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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 23 22:54:39 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 23 16:42:43 2012.

You were one of the loudest ones screaming about "Bush and his oil buddies" causing the high price.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 23 22:55:34 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 23 16:50:06 2012.

We learned from the best of you on the left that it was "all the president's fault" when Bush was president, what are we supposed to think? You guys screamed about it. If it was the president's fault then, it must be now.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 23 23:05:16 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 23 22:54:39 2012.

Yep ... but you guys showed me the light, and now you're reneging on it. I'm confused now. :)

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 23 23:06:10 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 23 22:55:34 2012.

So then what I said originally is now correct? Sure you want to pursue that course with iceberg dead ahead?

Republican morals ... more flip flops than Jones Beach! :)

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 23 23:51:15 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 23 23:05:16 2012.

Nope, we learned from the best. It just "must" be all the President's fault. After all, you all claimed it.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 23 23:52:16 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 23 23:06:10 2012.

Nope....it's the hypocrisy of the left. If it was Bush's fault then, it's absolutely Obama's fault now. You guys called it. Who are we to disagree.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 23 23:53:52 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 23 23:51:15 2012.

I guess it's time for you guys to write the encyclical then ... I'll nail it to the church door for ya.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 23 23:54:39 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 23 23:52:16 2012.

But you guys said it was wrong ... now it's right? Have you ever been taught the meaning of the word, "paradox?" It's not just a shitty old database yaknow. :)

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 24 00:02:20 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by SMAZ on Thu Feb 23 19:31:28 2012.

aren't those masks because of SARS? sometimes I see Asians walking around Chinatown or in subway like that.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 24 00:04:22 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 24 00:02:20 2012.

Once maybe. Now it's for pollution.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 24 00:19:17 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 23 23:54:39 2012.

No, you guys taught us it wasn't wrong. Don't worry, we believe you, it was the President's fault before 2008, so it has to be now too. THIW.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 24 00:20:32 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 24 00:19:17 2012.

Ah well ... I can understand how high you're pinning your hopes on this one given Sanitorium's the best y'all can do. :)

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Feb 24 01:26:03 2012, in response to Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 23 13:55:15 2012.

No, they just have white guilt.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 24 01:44:23 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Feb 24 01:26:03 2012.

So what you're saying then is voting republican is a white people thing ... like skinheads ... yep ... they're righteous peeps too.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by WillD on Fri Feb 24 03:38:15 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 23 16:52:26 2012.

Obama did not destabilize the region by starting a war sold on the promise of reducing consumer oil prices and finding non-existent weapons of mass destruction.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a ^$%@ Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by Dave on Fri Feb 24 05:57:58 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a ^$%@ Job You Are Qualified For., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 23 20:57:01 2012.

Fail.

OPEC was created at the Baghdad Conference on September 10–14, 1960, by Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. Okay, technically speaking Iran is Persian, not Arab.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 24 07:02:21 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 24 00:20:32 2012.

Anything is better than Obama.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 24 07:14:09 2012, in response to Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 23 13:55:15 2012.

Hmmm. You mean Iran's saber-rattling has nothing to do with thge price of oil?

At any rate, we are in for some VERY big changes over the next several decades, as the oil starts to run out. We've already extracted abd consumed half of all the oil there is (or ever will be)--the easy half. The remaining half is either in hard-to-0reach or hostile territory, and much of that is in the form of shale and other material that has to undergo conversion to liquids, adding further steps of labor and cost to the extraction process. On top of this, we may never be able to get all of the remaining oil out of the ground, and even if we could somehow extract all 1 trillion or so barrels of the remaining oil, it would only be enough for another 30 years of consumption, at today's rates.

Our entire human civilization is totally dependent for its daily life on just one finite, irreplaceable natural resource, oil. As it runs out, the Industrial Era will end. There ARE serious upheavals coming, and our way of life (and that of societies all over the globe) are about to undergo big changes.

An Arab saying puts it very starkly: "My father rode a camel, I drive a Rolls-Royce, my son flies a jet airplane, and his son will ride a camel." Gas prices will begin a climb to the stratosphere in just a few years, as production struggles to keep up with ever-0increasing demand, and no President, now or in the future, will be able to stop or change that. Every developed country in the world will be competing for the dwindling supply of oil. The era of cheap oil is ending, and with it, our car-dependent way of life.

This has been known since at LEAST 1973, and the problem is, the end of cheap oil--indeed, the end of oil itself--was seen as being so far in the future as to be an abstraction, of no concern to people living in the here and now "because we'll be dead then". The trouble with that is, the end of cheap oil is underway NOW...

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 24 08:31:21 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 24 07:14:09 2012.

The trouble with that is, the end of cheap oil is underway NOW...

Cheap oil is gone. But medium-priced oil is not. In fact, the earth has more of it than is healthy for us to burn.

Shale oil is not so hard to extract. It's being done extremely profitably in ND even when oil prices are at the low end of the range they've been over the past few years. The main problem is water availability in the west. But they've figured out how to reuse the water to a large degree.


