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Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Sep 14 13:49:19 2010, in response to Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 13 18:15:36 2010.

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Considering that federal stats state that Islam has the least hate crimes against it of any group, I'll save my dollar to buy something else than those newspapers.

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Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Sep 14 13:55:16 2010, in response to Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:14:08 2010.

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Thank you for this post. Thank you for admiting your ineptness and brazen stupidity. Thank you for pointing out how only reading the disproven broke NYTimes online rots your brain.

June of 2009.

Do I have to explain how to click the link also?

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Re: Dear Insensitive People....

Posted by TheCiskoKid on Tue Sep 14 14:18:37 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Sep 14 13:22:49 2010.

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Your comments are irrelavent in the context of the discussion.

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Re: Dear Insensitive People....

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Sep 14 14:35:49 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Sep 13 22:51:44 2010.

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In the post 9/11 days, Muslim leaders in the US failed to publicly condemn the attacks which they should have done. Why?

Other than Farrahkan(whom im not sure has came out about this) which leaders are you talking about?

My Father did say Wallace Muhammad on a talk show in Chicago ripped into that that big time as well as thsoe "so called muslim" countries that has these low life terrorist in their borders..

I guess he should have went to CNN or Fox or some other large netwwork.

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Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 14:57:39 2010, in response to Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Sep 14 13:47:45 2010.

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Heh, "human rights". Those ones who are hell-bent on taking your rights away throw that phrase around liberally.

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Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 14:58:18 2010, in response to Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Sep 14 13:48:38 2010.

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The EU elites would gladly have their hapless proles believe just that, now that you mention it.

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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 15:03:51 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 08:03:49 2010.

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We do things differently up here as compared to down where you are ... Balto is further. :)

Hate to break it, but what works for the surrounding world where you are (Mosques included) isn't how it is. So am *I* right? Or you? Answer: neither ...

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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 15:04:58 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 15:03:51 2010.

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Whoops ... backspaced too far ... the quote isn't how it is. should have read "isn't how it is up here."

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Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 15:10:34 2010, in response to Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 13:48:46 2010.

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Just got here.

CORDOVA is the name? Are they secret Muslims? Is it a victory church?

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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 15:16:18 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 15:03:51 2010.

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Point is, he always claims he is right with stuff like this, and "that" is how it is. It was the same thing with the cable without a box thing. You are lecturing the wrong person.

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Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 15:19:58 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 08:42:58 2010.

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"Make the pie higher!" :)

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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 15:29:57 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 11:02:14 2010.

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Of course ... that's why Olog had to give us that right wing shit. On social issues, the Catholic church is to the LEFT of UCC, yaknow?

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Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 15:38:33 2010, in response to Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Sep 14 13:55:16 2010.

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He reads the NY Daily Snooze also.

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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 15:57:32 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Sep 13 23:05:22 2010.

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Bells never went away in all the churches I attended when I was a kid and a teenager.

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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 16:20:28 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 15:16:18 2010.

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He likely ISN'T wrong though ... no bells in the Albany diocese either. As to the cable box thing, don't remember that. But if he said you don't need a cable box to watch cable, that is ALSO true ... on cable-ready sets, most cable systems still have most of their old analog channels still going strong. In fact, was over at mom-in-law's house last night and they gave her a box which she refuses to use because she has a VCR and wants to be able to record something other than she's watching. So in HER case, no cable box and she's fine ...

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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 16:31:45 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 16:20:28 2010.

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He likely ISN'T wrong though ... no bells in the Albany diocese either.

But he said "after Vatican II the bells were done away with", after I said they ring the bells. It is NOT true that the bells were done away with. If they were in some places, fine, but "Vatican II didn't do away with the bells, as they are still used.

But if he said you don't need a cable box to watch cable, that is ALSO true ... on cable-ready sets, most cable systems still have most of their old analog channels still going strong.

You have it backwards, it was HE that said that I was lying when I said that I can watch cable on TV's without boxes. He said that you HAVE to have a box. I explained that with my cable company, I didn't need a box so long as I had a cable ready TV. Of course for more features, and more channels, you need the box to (which I have on other TV's), but he said I was wrong that I am watching cable on some of my TVs without a box.....

So in HER case, no cable box and she's fine ...



