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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 22 21:38:55 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Scrabbleship on Sun Apr 22 21:34:05 2012.

So you'd rather have the death penalty so the Whalers could come back?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 22 21:40:16 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 22 21:32:25 2012.

Rangers fans are dicks wherever they go. LIRR. Walking around MSG. They are loud and disruptive. Islanders fans aren't, but I guess it could change if they start winning again.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 22 21:41:45 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 22 21:40:16 2012.

I find it depends on whom gets to the cheap beer first.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Scrabbleship on Sun Apr 22 21:51:31 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 22 14:06:31 2012.

A willing owner with a hand in Quebecois media and guaranteed profits from Day One, especially since Winnipeg proved that Canadians in small markets will pay top dollar for the NHL.

This, however, is the only plus with Quebec City. The downsides are much bigger.

* Moving a second US team to a small Canadian market might give the NHL a black eye in the US. Remember, Winnipeg only got a second try because their owners DEMANDED a team.
* Aligning Quebec City, especially with the upcoming CBA, would be a pain. There is no viable way to put a team there in the current alignment without pissing several key teams off.
* As it is, the Alberta teams have issues getting key free agents and after the jingoistic celebration ends Winnipeg will be in the same boat. Quebec will have the same issue magnified further because...
* A city that is 98% Francophone (the majority of that unilingual) is going to have a hard time getting non-Francophone North American players to play. The original Nordiques had this problem, remember the Eric Lindros debacle?
* In this day and age, would it be smart to have a team near-invisible from the media of the league's main language?
* Though the odds of this happening are very low, what if the Loonie goes below near-par again? The smaller Canadian franchises would be at risk again and Quebec would be at risk again.

Moving someone to Quebec City would only hurt the NHL in the long run. Heck, back in the WHA days people had doubts about the Nordiques being viable.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 22 21:52:51 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 22 21:41:45 2012.

on whom gets to the cheap beer

Not an easy task at a stadium!

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Scrabbleship on Sun Apr 22 21:54:43 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 22 21:38:55 2012.

Most Nutmeggers think Malloy is nuts especially in the wake of the Komisarjevsky trial where death was a justified penalty. It's like he's going against the wants of his constituents.

Connecticut having the death penalty was/is one of its few things that gives it uniqueness from being a waystation for New York and Massachusetts. The Whalers were the same. What does CT have left to call its own, Stew Leonard's and UConn basketball?

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 22 22:01:22 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Scrabbleship on Sun Apr 22 21:54:43 2012.

We don't really want the death penalty here as much as you think we do. It costs a lot of money to administer and it turns out it's cheaper to just toss em in the clink and throw away the key.

What does CT have left to call its own, Stew Leonard's and UConn basketball?

Yale
Mystic Seaport
Nautilus
New Haven Pizza
Shore Line East RR
New Brih-enn

Other stuff too

your pal,
Fred

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 22 22:03:50 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 22 22:01:22 2012.

ESPN

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 22 22:19:28 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 22 22:01:22 2012.

And to think you could be speaking French there instead....

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 22 22:21:41 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 22 22:19:28 2012.

Ach du Lieber!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 22 22:22:55 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 22 19:05:42 2012.

Perhaps the train ride to Newark is less irritating.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 22 22:25:28 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 22 22:01:22 2012.

The Otis Elevator Tower of Terror in Bristol.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 22 22:53:12 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 22 22:25:28 2012.

Haha, forgot about that.

The Timex Museum in Waterbury too.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 23 06:14:16 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 22 22:03:50 2012.

ESPN? Most of the Nutmeggers I know resent having ESPN in their home state if anything.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 08:08:07 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 23 06:14:16 2012.

LOL!!!! One of the most popular networks in television. But keep dreaming.

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Have you ever met a Nutmegger?

Posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 23 08:18:16 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 08:08:07 2012.

I think you haven't.


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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 23 08:29:14 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 23 06:14:16 2012.

