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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 25 20:29:32 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 25 20:16:58 2010. An example of bad LI pizza is "Borrelli's" by the Nassau Coliseum.Exactly! That's the kind of stuff they try and pass off as "NY Pizza" in places like California. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Jan 25 20:30:44 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 25 20:29:32 2010. Yeah, and it tastes like crap in places like California. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 25 20:32:09 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 25 20:16:58 2010. You were right about the "Amish" in Sarasota, they are really Mennonites.That's what I figured. Mennonites are pretty Orthodox in religion, but unlike the Amish, they can drive cars, use electricity, machinery, etc, which is taboo for Amish. They don't drink either. Maasbach's Restaurant, over by the Fresh Pond Rd station in Ridgewood by 68th Ave used to be run by Mennonites. They didn't serve alcohol in there. The food was sort of like a diner would be. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 25 20:35:21 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Jan 25 20:30:44 2010. EXACTLY. That is what Easy doesn't seem to understand. He eats that crap in California called "NY Pizza" (which I wouldn't even touch), and then says he hates "NY Pizza". |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jan 25 21:31:01 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 25 20:35:21 2010. Actually I've never had any pizza in California that called itself "NY Pizza" or anything similar that I can recall. I have seen many of them around, but I don't eat there because I never liked the NY pizza that I ate in NY. And I really don't understand why this rule seemingly applies only to pizza, but there's lots I don't understand so I can live with it. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 25 21:31:46 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 25 20:29:32 2010. "NY Pizza" has come to mean, "Pizza by the slice" in some parts of the country. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 25 21:50:48 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Mon Jan 25 21:31:01 2010. Just because it's "thin crust pizza" doesn't mean it tastes like "NY Pizza".... All Thin crust pizza is Neopolitan pizza, of which NY is one type. Pizza Hut, Dominos, etc is also Neopolitan pizza. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 25 21:52:35 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 25 21:31:46 2010. What's really odd, that we are so used to "pizza by the slice", but there are some places that don't have that, which I am not used to. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jan 25 21:55:48 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 25 21:50:48 2010. Just because it's "thin crust pizza" doesn't mean it tastes like "NY Pizza"..Obviously not all NY style pizza outside of NY will be as good as NY, but I don't follow the reasoning on why none of them could potentially be as good as NY. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 25 23:39:02 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 25 18:12:19 2010. I have had excellent Indonesian food in Amsterdam too. There is NOTHING that I have found like it anywhere here.AWESOME! I thought I was the only one with Amsterdam-originated Indonesian cravings and the dearth of offerings of it in America. They should give special visas to Indonesian people who promise to start quality restaurants in the US. Obama spent some of his childhood in Indonesia. He would know. I think I'm gonna lobby for it. That's the kind of immigration reform that I can believe in. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 25 23:42:49 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jan 24 21:27:29 2010. McDonald's is spending millions to remodel locations to give them more of a "chain sit down" feel.When I was a kid, BK had a sit-down table service menu for a while; it didn't work out. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jan 25 23:45:23 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 25 23:42:49 2010. I never even heard of that. Were you a kid in the USA? |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 25 23:46:51 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Mon Jan 25 23:45:23 2010. I never even heard of that. Were you a kid in the USA?Queens is a part of the US, right? :) |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 25 23:48:29 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Mon Jan 25 23:45:23 2010. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jan 25 23:50:15 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 25 23:46:51 2010. I say yes, but it's debatable in some areas of the country. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jan 25 23:57:35 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 25 23:48:29 2010. Oh is that what you meant? I thought that you meant that they would take your order at the table. Carl's Jr does that out here. You get a number to set at the edge of your table and they bring your food. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jan 26 01:05:10 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Mon Jan 25 23:57:35 2010. Yeah, that video instantly reminded me of Carl's Jr. El Pollo Loco does the same thing. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jan 26 01:06:02 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Mon Jan 25 19:18:34 2010. I can't understand it because it doesn't make any sense. How can restaurants make Ethiopian food of all things that is decent in DC, NYC, and LA but they only place in the world capable of making Chicago style pizza is Chicago? The same goes for NY pizza.An Ethiopian immigrant wanting to open a restaurant will do so whether he landed in NY or in Chattanooga and all things being equal, the quality will be the same. OTOH, somebody who hasn't operated a pizzeria in NY will have no clue how to make good NY-style pizza. We may think that the Ethiopian food that we eat is good but only an actual Ethiopian will know the truth just like only an actual New Yorker will know if some "NY-style" pizza in LA or elsewhere is good. I know what is good or bad NY pizza or Italian food because I've lived in those places and know how the real stuff is supposed to taste like. However what I may think is excellent Ethiopian food might make an actual Ethiopian throw up. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jan 26 01:18:31 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jan 26 01:06:02 2010. But as I've already said, ex-NYC pizzeria owners have opened pizzerias all over the country. Chris maintains that those still aren't the same as NY pizza.And unlike pizza, I don't think that I've ever seen an Ethiopian restaurant that wasn't owned by an Ethiopian. They probably have some that don't serve authentic food, but I've never seen one. Some are better than others, but they are all authentic Ethiopian food. On that same note, strangely the closest soul food restaurant to me along with one of the next closest are both owned by Mexicans. It makes sense though since the cooks at nearly every restaurant in LA are Mexican (or other Hispanic) no matter what type of food they serve. A guy that I used to work with would argue whether that was because Mexicans are great cooks (him) or whether they worked for cheap (me). Maybe a little of both. ;) |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jan 26 01:19:54 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jan 26 01:05:10 2010. Hmmm. I don't think that I've ever eaten inside an El Pollo Loco to know. I rarely eat inside of fast food restaurants. I find them to be cold (literally), dirty, and not where I would want to spend much time. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 26 01:29:38 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Tue Jan 26 01:18:31 2010. But as I've already said, ex-NYC pizzeria owners have opened pizzerias all over the country.Like Vinny's in Fredericksburg, Va. I've eaten there many times while traveling. Vinny is from Brooklyn. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jan 26 01:31:52 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Jan 25 20:07:25 2010. Detroit is a big pizza place with Little Caesars, Hungry Howie's, and Domino's all headquartered in the metro area.
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 26 01:34:07 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jan 26 01:31:52 2010. ewwwwwwwwww. that's gross.hey, Spider-Pig broke out the WTF cat. Guess who drove him to do it? |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jan 26 01:36:22 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 26 01:34:07 2010. journal square? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 26 01:38:41 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Tue Jan 26 01:36:22 2010. no. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 26 01:59:47 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Tue Jan 26 01:36:22 2010. It was AMoreira. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jan 26 02:04:24 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 26 01:59:47 2010. haha!The WTF-Cat made an appearance a couple of days ago here I missed Spider-Pig's post. Do you have a link? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 26 02:07:30 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jan 26 02:04:24 2010. Oh shit. I think I messed up. It was you who brought out the WTF-Cat. For some reason I thought of Spider-Pig, who posted the photo of the MMA school. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 26 02:09:10 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 26 02:07:30 2010. Or tried to at least.At least my attempt at direct iPhone photo posting worked with the Coney Island thread on SubChat. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 06:43:14 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Tue Jan 26 01:19:54 2010. I agree. I actually usually eat in the car, or take it home. Ironically, while I think McDonald's food doesn't hold a prayer to most of the other fast food restaurants like Carls, jacks, BK, etc, McDonald's restaurants ARE the cleanest and most well kept, in general.Carls are particularly dirty, as are White Castle, Jack in the Box, BK, and most of them. McDOnald's IS the cleanest, Wendy's probably second. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 06:44:47 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 25 23:48:29 2010. I remember that! I remember when Dan Cortes was doing the commercials for BK too. That was probably around 1992 or so. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 06:45:23 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 06:44:47 2010. Actually, I think that may have been 1990, come to think of it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 06:54:45 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Tue Jan 26 01:18:31 2010. But as I've already said, ex-NYC pizzeria owners have opened pizzerias all over the country. Chris maintains that those still aren't the same as NY pizza.IT's not that easy to even find good pizza IN NY, especially on Long Island, and outside the city. Many Long Island and NYC locations aren't even that great. On that same note, strangely the closest soul food restaurant to me along with one of the next closest are both owned by Mexicans. It makes sense though since the cooks at nearly every restaurant in LA are Mexican (or other Hispanic) no matter what type of food they serve. Many restaurants in the NY Metro area are run by Greeks. We don't have the "Mexicans working everywhere" sort of phenomena that you have in LA. For example, I noticed that most fast food workers in LA are Mexican adults. Most of NY's fast food restaurants are teenager workers. Speaking of "Mexicans" working in evry restaurants, we have a funny phenomena in Brooklyn and Queens, and that is "Chinese Mexican Restaurants"....they turned up about 10 years ago, and the restaurant looks like your typical Chinese take out when you walk in, is run by Chinese, and the Menu even looks like your typical Chinese Menu, but is "MExican". "34. Chicken with black bean (no S on the end) 35. Chicken with jack cheese 36. Chicken with jack cheese and guacamole" And so forth. http://freshtaco.com/menu_ridgewood.html |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 06:56:45 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jan 26 01:31:52 2010. Little Caesars, Hungry Howie's, and Domino's all headquartered in the metro area.Haha, yeah, all those chains are horrible. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 07:01:04 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jan 26 01:06:02 2010. Exactly correct. I can't explain it, but that is exactly what I am saying too. Again, there are many BAD pizza places in the NY area too, and that is something that Easy doesn't seem to get. He thinks that "if it looks like NY pizza", it is "NY pizza", and it's something that is hard to explain. Counterfeit NY Pizza has absolutely no taste, and is tomato sauce on bad thin crust with the wrong cheese. We have many of those on Long Island, and there are even many within the city, and that crap is what I have had outside of NY too, in places such as LA. The best LA pizza (trying to look like NY pizza) was about as good as mediocre Long Island pizza. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 07:33:01 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Mon Jan 25 14:27:17 2010. For example there are probably good Cuban restaurants in NYC, but my guess is that the best in the US are in Miami.That is correct, but I don't think that was ever a claim. I don't even think we have many Cuban Restaurants. Certainly not to say 'NY has great Cuban food". Probably the last thing I would think of as "NY food". |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jan 26 07:57:40 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Mon Jan 25 18:59:25 2010. You must not have looked. They have Chicago deep dish pizza everywhere. The best deep dish pizza - and the best pizza in general - that I ever had was at Pizza Papalis in Detroit.You're right; I've never been to Detroit. I didn't say it doesn't exist, just that I haven't found it. Nancy's Pizza, which has been rated the best (I've never tried it), has two outlets in Atlanta, but they've received negative reviews online from Chicagoans. I'm surprised Lou Malnati's hasn't opened an outlet in Las Vegas. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jan 26 07:58:50 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Mon Jan 25 18:54:29 2010. Why would it be that you can find quality restaurants for all of these different ethnic foods all over the country, except for pizza which can for some reason only be made in good quality in the city where it originated?The secret ingredient is the water :) |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jan 26 08:04:47 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 06:54:45 2010. Speaking of "Mexicans" working in evry restaurants, we have a funny phenomena in Brooklyn and Queens, and that is "Chinese Mexican Restaurants"....they turned up about 10 years ago, and the restaurant looks like your typical Chinese take out when you walk in, is run by Chinese, and the Menu even looks like your typical Chinese Menu, but is "MExican".They've been around longer than that. The best eggplant in garlic sauce I've ever had was from the long-gone Empire Mexican on St. Mark's Place, but I think they closed around 1997. Another place I frequented was Manna's Soul Food on Broadway near Flushing Avenue, also Chinese owned. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jan 26 08:41:00 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jan 26 07:57:40 2010. I've found Chicagoans to be similar to NY'ers in that they insist that good Chicago deep dish pizza can only be found in the Chicago area. There must be some home-cooking factor that causes additional endorphins to be released making food taste better when eaten in your home city. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jan 26 08:48:31 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Tue Jan 26 08:41:00 2010. I've found Chicagoans to be similar to NY'ers in that they insist that good Chicago deep dish pizza can only be found in the Chicago area.The criticisms against the Atlanta Nancy's included vegetables that were still frozen and plasticky cheese, so I think it goes beyond location. "Chicago style" pizza I've had in Providence has way too much baking soda in the crust and it tastes like a bowl-shaped animal cracker. And then there's "Uno Chicago Grill"... :( I don't doubt that there's good Chicago pizza in Detroit. There probably is in Cleveland and Toledo, too. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 09:46:16 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Tue Jan 26 08:41:00 2010. Chicago's situation is VERY similar to NY. People call it "Chicago Pizza" just because it's "deep dish" pizza in a Chicago style. But it's not, and while it may be "good", it's NOT the same thing.It's the same with NY pizza. I am not saying that there isn't good "Neopolitan" pizza (which is what NY pizza is a style of) outside of NY, it just isn't the same as good "NY Pizza". As I said, there is plenty inferior pizza IN the NY area itself. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jan 26 10:24:07 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jan 26 08:48:31 2010. Of course there is certainly bad Chicago pizza out there. Maybe more bad than good. But there are some foods that some locals will swear you can only get the good stuff where it's known. NY and Chicago pizza, Philly cheesesteak, maybe Buffalo wings. I haven't checked, but I would guess that many of the bad Yelp reviews for Chicago pizza in other parts of the country - including Detroit, Toledo and Cleveland - are written by people from Chicago saying that it's not authentic or as good as home. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 10:46:38 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Tue Jan 26 10:24:07 2010. NY and Chicago pizza, Philly cheesesteak, maybe Buffalo wings.NY and Chicago pizza, correct. Philly cheesesteak, correct. Buffalo Wings, not so much....that is pretty common everywhere. That is not to say you can't get a good Philly cheesesteak or NY pizza or deep dish pizza outside of NY or Chicago, but most of the time, it doesn't come close to the real thing. You can add Cajun/Creole cooking from New Orleans too, and Cuban sandwiches from Miami. I have tried it elsewhere, but it never comes close. There are also various styles of BBQ that usually you can't get outside of those areas of the midwest too. Memphis for example has a style of BBQing that you can only get there. Others may try and copy, but it never comes close. There are other styles of BBQ too that are tried to be copied elsewhere from other locations too. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jan 26 11:06:04 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 06:45:23 2010. Googling leads me to 1993. I don't remember myself, exactly, that seems right to me, at least moreso than 1990. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jan 26 11:06:45 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jan 26 11:06:04 2010. 1993 that this table service promotion started, I meant. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 11:22:44 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jan 26 11:06:04 2010. Could be, that's why I said originally 1992, but then thinking back, Dan Cortese was doing the BK commercials as early as 1990 or earlier, so it made me think it could have been earlier. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 26 11:45:20 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 06:54:45 2010. we have a funny phenomena in Brooklyn and Queens, and that is "Chinese Mexican Restaurants"And what other phenomena? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 26 13:15:01 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 26 11:45:20 2010. Hey, it's no different than ordering a "burrito with black bean". I am also partial to Chinese chicken with string bean. Usually they give me more than one bean though, regardless of what the menu says.... :) |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jan 26 15:27:40 2010, in response to Re: Burger King Adding Beer To Menu This Year, posted by Easy on Tue Jan 26 10:24:07 2010. Of course there is certainly bad Chicago pizza out there. Maybe more bad than good.There's even more bad Chicago pizza in Chicago than there is good. There are really only a handful of places that make good deep-dish pizza, and almost all of them that aren't Pizzeria Uno were started by people who used to work at Pizzeria Uno. But there are some foods that some locals will swear you can only get the good stuff where it's known. NY and Chicago pizza, Philly cheesesteak, maybe Buffalo wings. With the exception of seafood or produce, it can't be true because people move around. It might be harder to find, but it can be found somewhere. Missouri frozen custard in Las Vegas (heck, almost anything in Las Vegas) for example. I haven't checked, but I would guess that many of the bad Yelp reviews for Chicago pizza in other parts of the country - including Detroit, Toledo and Cleveland - are written by people from Chicago saying that it's not authentic or as good as home. I was using those cities as examples because they're rust belt cities where the culture is similar to Chicago and there are probably a fair number ex-Chicagoans around. The only online reviews I read by Chicagoans were some other random non-Yelp sites, and they specifically cited things that were wrong with the food itself (fake cheese, still-frozen toppings) and not authenticity problems. |
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