problems with the lobby. It's cluttered and should have been widened to accommodate vendors who cause most of the clutter. THIW.SMAZ won't even show up for pizza. Feel bad for him. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 1 13:07:00 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 1 12:54:27 2012. Chris R16/R2730 never showed up at Sal's on Jamaica Avenue to eat pizza with you either something about he had quote other things going on unquote. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 1 13:15:25 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 1 13:07:00 2012. selkirk made fun of their pizza. it's a decent slice.Did you know that SMAZ can run 2 miles in 17 minutes? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue May 1 13:39:35 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by JohnL on Tue May 1 09:53:32 2012. Actually, it may have to do with trying to get Kate Murray to reconsider her decision on Lighthouse. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue May 1 13:41:30 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 1 13:15:25 2012. Did you know that SMAZ can run 2 miles in 17 minutes?That's pretty fast. SMAZ is awesome... terribly misguided when it comes to politics and college football but still awesome. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 14:21:28 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 1 13:15:25 2012. Did you know that SMAZ can run 2 miles in 17 minutes?and without knees. I use to be able to run it in less than 14. also 80+ pushups plus 70-80 sit-ups in 2 minutes. Back to back. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 14:23:30 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 1 12:47:58 2012. The Shea argument was open and shut.The place was a toilet. A latrine. A head. A WC. A shitter. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 14:57:40 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 1 12:54:27 2012. SMAZ won't even show up for pizza. Feel bad for him.I had to wash my hair that day. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Tue May 1 15:20:33 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 12:43:06 2012. The recent measure where voters were given the choice to support or deny the funding of the new arena and they voted no. So what makes you think they'll change on that stance?So by that thinking, it's Nassau or elsewhere (non NY). Imo, if I cared about the Islanders, even Brooklyn would be better than Canada or some place else if they can't stay in Nassau. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue May 1 15:27:42 2012, in response to NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 21 20:53:46 2012. Guess they never heard of the LIRR. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 15:41:47 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 14:57:40 2012. LOL! your pal, Fred |
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Posted by JohnL on Tue May 1 18:47:32 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue May 1 13:39:35 2012. Hm. I see lots of conflicting stories there. Charles Wang wants to build something, Kate Murray wants to build something else. Do you have the Cliff’s notes version? Thanks in advance. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 2 18:36:48 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by italianstallion on Tue May 1 15:27:42 2012. Whywould someone want to take the train to brooklyn when now they can just easily drive...an exit right off the oarkway...and very easy parking? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 2 18:39:07 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 14:23:30 2012. +1 |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 2 18:40:14 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by grand concourse on Tue May 1 15:20:33 2012. They voted down the lighthouse project. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Wed May 2 23:33:12 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 2 18:40:14 2012. Ok, but unless the owner builds the new arena from his own pockets, I still doubt Nassau is going to approve any plans that requires a few hundred million dollars from taxpayers to fund it. This is the same Nassau that flipped off the MTA over 10s of millions they owed to the MTA to run LIB, which lead to NICE.So I have my doubts about the Islanders coming to terms to get that new stadium in Nassau. So let's say hypothetically IF the Islanders were to leave Nassau would you rathey they: A) move to Brooklyn (though inconvenient, is a train ride away or even a drive thru a very congested Flatbush Av). B) move outside NY State and possibly to Canada. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Wed May 2 23:34:15 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 2 18:40:14 2012. Ok, but unless the owner builds the new arena from his own pockets, I still doubt Nassau is going to approve any plans that requires a few hundred million dollars from taxpayers to fund it. This is the same Nassau that flipped off the MTA over 10s of millions they owed to the MTA to run LIB, which lead to NICE.So I have my doubts about the Islanders coming to terms to get that new stadium in Nassau. So let's say hypothetically IF the Islanders were to leave Nassau would you rather* they: A) move to Brooklyn (though inconvenient, is a train ride away or even a drive thru a very congested Flatbush Av). B) move outside NY State and possibly to Canada. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 3 00:22:25 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by grand concourse on Wed May 2 23:33:12 2012. I would not mind seeing them move to Canada. One less team whose salary is built into the cable bill. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Thu May 3 00:53:59 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 3 00:22:25 2012. But what I'm trying to understand is: if a new arena deal falls thru, is the 'Nassau or bust' mentality so strong that Islanders fans would rather see the team leave the state because they don't want to go to Brooklyn? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu May 3 01:49:54 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 3 00:22:25 2012. AMEN! |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 3 05:38:51 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 3 00:22:25 2012. I don't care enough about hockey to really care. But as I said new york city doesn't need two teams. 3 actually if you include the devils. No region has that in terms of hockey. The only thing that makes the islanders unique is that it's auniquely long island team. As a new york city team it won't do as well. It's already lost a lot of interest |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 3 05:49:04 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by grand concourse on Thu May 3 00:53:59 2012. They would do better in another state at this point ny city doesnt need 2 teams ......3 teams. It always worked because the isanders where are uniquely long island team. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Thu May 3 12:20:48 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 3 05:49:04 2012. Alright then, it's the diehard fan's loss. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Thu May 3 12:26:51 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 3 05:38:51 2012. Islanders haven't been relevant for years finishing either last or near the bottom in the standings. Maybe if they were doing good, and the Rangers or Devils were doing poorly, then there could be some more interest in keeping the Islanders here.Also what makes you so sure the majority of Islanders fans would be so against taking the train vs driving? What's the harm in letting the Islanders play in Brooklyn for a year and see if it works out or not? If it fails then let Canada take them. Charles Wang owns the team, so it is his call on what to do with them. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu May 3 12:41:15 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by grand concourse on Thu May 3 12:26:51 2012. ?????And that's the point, it's Charles Wang's team. How is it any worse for me to say it wouldn't work well in Brooklyn than for you to say "let them go there it's Charle's Wang's call". It's his call either way, so that's not any more of a reason against my position than it's for your position. And I agree with the article. The Islanders have an eroded fan base as it is, because of how they play, they won't be increasing it in Brooklyn in the current state any more than if they stayed where they are....in fact they would probably lose more than they gain with that move, as why would a "ranger fan" become an Islander fan, just because they are "in Brooklyn"....especially with the way they have been playing? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu May 3 14:28:02 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 2 18:36:48 2012. If they are fans they'll get used to it. Look at all the CT and Westchester residents who take the train to Yankee Stadium. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu May 3 14:57:45 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by italianstallion on Thu May 3 14:28:02 2012. What baseball team would they be following if not for the Yankees? IN NYC there's two others, all nearby. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 3 14:58:07 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by grand concourse on Thu May 3 00:53:59 2012. What is so funny is that the contract between the NHL and the Islanders states that they must play on Long Island. "Long Island" was not defined in the contract to be "Nassau and Suffolk Counties" which is what most people consider to be Long Island. As a result they can move to Brooklyn and still not violate their NHL contract.How convenient that they are finding asbestos in the Coliseum now and the Islanders could use that fact to get out of playing games their, citing "unsafe work environment". |
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