ESPN is the only reason most people haven't yet dumped cable.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 08:31:44 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 23 06:14:16 2012.

Why would you say that? ESPN employs a lot of people and is the reason people keep cable.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 08:59:02 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 23 08:29:14 2012.

ESPN is the only reason most people haven't yet dumped cable.


ESPN?

ESPN does not have much content and they only get ratings when they air MNF or Yankees vs. Red Sox. Dish Network should dump ESPN just like they won't carry SNY and YES.

they rarely break the top 25


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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Easy on Mon Apr 23 09:05:37 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 08:59:02 2012.

It's a popular network among guys from teens to age 50 or so. Especially in the south/southeast where college football is very popular. It's also very hated by those same fans.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 09:11:32 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Easy on Mon Apr 23 09:05:37 2012.

I know that ESPN2 has must-see content like girls softball.

Dish needs to expand on their anti-sports strategy to keep costs down.



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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Easy on Mon Apr 23 09:17:52 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 09:11:32 2012.

I don't watch a ton of sports anymore, but someone was in fact telling me just the other day that sports were the only reason that he hasn't dumped cable for Hulu/Netflix.He mentioned ESPN.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Apr 23 09:20:46 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 09:11:32 2012.

Did you see the article about Central Islip - Ronkonkoma International Airport in Newsday? I do not have full access to the article so you need to subscribe to Newsday so you can post the article here in its entirety. It talks about the "dramatic decline in passengers" and the possibility of light rail from LIRR. To me, any quote dramatic decline in passengers unquote with respect to air is a good thing.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 09:28:10 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Apr 23 09:20:46 2012.

Thanks.

Did you hear about the Delta plane that took off from LGA and landed @ JFK?

I don't know why there is a big decline at Islip but I wonder if people are afraid of the SWA B737 and all the bad pub it got over the last two years?

The element of people who live on Long Island would rather drive to JFK to take jetBlue to visit family in Spring Hill and "Boca". THIW.



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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 09:31:52 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Easy on Mon Apr 23 09:17:52 2012.

Athletes are overpaid and the only way to afford their ridiculous demands is to charge cable/satellite subscribers. ESPN is popular, but if you look closer at where they come in compared to History, A&E, NICK, and other nets, they are not as popular as you would think.

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Re: Have you ever met a Nutmegger?

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 23 10:33:54 2012, in response to Have you ever met a Nutmegger?, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 23 08:18:16 2012.

Poster Fred G is one.

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Re: Have you ever met a Nutmegger?

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 10:34:46 2012, in response to Have you ever met a Nutmegger?, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 23 08:18:16 2012.

Sure he has. So have I and several others here.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Apr 23 10:45:55 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 23 08:29:14 2012.

ESPN is the only reason most people haven't yet dumped cable.

Our family's NBA habit, along with my mother's television watching habits are why we're still on satellite. FWIW, I could switch on my own, but given how much it costs to buy the shows online, it's not like one is saving that much money, and OTA television signals are crap out here.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 11:27:25 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 08:59:02 2012.

Dumping a national network like ESPN is not like dumping the Yankees channel or SNY (mets/jets) channel. They would be nuts to do that.
This is coming of course from railfans, many of which often aren't sports fans, so this is no surprise.

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Re: Have you ever met a Nutmegger?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 11:29:51 2012, in response to Have you ever met a Nutmegger?, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 23 08:18:16 2012.

I know lots of people in Conn. What kind of an asinine question is that?

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Re: Have you ever met a Nutmegger?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 11:30:49 2012, in response to Re: Have you ever met a Nutmegger?, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 10:34:46 2012.

HAHA, I met you even if I never met anyone else from Conn!

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Apr 23 11:38:05 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 11:27:25 2012.

This is coming of course from railfans, many of which often aren't sports fans, so this is no surprise.

Um You know this how?

