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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:19:58 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 10:50:56 2010. And I have said the man would be totally wrong, AND INSENSITIVE to do such a thing. A lot more than the supporters of the mosque in t he dust cloud of 911 have done. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 11:21:29 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Railman718 on Mon Sep 13 11:13:08 2010. "Oh come on we all know Islam is the religion of the devil. Even a man "of the cloth" said it. So it must be true."So what if Jesus where here and now...what would he say about all of this "mumbo jumbo-ism?" |
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Posted by BMTLines on Mon Sep 13 11:22:25 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 11:19:09 2010. because of a few "fanatical Muslims"......there are a lot more than "a few", and they are fully supported by religious leaders, high level government officials, and the general populations of several Moslem countries. 9-11 did not happen in a vacuum and it was not an isolated incident. We are being targeted. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:24:09 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Railman718 on Mon Sep 13 11:13:08 2010. And no one here except YOU people are claiming things are being said that haven't been said. NO ONE said "Islam is the religion of the devil" here, and no one said the mosque is a "church(ic) of hate". People are saying that it is an insensitive place to put such a house of worship so close due to the sensitivity of 911 to a lot of people yet, in fact the vast majority of the country....But keep making claims that weren't said, crap like that only flames the hostility more when people claim things are said when they weren't. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:25:00 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by BMTLines on Mon Sep 13 11:22:25 2010. Correct. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 11:25:47 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:18:51 2010. "I didn't bring up the KKK, a totally unrelated topic, YOU DID. The KKK has absolutely nothing to do with 911, the destruction of the WTC, downing of 4 planes, nor the killing of 3000 people on 911."So you are saying that all the killings done under the eyes of the KKK are meaningless then. Killings done under hate, the same way "fanatical Muslims" killed during 9/11. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:29:34 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by BMTLines on Mon Sep 13 11:17:22 2010. Correct. 9 years after Pearl Harbor they absolutely would have been out there protesting a Japanese heritage museum, a shrine or whatever near the harbor. And truthfully, even today it probably would still be protested near the USS Arizona. But then again, the Japanese wouldn't be so insensitive to do such a thing at Pearl Harbor. It would be about as appropriate as the United States (even though this is irrelevant to religion) decided to build an American Heritage Museum in the middle of Nagasaki.Why is it so hard for the supporters of this mosque to understand how the families feel and give people time to heal? Give it time and people will forget but NOW is not the right time to build a mosque at that location. Because unfortunately Islam (and this is even moderate Islam) doesn't have room for the tolerance of other people. Or at least that is the message that is being portrayed here by their refusal to even acknowledge this is a sensitivity issue. THAT has only made the opposition more determined and angry. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 11:30:53 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:24:09 2010. From CNN.COM:Bush was right: We're not at war with Islam By Julian E. Zelizer, Special to CNNSeptember 13, 2010 7:09 a.m. EDT Princeton, New Jersey (CNN) -- In the aftermath of 9/11, Americans were angry, fearful and scrambling for answers. In the days that followed the terrorist attacks, President George W. Bush and Congress prepared their response, starting to work on stronger counterterrorism measures and preparing for a war in Afghanistan, where the Taliban had housed al Qaeda networks for many years. A few Americans turned their rage against Muslims who were living in the United States. Within a few days, Muslims, as well as individuals mistakenly perceived to be Muslims, were attacked. The Sikh owner of a gas station in Mesa, Arizona, was killed by a man who went on to shoot a Lebanese clerk at another gas station. Near Dallas, Texas, a man shot and killed a 46-year old Pakistani who owned a small grocery store. In Cleveland, Ohio, a man drove a Ford Mustang right through an Islamic center. Nine years after 9/11, there is a lot for Americans to contemplate as they look back. Although people have focused a lot of attention on Bush's appearance before a group of New York firefighters at ground zero, another highly significant moment took place on September 17. That day, at the Islamic Center in Washington, the president delivered a powerful message about the need to keep America's response to 9/11 from turning into a war against Muslims. This message was as important to his war on terrorism as the strategy of regime change, or pre-emptive war. Unfortunately, this is a principle that has been slowly and dangerously undermined in recent weeks as a result of the controversy over a proposed Islamic cultural center and mosque a few blocks from ground zero. Speaking at an emotionally charged moment, just six days after the attacks, Bush told the audience that it was vital for Americans to understand that the terrorists did not represent the Muslim tradition. "Those who feel like they can intimidate our fellow citizens to take out their anger don't represent the best of America; they represent the worst of humankind, and they should be ashamed of that kind of behavior," Bush said. The president reiterated his firm commitment to protecting the constitutional rights and honoring the important role of the Muslim community in the United States. In no uncertain terms, Bush said: "The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war." America, he said, "counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country. Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads." Many Muslim leaders were impressed by the president's speech as well as by how most Americans were responding to the trauma. "Americans have shown great maturity," Sayyid Syeed, the secretary general of the Islamic Society of North America, told the media. He reported the calls he was receiving expressing support for his community greatly outweighed the hate crimes. Over the coming years, Bush stuck with the argument that he made on September 17. While Bush would come under criticism for many aspects of his war on terrorism -- including policies such as the use of interrogation tactics that critics called torture -- he continued to be very clear in his defense of Muslims. The president returned to the Islamic Center on June 2007, reminding his audience of his earlier speech: "We gather, with friendship and respect, to reaffirm that pledge -- and to renew our determination to stand together in the pursuit of freedom and peace. We come to express our appreciation for a faith that has enriched civilization for centuries." Bush's philosophy is now under fire. In response to the proposal to build an Islamic center near ground zero in New York City, a heated national debate has unfolded about Muslims in America. While some focused their criticism on whether this was a proper project so close to the site of the attacks, many others turned it into a different kind of discussion. Some national Republican leaders, including Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich, have made provocative comments, helping to make it a national issue. Gingrich warned of the "radical Islamists" he said were behind the project, comparing it to Nazis putting up a sign next to the Holocaust Museum in Washington. At the local level, the debate has taken an even more dangerous turn. A Florida pastor, Terry Jones, announced he would burn copies of the Quran. Even when he came under criticism from a broad spectrum of leaders, including Gen. David Petraeus, he did not at first desist. Rather than listening, he said, "Maybe it's time to send a message to radical Islam that we will not tolerate their behavior." Palin did condemn the pastor by tweeting that "book burning is antithetical to American ideals," but then tied the two issues together when she went on to say that "people have a constitutional right to burn a Koran if they want to, but doing so is insensitive and an unnecessary provocation -- much like building a mosque at ground zero." Although the pastor agreed to cancel the Quran burning after a call from Secretary of Defense Robert Gates warning it would put American lives at risk, the incident stoked the fires of hatred. If this kind of inflammatory rhetoric continues, it will erode a central and crucial principle in the war on terrorism. It also contradicts the nation's constitutional and pluralistic traditions -- the very traditions we want to defend from terrorism -- while doing irreparable harm abroad. When Bush spoke at the Islamic Center, he took a pivotal step in defining how he wanted to defend the nation and go about punishing the aggressors who killed thousands of civilians. His message cannot be forgotten. Should local and national debate move in a different direction, we will be paying the cost as a nation for decades to come by destroying our image in the Muslim world, thus playing into the hands of the terrorists. We'd be abandoning the very best ideals that our country has to offer. The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Julian E. Zelizer. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:32:11 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 11:14:43 2010. No more than Americans would say "God Bless America". That is not done IN THE NAME of religion, but instead a thought that what we are doing is right. The Muslims did it IN THE NAME of their religion.And you better believe that people would have been protesting a Japanese Shrine near Pearl Harbor in the 1950's. They probably would still today, even though the wounds between us and Japan have long since healed. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Sep 13 11:33:16 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:24:09 2010. Did I say anybody here said that? Your comprehension skills need work. Big time. Pay attention closely when I post and stop confusing me with those who do "fan the flames". |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 13 11:34:28 2010, in response to Re: Bush was right: We're not at war with Islam, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 11:30:53 2010. Many just don't accept it yet. Make no mistake: they are at war with us.When a liberal uses George Bush to make his point, it's certain that Bush was wrong. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Sep 13 11:35:15 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 11:25:47 2010. Eyes closed man eyes closed. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:35:21 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 11:25:47 2010. So you are saying that all the killings done under the eyes of the KKK are meaningless then.No not at all. That is you speaking again. I said that the killings of the KKK are meaningless IN REGARD to 911, as it's a totally unrelated topic, with not even the remotest relevance to what happened on 911. Killings done under hate, the same way "fanatical Muslims" killed during 9/11. Perhaps, but the KKK has nothing to do with 911 other than they are a group of hate. They haven't the slightest relevance to 911. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 11:35:33 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:29:34 2010. "But then again, the Japanese wouldn't be so insensitive to do such a thing at Pearl Harbor..."SO INSENSITIVE?????? eh? Is that why WE AS AMERICANS went and ROUNDED UP ALL JAPANESE no matter how many generations they were in this country, we took ALL OF THEM and took away their possessions, and then dumped them in internment camps.....was that really nice of us as Americans? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 11:36:57 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Railman718 on Mon Sep 13 11:33:16 2010. IAWTP |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:37:44 2010, in response to Re: Bush was right: We're not at war with Islam, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 11:30:53 2010. That's Great, but Bush isn't president. And to his credit, at least he knew how to keep people together under a controversy. A lot more than I could say about how our current president handles controversy. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:39:01 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Railman718 on Mon Sep 13 11:33:16 2010. YOU said this:"Oh come on we all know Islam is the religion of the devil. Even a man "of the cloth" said it. So it must be true. " That is putting words into the mouths of people that didn't say such a thing. That is fanning flames that didn't exist. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 11:41:30 2010, in response to Re: Bush was right: We're not at war with Islam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:37:44 2010. "That's Great, but Bush isn't president."If you read the opinion....you would have seen that Bush said this DURING his PRESIDENCY and a few days AFTER 9/11. But again, your comprehension is failing you again...but that's ok. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:43:16 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 11:35:33 2010. Again, you seem to forgot the point, that people would have protested a Japanese Heritage building near Pearl Harbor 9 years after the attack, and would probably still protest it today....The Japanese of today had nothing to do with Pearl Harbor either, but they understand what a sensitivity issue is. We aren't even at war with the Japanese today, and our wounds have long since healed between us. However, a Japanese heritage museum would STILL be totally inappropriate at that site, even today, and even though NONE of the Japanese living to day have the remotest responsibility to what happened in 1941 there. Unfortunately, apparently Muslims don't understand that. Most have nothing to do with the attacks either, although it's just as inappropriate as the Japanese heritage Museum would be at Pearl Harbor. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Sep 13 11:45:18 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:39:01 2010. Those words was spoken but I also used sarcasm in that post as well. I stand by My other post. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Sep 13 11:48:33 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:43:16 2010. Most god faring Muslims don't but they are all being lumped together when their faith is called "a religion of hate". |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 11:51:50 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 11:04:56 2010. So you're saying that the Mosque is automatically a hate mosque? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 12:03:55 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Railman718 on Mon Sep 13 11:48:33 2010. "Most god faring Muslims don't but they are all being lumped together when their faith is called "a religion of hate".Well put....actually.....ChrisR16 loves to lump and generalize.....he's known for that. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 12:05:43 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 11:51:50 2010. "So you're saying that the Mosque is automatically a hate mosque?"He's saying that in his "round-about-way." |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 12:09:22 2010, in response to Re: Bush was right: We're not at war with Islam, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 11:41:30 2010. Failing at what? He's right, we aren't "at war with Islam". No one is saying it can't be built. It however is an insensitive place to build such a thing.And furthermore, Bush has nothing to do with this controversy. He isn't president. I know you Bush-lovers think everything he said was Gospel, but Bush isn't president anymore. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 13 12:11:59 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SMAZ on Mon Sep 13 02:54:09 2010. Is St. Irene's the one by Taverna on Ditmars? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 12:12:45 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Railman718 on Mon Sep 13 11:45:18 2010. I know that it was "sarcasm", but it's "sarcasm" based on something that the opposition haven't said, and is just being used as a talking point to try and paint a picture of the opposition that doesn't exist. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 12:14:36 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Railman718 on Mon Sep 13 11:48:33 2010. No one is calling them the "religion of hate" except those trying to use talking points to paint a picture of those (70%+ of the US population) that oppose this mosque as something they are not. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 13 12:16:48 2010, in response to Re: Bush was right: We're not at war with Islam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 12:09:22 2010. No, we are at war with Islam. Bush was wrong. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 12:18:45 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 11:51:50 2010. No. A Japanese Heritage Museum near Pearl Harbor wouldn't automatically be a hate museum either. And none of the Japanese living today are responsible for Pearl Harbor, yet that would be a sensitivity issue too. It would be just as insensitive if we built a "American Museum" in the middle of Nagasaki too. In fact, it took until this year, 60 years later for a United States representative to even be present at the memorial services in Japan for the bombs. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 12:19:19 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 12:18:45 2010. Actually 70 years later. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Sep 13 12:19:43 2010, in response to Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 13 11:34:28 2010. "When a liberal uses George Bush to make his point, it's certain that Bush was wrong."Of all the stupid things you have said over the years, this is probably the stupidest. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 12:21:11 2010, in response to Re: Bush was right: We're not at war with Islam, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 13 12:16:48 2010. Well in any event, I don't know how these Bush-lovers move on every word he says, like what he said back then was Gospel. Bush may be streetcar's hero, since he places so much emphasis on what Bush says, but he needs to get over that his hero isn't president anymore. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 12:23:04 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by italianstallion on Mon Sep 13 12:19:43 2010. Can't explain why else Bush would be brought up here though, unless he thinks that Bush's words are Gospel. He needs to get over the fact that his hero isn't president anymore. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 13 12:24:28 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Railman718 on Mon Sep 13 11:48:33 2010. Look at the pattern. Islam is a religious minority in America, and they are responsible for the worst terrorist plot in modern US history.They usually target civilians. Office buildings. Airplanes. Subways. JFK terminal. Times Square. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Sep 13 12:25:36 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 12:23:04 2010. You completely miss the point. It's to show the right that even a right-wing President disagrees with their thesis that we are at war with Islam, and that Obama is in the mainstream of thought on this issue. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 13 12:28:05 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by italianstallion on Mon Sep 13 12:25:36 2010. Islam is at war with America. Even if most are not willing to detonate a bomb, crash into skyscrapers, etc......they are at war with what we stand for, and wish to destroy us. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Sep 13 12:29:06 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 12:14:36 2010. Yes, bigots who oppose the Mosque by calling Islam a terrorist religion - - again look at California, Tennesssee and Sheepshead Bay. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Mon Sep 13 12:30:39 2010, in response to Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 13 11:34:28 2010. "they are at war with us"Define 'they'. The average muslim? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 12:30:46 2010, in response to Re: Bush was right: We're not at war with Islam, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 13 12:16:48 2010. "No, we are at war with Islam. Bush was wrong."How can you say that after that man gave bread and water to feed you and your family? eh? lol 
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 13 12:30:57 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Sep 13 12:29:06 2010. Yeah. But it's the arab Muslims who seem to be a problem.As a Muslim, do you see Obama as a convert to Christianity. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 12:33:01 2010, in response to Re: Bush was right: We're not at war with Islam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 12:21:11 2010. "Bush may be streetcar's hero, since he places so much emphasis on what Bush says, but he needs to get over that his hero isn't president anymore."My Hero? lol....I didn't vote for the guy.....we know you did....and so did ChrisR16.....he's more of a hero to you and the rest of the GOPers out there. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Sep 13 12:34:02 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 12 22:37:50 2010. Not where I go. When Vatican II came about, the bells went away. In some Catholic churches they don't even have them stuffed in a back closet, they were either sold or scrapped.When the Mass was in Latin, very few in the pews knew what was happening on the Altar. My favorite saying is Pope John the 23rd took the Catholic faith kicking and screaming into the 20th Century. He took the Catholic faith from being a Church of rote to to a Church of Faith. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 12:35:42 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Sep 13 12:29:06 2010. "Yes, bigots who oppose the Mosque by calling Islam a terrorist religion - - again look at California, Tennesssee and Sheepshead Bay."Don't forget to mention our own ChrisR16.....he hates ALL Muslims. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 12:37:44 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 13 12:30:57 2010. "As a Muslim, do you see Obama as a convert to Christianity."Obama was never a Muslim to begin with.....and yes....he was baptized into Christianity. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 12:41:54 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 12:23:04 2010. "He needs to get over the fact that his hero isn't president anymore."He ain't no hero of mine...that's for sure.....so why are saying what you are saying? eh? are you saying he's wrong? eh? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 12:42:17 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by italianstallion on Mon Sep 13 12:25:36 2010. IAWTP |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 12:44:44 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 13 12:28:05 2010. "Islam is at war with America. Even if most are not willing to detonate a bomb, crash into skyscrapers, etc......they are at war with what we stand for, and wish to destroy us."So if that's the case.....then you advocate rounding up all Muslims in this country just as we did unto the Japanese and put them into internment camps. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 13 12:46:09 2010, in response to Re: Bush was right: We're not at war with Islam, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 12:33:01 2010. Stop, we all see your man-crush on Bush. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Sep 13 12:47:38 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 13 12:30:57 2010. He is a strange character. Hussein is Sunni Muslim (IINM) so how could he carry a Muslim name and be a Christian? |
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