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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 24 08:37:54 2012, in response to Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 23 13:55:15 2012.

The same idiots who think Santorum is obsessed with banning condoms and Barry is a good...uh...uh...s.s..s.s.s.speaker.
Like a cartoon.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 24 08:42:50 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by AlM on Fri Feb 24 08:31:21 2012.

Please don't ruin JayZee's far leftist rant.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 24 08:43:15 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 24 00:19:17 2012.

Yep. "They were stupid. Now I'll show them that I can be as stupid as them."



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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 24 08:44:12 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by orange blossom special on Fri Feb 24 08:37:54 2012.

It's all the talking points they have. They can't run on the wonderful job Obama has done, so have to make up the absurd.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 24 08:51:15 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 24 08:42:50 2012.

It's just as wrong as your rightist rant about energy production going down the tubes under the Obama administration.

The fact is that energy production is currently increasing in the US and Canada and will continue to increase. You and JayZBMT just have different political reasons for denying it.




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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by Dave on Fri Feb 24 09:41:39 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 23 16:59:33 2012.

What's you're proposing is the common "wisdom" among lay persons who don't understand the nature of how commodity markets work.

Physical commodity markets like oil are zero–sum markets where
all money flows must by definition net to zero. For every long there is a short, for everyone who thinks the price is going up there is someone who thinks it is going down, and for everyone who trades with the flow of the market, there is someone trading against it.

Flows of money, no matter how large, do not necessarily affect the futures price of a commodity at a given point in time. Prices will
change if new information emerges that causes market participants to revise their estimates of physical supply and/or demand. Just because large investment have flowed into the long side of commodity futures markets at the same time that prices have risen substantially (or the reverse) does not necessarily prove anything. This is more than likely the classical statistical mistake of confusing correlation with causation. You need a test that accounts for changes in money flow and fundamentals before a conclusion can be reached about the impact of speculation.

Longer–term equilibrium prices are ultimately determined in cash markets where buying and selling of physical commodities must reflect fundamental supply and demand forces. This is precisely why all commodity futures contracts have some type of delivery or cash settlement system to tie futures and cash market prices together. Speculators ARE forced to take delivery if they haven't closed their long position by settlement date.

In your dreamland, Kevin, hedgers are benign risk–avoiders and speculators are active risk–seekers. This ignores nearly a century of academic research showing that the behavior of hedgers and speculators is actually better described as a continuum between
pure risk avoidance and pure speculation. Nearly all commercial firms labeled as "hedgers" speculate on price direction and/or relative
price movements, some frequently, others not as frequently.

Observed speculative levels in commodity futures markets since early 2006 either did not exceed the hedging needs of commercial firms or did not exceed historical norms for the level of speculation relative to hedging needs. Simply put, there is no compelling evidence that speculation was 'excessive.'



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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 10:28:44 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 23 16:58:26 2012.

I am referring to this president's blocking American production of American oil off American Shores and within American borders.

There have been 300 offshore drilling permits issued since May 2009. Ten were issued just last month.

I'm also referring to his blocking of oil from canada, coming to the US via a pipeline.

We're already getting that oil by rail.

I'm clearly referring to his deliberate actions that prevent us from becoming less dependent on middle eastern oil.

Only 10.3 percent of our oil came from the Middle East in 2011, down from 14.5 percent in 2008. For the first time since 1997, we consumed more domestic oil than imported in 2010 and 2011.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 24 10:29:52 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by dand124 on Thu Feb 23 20:02:01 2012.

Because Obama Derangment Syndrome is beyond thought.



Substitute "Obama" for "Niagara Falls" :P

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 24 10:41:19 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 10:28:44 2012.

Every time we tell either Chris, or Train Dude, or Olog, that production of natural gas or oil in the US and Canada is increasing, especially in the last 4 years, all you get is silence.

And given that the main board is about rail, they seem to totally deny the fact that oil can be transported by rail. It's cheaper to use a pipeline, but not required. They seem to think all that oil is just languishing in Alberta because there's no way to get it out of Canada.




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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 10:54:34 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 23 16:13:13 2012.

Do you really think it's a free market when the obamites are deliberately blocking domestic production of crude oil and keeping us dependent on foreign oil?

Already addressed this one.

Do you really think it's a free market when the obamites are deliberately blocking the purchasing of Canadian oil while forcing us to by from countries on the other side of the world?

We get more of our oil from Canada than any other foreign country.

Do you think it's a free market when the obamites virtually stop all off shore drilling, give massive aid to the Brazilian oil induetry and then tell them that we want to be their best customer?

Already addressed the offshore drilling. The line of credit to Brazil was approved by the U.S. Export-Import Bank before Obama had any appointees on the Bank's board. It's also a good thing, since the money is directly to purchase U.S. goods and services.

Do you really think it's a free market when the obamites force the production of exotic blends of gasoline to appease the tree huggers and cause everyone else to pay higher prices?