;o)

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 11:38:16 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 08:59:02 2012.

they rarely break the top 25

Those ratings are for this past week. What interesting sports things are going on right now? The ratings for ESPN will depend on what's going on in sports. Lets see the ratings for January, February when football is going on at the end.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 12:37:56 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by Railman718 on Mon Apr 23 11:38:05 2012.

Heh, the way many of them post about sporting issues. It's certainly not all by any means, but there's a large percentage of railfans that are, no offense, "geeky" and not interested in sports (not that there's anything wrong with that, lol).

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Apr 23 12:40:42 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 12:37:56 2012.

Well I can see that point...

Here's a compromise railfan on the way to see a Yankees Game!

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 23 15:11:52 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 22 21:40:16 2012.

Rangers fans are dicks wherever they go. LIRR. Walking around MSG. They are loud and disruptive.

Maybe they're like locusts. When they get crowded together, they get aggressive. 8-)

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 15:17:53 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 11:38:16 2012.

Ratings are much higher durng MNF season of course.





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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 15:20:21 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 15:17:53 2012.

Yeah, it wouldn't be a surprise that they are low right now....nothing going on but Hockey Playoffs. When the NFL draft starts they may have a spike.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 15:21:41 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 11:27:25 2012.

Dumping a national network like ESPN is not like dumping the Yankees channel or SNY (mets/jets) channel. They would be nuts to do that.
This is coming of course from railfans, many of which often aren't sports fans, so this is no surprise.


LOL @ railfan analogy. Dumping ESPN would be smart for Dish. They should go all out as the anti-sports pay provider. Why not?

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 15:34:04 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 15:20:21 2012.

ESPN has a few good MNF games, and even that is deteriorating. They don't even have exclusive on that. Ch 9 televised the Giants vs. Saints game because of an NFL clause.



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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 15:44:27 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 15:34:04 2012.

If it's a local game, like Giants or some home team, it has to be on a broadcast channel.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 15:49:11 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 23 15:44:27 2012.

which is stupid. makes no sense.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Apr 23 15:52:59 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 15:49:11 2012.

Take it up with the NFL, their policy is that all away games have to be televised on broadcast TV in the away teams market. And if sold out by the 72 hour deadline, all home games have to be televised. True that the NFL seems to be unique among the major sports in this regard.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 16:10:17 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Apr 23 15:52:59 2012.

I know the rules. They are stupid. There's no relationship between ticket sales and games airing locally for free.

Teams should be allowed to cover unsold sections with black tarp so viewers can't see empty seats, which the NFL wants to avoid.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Apr 23 16:15:45 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 16:10:17 2012.

This is unreal. What an absolute joke.



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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 16:53:52 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Apr 23 16:15:45 2012.

Interesting. You should use this when you shave. Every one should.



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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Apr 23 17:00:13 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 22 06:07:09 2012.

I'm sure there are Ranger fans on LI how do they get to MSG? I would suppose that many do take the train. Barclays is closer. In addition to the 9 subway lines and the LIRR, the A,C,F, & G are not too far away. Maybe a parking facility could be built in Jamaica to allow LI fans to drive to Jamaica and then hop on the LIRR to see the Nets or Islanders

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Apr 23 17:07:10 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 22 06:10:20 2012.

Bruce Ratner could have easily built a new stadium in Nassau for the Nets & Islanders. He chose the Atlantic Terminal area for the transit options.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 23 18:30:10 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 16:10:17 2012.

In Jacksonville they close of sections of their stadium and don't even try to sell the seats in order to avoid blackouts. Under NFL rules, they have to block off the same seats all season (including the playoffs) and can't then decide to sell them if the game becomes popular and sells out.

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Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 23 18:32:12 2012, in response to Re: NHL: Brooklyn would be hard for Islanders fans, posted by rbseabeach on Mon Apr 23 17:07:10 2012.

He chose the Atlantic Terminal area because that's what he wanted to develop. He only bought the team to build the arena, not the other way around.

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