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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Jun 30 10:32:50 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jun 30 08:59:22 2020. What's the rate of people killing police in the US versus other countries?It's 4.96/100K. That's equivalent to 496/10M. The figure for police killings is 33.5. This means an innocent civilian is only 14.8 times more likely to be killed by a civilian than by a cop. Many people regard this as an unacceptably low ratio. The ratio is 240:1 in the UK. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 10:36:53 2020, in response to Re: JayzeeBMT, the most hateful ''person'' on subchat, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jun 30 10:29:06 2020. I asked you to produce just one link to support your claims, and apparently, you can't do it. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jun 30 10:59:12 2020, in response to Re: JayzeeBMT, the most hateful ''person'' on subchat, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 10:36:53 2020. Go back to claiming covid-19 is a flu you hateful tool. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 30 11:00:43 2020, in response to JayzeeBMT, the most hateful "person" on subchat, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jun 30 10:04:11 2020. I totally agree. He's racist, He's anti-Semitic and he's a heterophobe. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 30 11:05:04 2020, in response to Re: JayzeeBMT, the most hateful ''person'' on subchat, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jun 30 10:21:17 2020. No! Edward is a buffoon. Probably likeable enough in real life but comes here to relieve aggression. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 11:13:03 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Defunding, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 10:09:32 2020. Still waiting. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jun 30 11:13:34 2020, in response to Re: JayzeeBMT, the most hateful ''person'' on subchat, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 30 11:05:04 2020. I think his posts are more for reaction. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 11:13:53 2020, in response to Re: JayzeeBMT, the most hateful ''person'' on subchat, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jun 30 10:59:12 2020. You couldn't produce a link to support that lie, either. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 11:16:33 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 29 18:48:44 2020. Think about this: How many people have been arrested and put in jail just because everyone assumes the police version of events is always the truth?Bystander and body cam video is beginning to change that. The police can't lie to justify their actions anymore. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 30 11:22:10 2020, in response to Re: JayzeeBMT, the most hateful ''person'' on subchat, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jun 30 11:13:34 2020. Quite possibly, I do notice that when he gets some hard responses, he does leave for a few days |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jun 30 11:36:05 2020, in response to Re: JayzeeBMT, the most hateful ''person'' on subchat, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 30 11:22:10 2020. Edwards? I assume someone out there actually hired him so he's get busy working or rioting or whatever his hobbies could be.Jayzee when he vanishes for a day? That's so that he can ignore certain hard-hitting threads and then ask for links the very next day. When you finally give a link, he'll vanish again for a day. He should have the handle of Easy instead. Maybe they can switch. It's more fitting. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 30 11:39:06 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 30 00:56:42 2020. You are delusional |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 30 11:40:03 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 30 00:56:42 2020. I was in the NYPD and I didn't know about Dowd so go fuck yourself. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 30 11:40:57 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 30 02:07:47 2020. Fuck you and die |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 30 11:45:36 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 30 11:40:57 2020. You forgot to call him "#37". |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jun 30 11:51:21 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:02:36 2020. "Things got bad because of structural racism,"Says the guy who ignores the anti-police protest where they yelled "dirty jews". |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 30 11:55:50 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:02:36 2020. Things got bad because of structural racismStop repeating the same tired old lie. How come a "Black" man in the White House for eight years (how did he get there if the entire system is racist, eh?) could do nothing about it? Nope; you can't answer that except to come up with more lies. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 30 11:57:45 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 04:08:38 2020. Cherrypicking |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 30 12:00:52 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 04:08:38 2020. Did you see the story about the black guy who shot 2 cops and was brought in unharmed?Meanwhile, black men are going to the store and not getting killed by police. I can cherry pick too.
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 12:03:40 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 30 11:55:50 2020. Birtherism, deliberate GOP obstruction of his administration, and countless smear attempts against Obama and his family notwithstanding...of course... |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 12:04:18 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 30 11:57:45 2020. No, it's true. It happens ALL the time. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 30 12:14:25 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 12:04:18 2020. did you hear the one about the mouthy little LBTGQEIEIO protester who had his teeth knocked out? |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jun 30 15:01:40 2020, in response to Re: JayzeeBMT, the most hateful ''person'' on subchat, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jun 30 11:36:05 2020. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 30 15:06:21 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 11:16:33 2020. I agree. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 15:44:58 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 04:08:38 2020. Yes, because the police saw the race of the guy and it's against their patrol guide to kill white people. I've seen it myself in writing. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 16:02:42 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 15:44:58 2020. You do know a cop down South was actually caught on video saying "we only kill Black people" to a white motorist he pulled over...There IS a disparity in the way the police treat whites vs. Blacks, and this is the core of the whole issue. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:08:25 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 06:55:56 2020. What's a retaliation arrest? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:08:56 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 30 06:09:40 2020. No such thing. You get arrested for breaking the law. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:10:32 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 12:03:40 2020. Which NONE of them have nothing to do with his race. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:12:06 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jun 30 06:52:46 2020. *I* know the answer..... |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:13:59 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Jun 30 07:51:04 2020. I love how they leave the 800-pound gorilla in the room out of this. They failed to mention that 99% of these people are killed during the commission of a crime, where is the police had no other option, or at least felt like there was no other option, then to use their firearms or other means against them. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:30:13 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 10:11:50 2020. If it's unwarranted, yes. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 16:31:16 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:08:25 2020. When you get arrested for a vague, catch-all charge in retaliation for pissing a cop off, e.g., by recording them making a dubious arrest, or using excessive force.But you know this. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 16:33:33 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:13:59 2020. What "crimes" were Breonna Taylor, Botham Jean, or Amadou Diallo engaged in at the time of their deaths? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:35:16 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 16:31:16 2020. I know that there is no such thing as a retaliatory arrest. There are arrests, however, for observing people breaking the law right in front of you. Remember, ignorance of the law is no excuse! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:35:56 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 30 11:40:03 2020. Exactly. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:41:43 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 16:02:42 2020. Yes I remember that. And obviously you cannot read or decipher sarcasm. Are you sure you grew up here in New York City? You really can't tell sarcasm when you hear it? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:46:25 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 16:33:33 2020. That Breonna chick was killed because her boo was shooting at the police as they entered the room. The police had no other choice than to fire back at the threat. But you know this already. I already told you that Mr Jean was killed because he was banging her and it went South. But yes, let's bring that up again so you can try to argue with me. And, if we must further elaborate, she was off duty, so calling her a cop would make as much sense as calling her a locksmith when something happened in her own apartment. Amadou Diallo was an unfortunate incident. He legitimately got killed by mistake. Although, there was a joke that was going around amongst local and federal law enforcement at the time. Knock knock? Who's there? Amadou. Amadou who? Amadou what the police tell me to do next time, and put my hands over my head! |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 17:15:52 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:35:16 2020. Horse puckey. I know for a fact there ARE retaliatory arrests. Charges like "obstructing government administration" and/or "disorderly conduct" are tailor-made for just such needs. I've seen to his play out myself, with a CNN commentator I know who has been openly critical of the police on the air.He was filming the protesters going down the West Side Highway, and several cops walked past him, turned around, came back, and arrested him for "failure to obey", even though he was wearing his credentials. Took him a full 36 hours to get out. Still has to go see the judge. The same thing happened to a CNN crew in Minneapolis, except the cops didn't know the camera was live, and the whole country saw it happen. CNN Legal was fuming about that. The cops locked up the on-camera journalist, the cameraman, AND the producer, unprovoked. Remember, the entire incident went out LIVE. (PS, a white CNN crew half a block away wasn't even bothered by the police.) Retaliatory arrests occur all the time. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 17:21:30 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:46:25 2020. 1. Breonna was sound asleep in her bed when she gets as shot right times, and get boyfriend was ruled to be legitimately defending himself when he let that one shit go. The perp they were looking for was already in custody, ten miles away, when this happened.I can't understand why you still persist in saying Guyger and Jean were having a relationship or affair. Don't you think that would have been brought to look guy by now? If Guyger was a spurned lover, that would have been favorable to her, because it would then be a crime of passion, which would have likely gotten her some leniency at sentencing. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 17:22:09 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:46:25 2020. 1. Breonna was sound asleep in her bed when she gets as shot right times, and get boyfriend was ruled to be legitimately defending himself when he let that one shit go. The perp they were looking for was already in custody, ten miles away, when this happened.I can't understand why you still persist in saying Guyger and Jean were having a relationship or affair. Don't you think that would have been brought to light by now? If Guyger was a spurned lover, that would have been favorable to her, because it would then be a crime of passion, which would have likely gotten her some leniency at sentencing. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 17:31:25 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 17:15:52 2020. OGA and Dis Con happen to be real crimes, with real charges. If you don't want to be charged with either, don't act the fool.I'm sure both in Minnesota and New York, they were told to move ahead of time. I'll press pass does not mean you are immune or exempt from listening to a policeman's orders. Well yes, they were told to leave the white crews alone. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 17:33:51 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 17:21:30 2020. Her house and her auto were listed on the search warrant. Her boo was the one who brought this all upon themselves, by shooting at the police. The way it works is every single person in the location is initially put into coughs, and later on if it's determined they are not actually involved, they may be let go, so long as there's not any Contraband in any public area of the house. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 17:34:30 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 17:21:30 2020. As for the chick, some people take secrets to the Grave with them. She was obviously a nut. But her being a cop has nothing to do with any of this. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Jun 30 17:37:58 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 16:13:59 2020. They failed to mention that 99% of these people are killed during the commission of a crime, where is the police had no other option, or at least felt like there was no other option, then to use their firearmsOne reason "there was no other option" is that the police were not taught what the other options were. That goes into the lack of training (19 weeks US vs. 3 years Norway), especially in defusing a situation. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 17:39:09 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 17:33:51 2020. A search warrant obtained fraudulently, at that. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 17:43:34 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 17:34:30 2020. Any investigator worth their salt would have uncovered the truth of such an affair early on. There would have been text messages, DMs on social media, phone calls between her and Jean. It would have come out early. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jun 30 17:49:34 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 17:43:34 2020. Says the guy who is still denying the truth about the FBI lovebirds. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 17:50:51 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jun 30 17:49:34 2020. What "truth" about FBI "lovebirds"? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 30 18:11:05 2020, in response to Re: REAL Police Reform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 17:39:09 2020. Your opinion doesn't mean it was fraudulent. And don't link me to some op-ed either |
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