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Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Sep 13 18:42:19 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 13 13:19:50 2010. "Islam" does not equal "alQaeda." The latter declared war on us. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Sep 13 18:42:48 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by SMAZ on Mon Sep 13 17:10:21 2010. Good post. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Mon Sep 13 19:04:04 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by SMAZ on Mon Sep 13 18:41:24 2010. And in the short period of 25 years, the despised religion of Shinto has become domesticated; it is just another sect listed in the Yellow Pages of Hawaii’s telephone books.TWENTY FIVE YEARS! Note that 10 have not even passed since 9-11 Also our victory over Japan was decisive and complete. After 1945 there were no further attacks by the Japanese against the US. Japan itself went through a cultural and political transformation and is a very different country today than it was in 1941. There are no Japanese terrorists or guerrillas attacking the United States OTOH we are still at war with Islamic terrorists, their sympathizers and apologists |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 21:13:21 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by SMAZ on Mon Sep 13 18:41:24 2010. "If they'd bother to do some fact checking" ??????Sounds more like bull chucking from a leftist website. Not that they say that Shinto Shrines are within 2 blocks of the USS Arizona but some in Hawaii with a few "NEAR" the Arizona. Could Near be like Times Square is to ground zero? Sounds like ole smaz is taking a page out of the wacko-selkirk playbook. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 21:15:22 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by SMAZ on Mon Sep 13 17:34:12 2010. Not hardly. Shinto was their religion. They were willing to die for their emperor. It is not the same no matter how you spin it. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Sep 13 22:51:44 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Railman718 on Mon Sep 13 14:19:20 2010. You left out "in the United States". That would have kept the Chat No-Nothings with nothing to comment in their reply.In the post 9/11 days, Muslim leaders in the US failed to publicly condemn the attacks which they should have done. Why? |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Sep 13 23:05:22 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SMAZ on Mon Sep 13 17:54:32 2010. Not in my church, St. Dominic in Hamilton in NE Baltimore. The bells went away in the late 1960's. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 23:09:32 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 21:13:21 2010. Yeah . . . he thinks he's a comedian of late. If you can't impress them with facts, bore them with bullshit, is their motto. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 14 01:17:02 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 21:13:21 2010. Not that they say that Shinto Shrines are within 2 blocks of the USS Arizona but some in Hawaii with a few "NEAR" the Arizona.Could that just be because the Arizona is on a big Navy base and not in an area of just a few acres? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 14 01:22:01 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 21:15:22 2010. One of the central tenets of Shinto is Japan exceptionalism. The Emperor was God on Earth. It's one of the reasons why Shinto never caught on outside Japan. It's a completely nationalistic belief system.Separating Shinto from the Japanese State is impossible by definition. It's like separating Christianity from Christ or Islam from Muhammad. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 14 01:23:30 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Sep 13 23:05:22 2010. That's weird. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 14 02:04:31 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SMAZ on Mon Sep 13 17:51:09 2010. oh. I know that church. There was a time when I walked by there every day of my life. I lived on 23rd and 41st St. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 03:43:39 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by SMAZ on Mon Sep 13 18:41:24 2010. Established in 1920? LOL. 5 miles away? LOL.Case closed. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 03:45:05 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Sep 13 22:51:44 2010. That's one of the huge problems with how people feel. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 03:48:51 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Sep 13 23:05:22 2010. That's extremely odd. Every Catholic church I have ever been to did the bells, and my whole life.And in any event, you said "when Vatican II came", implying this was widespread, which it wasn't. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 14 03:50:27 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 03:43:39 2010. The naval base is probably at least 5 mile across by itself. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 04:13:03 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 03:48:51 2010. Each Archdisocese largely sets their own rules ... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 08:03:49 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 04:13:03 2010. Probably, but once again he is claiming what people are saying is not so, when in fact it is. |
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Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 08:11:29 2010, in response to Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 13 18:15:36 2010. And they fail to link to the opposite stories, such as this church that opened it's sanctuary to a Muslim group to pray in while their mosque across the street is being built:http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/30/cordova-christians-open-their-doors-to-builders-of-memphis-mosque/ |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 08:12:17 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SMAZ on Mon Sep 13 17:58:35 2010. Heh. I bet they are still wearing the same hippie clothes today.... |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:12:32 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Sep 13 22:51:44 2010. "In the post 9/11 days, Muslim leaders in the US failed to publicly condemn the attacks which they should have done. Why?"Fear of retaliation and condemnation from within..... |
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Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:14:08 2010, in response to Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Sep 13 18:03:32 2010. "Like Obama says, we are the worlds largest muslim nation."When did he say this? proff! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 08:14:13 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:12:32 2010. And there lies a huge problem. Why would "the religion of peace" retaliate or condemn Muslim leaders for condemning the terror attacks? Because they shouldn't be condemning something they agree with? Your statement just reiterates what those opposed to this mosque are led to believe by Muslim leadership. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:18:50 2010, in response to Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 18:05:13 2010. "But it's funny that this kind of reaction is bad in the USA, while when it happens in Europe, it's not even talked about."So what you're saying is that human rights shouldn't be discussed at all then...oh....why equate what we do here in America vs. Europe? I know you think of Europe as one big "country," but we do things differently here in America. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Tue Sep 14 08:19:09 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Sep 13 16:34:53 2010. This is sad. Dude, he's goofing you. You really are not too, umm...old, are you? Fourteen? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:21:34 2010, in response to Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 13 18:15:36 2010. "............ considering such a widespread hatred is justifiable."Do you find Kristallnacht justifiable then? eh? seems so with your logic. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 08:33:28 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by ntrainride on Tue Sep 14 08:19:09 2010. :) |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:39:03 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by ntrainride on Tue Sep 14 08:19:09 2010. "This is sad. Dude, he's goofing you. You really are not too, umm...old, are you? Fourteen? "Goofing? if you're implying that GP38 is an idiot....then that's your take on it. The fact that GP38 is now is insistant on pushing some false idea that about some idiolization of G. Bush is absurd. If he wants to play a game.....then he the fourteen year-old that you're referring to now....and not me........ |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:40:06 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 16:37:39 2010. "Don't worry guy, the first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem."The only problem here is your stupidity..... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 08:41:49 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:39:03 2010. It's okay. The first step to admitting your idoling or loving of Bush's every word is admitting it. There is help. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 08:42:58 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:40:06 2010. What are we to think when you post Bush's words as Gospel. We know you think very highly of his opinion, otherwise you wouldn't have used one of his quotes. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Sep 14 09:22:51 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 14 04:13:03 2010. Apparently you posted your reply with out reading SelkirkTMO's post, so here it is again: "Each Archdiocese largely sets their own rules ...I live in Baltimore. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 09:28:01 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:39:03 2010. So you're 14 and can't legally drive a Subaru Legacy? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 09:46:27 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Sep 12 21:42:04 2010. Obama's church was not a Christian one; they were into "Liberation Theology". Their big guru is a lunatic called James Cone, who once wrote blasphemy like this:Talk about a true antichrist. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 09:49:42 2010, in response to Re: Bush was wrong: We ARE at war with Islam, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 13 13:44:33 2010. And still misinterprets it.This guy makes it up out of his head, though. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Sep 14 10:02:59 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:12:32 2010. Fear of retaliation and condemnation from within.....Which means their congregations supported the attacks? If that is what you mean then you just confirmed our worst fears! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 10:04:45 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:12:32 2010. Oh? So you're confirming everything that's being said about radical Islam? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 11:02:14 2010, in response to Re: Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 09:46:27 2010. Yes, "Liberation Theology" doesn't really sound like a church group. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 11:05:35 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by BMTLines on Tue Sep 14 10:02:59 2010. Yes, if what he said is true certainly isn't good, and just confirms what people have already thought....that by not condemning the attacks, they supported them. And if they are afraid of "retaliation" from within the Muslim community if they did condemn the attacks, that's even worse. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 11:06:54 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 10:04:45 2010. Apparently. And worse...he confirmed that Muslim leaders are afraid to condemn the attacks because of retaliation from within the Muslim community..... What? The "Religion of Peace" would retaliate against their own who speak out against the fanatics? not good. |
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Posted by TheCiskoKid on Tue Sep 14 11:46:33 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 11:06:54 2010. There are parents who live in fear of their grown children killing them. |
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Posted by TheCiskoKid on Tue Sep 14 12:10:22 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 14 03:50:27 2010. It seems that you are trying to fog the issue through the use of, to put it gently, less that accurate statements. The fact is that from the outermoast perimeter of Pearl Harbor (The military base) there is not one Shinto temple within 4 blocks. In fact, I never measured it but I don't recall there being one within one mile when I was there. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 12:17:40 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by TheCiskoKid on Tue Sep 14 11:46:33 2010. LOL, "okay", that doesn't make Muslims sound any better either. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 12:22:29 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by TheCiskoKid on Tue Sep 14 12:10:22 2010. Yes, he is trying to fog the issue, and they are very less than accurate statements. Any "shinto" shrine is in Honolulu, not close to Pearl Harbor. And then the funniest thing is he brings up one that was built in the 1920's! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Sep 14 13:22:04 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 12:22:29 2010. Difference: The government already owned the property near Pearl Harbor - making Pearl Harbor's example irrelevant. In addition, the war memorial was created from then-current military property.Here, the 9/11 families will have their war memorial already---the pools south of the Freedom Tower. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Sep 14 13:22:49 2010, in response to Re: Dear Insensitive People...., posted by TheCiskoKid on Tue Sep 14 12:10:22 2010. If someone wanted to build one though, and the families then objected, however, as now, they should have been told to suck it up. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Sep 14 13:46:43 2010, in response to Dear Anti-Mosque and Islam haters...., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Sep 11 10:41:31 2010. Now we know why the steel melted when the tower should've stayed up |
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Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Sep 14 13:47:45 2010, in response to Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:18:50 2010. 'human rights'hard to read for the point after that tag |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Sep 14 13:48:38 2010, in response to Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Sep 14 08:21:34 2010. I didn't realize the jews were running around Europe slitting people throats in the middle of every night |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 13:48:46 2010, in response to Re: Rural Controversy: A Mosque in Sheboygan, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 14 08:11:29 2010. Yup, of course no response.... |
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