This is the best example of the free market - the federal ethanol subsidy expired last month. Reformulated fuel standards are a result of the 1990 Clean Air Act, 2005 Energy Policy Act, 2006 Renewable Fuel Standard Program, and 2007 Energy Independence and Security Act.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 24 11:05:19 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by AlM on Fri Feb 24 10:41:19 2012.

And given that the main board is about rail, they seem to totally deny the fact that oil can be transported by rail. It's cheaper to use a pipeline, but not required. They seem to think all that oil is just languishing in Alberta because there's no way to get it out of Canada.

It is a paradox.

your pal,
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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 11:29:48 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by SMAZ on Thu Feb 23 19:21:27 2012.

So what do you propose we do?

Tell other countries like China to stop buying oil so that global prices can drop?


Maybe massive export tariffs and/or price controls so American companies will be forced to sell domestically at a lower price.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 24 11:40:36 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 11:29:48 2012.

Export tariffs (and subsidies, for that matter) are an abomination. Occasionally they can be justified, but in general they result in a reduction in the world's standard of living, and eventually in the standard of living of the country that is putting them in palce.



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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 11:52:34 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by AlM on Fri Feb 24 10:41:19 2012.

Every time we tell either Chris, or Train Dude, or Olog, that production of natural gas or oil in the US and Canada is increasing, especially in the last 4 years, all you get is silence.

It's not them I'm trying to reach, it's those who might be listening to them :).

And given that the main board is about rail, they seem to totally deny the fact that oil can be transported by rail.

Casually railfanning in one's spare time or being employed in the industry doesn't necessarily make one believe that rail should be funded or used as a public good.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 11:54:11 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by AlM on Fri Feb 24 11:40:36 2012.

Export tariffs (and subsidies, for that matter) are an abomination.

As are price controls. Or artificially flooding the market by opening the strategic reserves. Or any other possible idea anyone can come up with to instantaneously lower gas prices :).

Oh, I forgot one - crash the economy, 2008-style!

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 24 11:59:40 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 11:54:11 2012.

Did you read today's article in USA Today about all this stuff?

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 12:07:42 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 24 11:59:40 2012.

Did you read...USA Today...

No

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 24 12:11:12 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 12:07:42 2012.

USA Today has a story about rising gas prices, and what's causing it.



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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 24 13:47:55 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 11:29:48 2012.

Maybe massive export tariffs and/or price controls so American companies will be forced to sell domestically at a lower price.




That will result in American companies taking their business elsewhere while also putting them at a disadvantage against foreign companies that import and sell here.

It would result in the shuttering of refining capacity and gasoline shortages.

Such tactics only work in countries that nationalize their oil industry while also being net exporters of crude who can then effectively subsidize their domestic consumption.

It can't work with the private sector, especially in a country that is a net importer of crude and will always remain so.

We'd also end up offshoring our refining capacity (of which we are now net exporters) and having to import refined products under such a disastrous policy.







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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 24 13:49:52 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 11:54:11 2012.

The strategic reserves are for when there is an oil shortage.

There is none.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 24 13:50:34 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 24 07:02:21 2012.

Santorum is better than Obama?

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 24 14:08:09 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 11:54:11 2012.

Oh, I forgot one - crash the economy, 2008-style!

That worked well; it cut prices in half. Oh and then they've doubled since then LOL.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 24 14:26:21 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 24 13:50:34 2012.

Hitler would be, to the Obama Deranged.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 24 14:31:37 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by Dave on Fri Feb 24 09:41:39 2012.

Thank you.

Great post.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 24 14:50:29 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 11:52:34 2012.

Oil is much more efficient traveling by pipeline than by trains. Theres a time for trains and theres a time not. I fly too instead of amtrak...i wouldnt even consider taking a train instead of plane.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 24 14:52:56 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 24 14:50:29 2012.

Of course a pipeline is more efficient but the point is that the oil can be and is being transported by rail and isn't stuck up in Canada.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 15:26:05 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 24 14:08:09 2012.

That worked well; it cut prices in half. Oh and then they've doubled since then LOL.

Bush kept gas prices low and kept us safe.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 15:29:16 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 24 14:50:29 2012.

Oil is much more efficient traveling by pipeline than by trains.

Depends what you mean by "efficient."

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 15:31:28 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 24 14:52:56 2012.

Of course a pipeline is more efficient but the point is that the oil can be and is being transported by rail and isn't stuck up in Canada.

What's funny is that before cheap oil was the 2012 Republican platform, they were insisting on the pipeline because it would create jobs. Seems to me it would cost more jobs - American jobs, at least - than it would create.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 24 15:41:17 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 15:31:28 2012.

The pipeline has to be built...jobs. has to be maintained. You statement is like adding an atm at a bank.

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Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For.

Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 24 15:43:09 2012, in response to Re: Me to Barry - Get a Fucking Job You Are Qualified For., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Feb 24 15:29:16 2012.

Lower capital expenditure. Lower cost per barrel. Lower use of additional energy. All that is true.

But the right has been claiming totally that oil from Canada can't get to the US because of a lack of pipeline capacity, and that's just a politically-based fabrication.



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