As am I, on the TV's I use less, and don't need all the channels and features on...but tell that to Dan Lawrence....


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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 16:43:13 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 16:31:45 2010.

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Well ... sounds like soe of us are fighting over hairs then ... before Vatican II, every diocese had to do things ONE way. After it, options were available and apparently the bells are optional. So it wasn't a fib at all. Perhaps poorly constructed sentence as I do often, but not wrong. The option did not exist prior to Vatican II and his diocese probably changed things at that time, pinning down the date for Dan. However, up to him to explain it, not me.

As to cable ... same story. SOME systems have converted everything to digital whereas others are still "transitioning" and retain many old analog channels. By the end of next year, FCC requires that ALL analog channels die. And before you even start, FCC ruled that back in 2005 or 2006 so let's not go off on another of your Obama rants please.

If he's on an URBAN Cox or Comcast system, both went all digital last year. Many other systems in "rural areas" have until January of 2012 to do so. Thus, he's not wrong there either. Downstate New York is *NOT* the rest of "America."

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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 16:54:48 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 16:43:13 2010.

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efore Vatican II, every diocese had to do things ONE way. After it, options were available and apparently the bells are optional.

That's fine, and totally understood, but then someone shouldn't be telling me that it's not true that the bells are still used, when in fact they are. I am not making it up that the bells are still used, as was implied. It seems like you are lecturing the wrong person.

And before you even start, FCC ruled that back in 2005 or 2006 so let's not go off on another of your Obama rants please.

Obama rants? What the heck is that supposed to mean, I wasn't even against the diagonalizing of signals, so why in the world would you even imply something so childish?

Downstate New York is *NOT* the rest of "America."


My system "is" digital. You can get the basic channels without a cable box. If you want more channels, or special features, you need a box. That's fine. But then that doesn't understand that "his system" isn't "all of America's" system, then "someone" shouldn't be telling me I am "making it up" that my TV's would work without a box. AGAIN, you are lecturing the wrong person. It is "he" that is assuming his system is the only way things work....NOT me.



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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 14 18:26:13 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 15:29:57 2010.

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and Jesus was even more to left still but what the hell did Christ know about Christianity?

On social issues, the Catholic church is to the LEFT of UCC, yaknow?

Indeed. Even the TUCC people must have said "Holy Shit!"



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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 14 18:28:40 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 11:02:14 2010.

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Liberation Theology is part of Catholic doctrine. It's the main reason I remained Catholic.

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Re: Dear Insensitive People....

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 14 18:52:12 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by TheCiskoKid on Tue Sep 14 12:10:22 2010.

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Because as we all know, the density of "blocks" outside the perimeter of Pearl Harbor NS is the same as in Lower Manhattan.

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Re: Dear Insensitive People....

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 18:53:19 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 14 18:52:12 2010.

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So there's a shinto shrine .1 mile from Pearl Harbor?

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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 19:01:19 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 14 18:26:13 2010.

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NOT helping! :)

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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 19:06:43 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 14 18:26:13 2010.

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What an asshole.
I just can't stand that type of preaching.

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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 19:19:50 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 14 18:26:13 2010.

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Pfleger's to the left of everyone. The RCC is far to the right of him, especially under Ratzinger.

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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 19:26:47 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 19:06:43 2010.

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BTW, what I posted was not "right-wing shit", but an actual quote from Cone's book. Is James Cone about "right-wing shit" or far-left-wing shit? The latter, is what it seems to me, and the stinkiest.

The next sentence after the one I posted here is this:

The task of black theology is to kill gods that do not belong to the black community.
He also wrote this:

Either God is identified with the oppressed to the point that their experience becomes his, or he is a God of racism . . .

Black theology refuses to accept a God that is not identified totally with the goals of the black community . . .
Horse's mouth. Nothing made up.

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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 19:28:27 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 14 18:28:40 2010.

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Liberation Theology is part of Catholic doctrine

Liar.

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Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters....

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Sep 15 01:26:33 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 19:28:27 2010.

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Ignorant

Gutierrez also popularized the phrase "preferential option for the poor", which became a slogan of liberation theology and eventually an official doctrine of the Catholic Church.[9]



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