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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 23 12:21:20 2017, in response to Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 23 12:16:10 2017. Wrap has fewer carbs. It is "smaller" than the bread. But is there a difference in the ingredients inside the wrap/sandwich? That could make a bigger difference. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 23 12:26:07 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 23 12:21:20 2017. Yep. A nice dollop of mayonnaise can wipe out the lesser carbs. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 12:30:30 2017, in response to Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 23 12:16:10 2017. #IIFYMIf it fits your macros you'll be fine. You should have a goal for total carbs and calories. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue May 23 12:42:25 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by AlM on Tue May 23 12:26:07 2017. But if you're talking blood sugar, the mayo is better than the carbs. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue May 23 12:44:28 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 12:30:30 2017. But I get the impression from some wraps that the wrap is so dense I really don't know how it compares to some less dense breads. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 12:48:05 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by SLRT on Tue May 23 12:44:28 2017. Again, it depends on the wrap. There are low calorie ones. Many are better than bread, but some aren't. White bread is bad. Wheat options are better. That's also the case for wraps too. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 12:48:35 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by SLRT on Tue May 23 12:44:28 2017. Check the label.Use that to check calories and carbs and ingredients |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 12:49:46 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 12:48:05 2017. How tall are you_ |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue May 23 12:50:43 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 12:48:35 2017. If you're buying the wrap or sandwich made where you buy it it often doesn't have that information. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue May 23 13:05:06 2017, in response to Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 23 12:16:10 2017. I can't say what's healthier, but I'm a bread man myself.But there's also other options for the diverse multicultural people. There's the falefel sandwiches which come in a pita. Then very popular in all of the border communities from the border to Chicago and Seattle, the Tortilla. Some places you can hardly find bread, they make this all day and night. People go crazy for things called breakfast tacos, but I never had one. So really, there's a 4 way discussion that should be had to comply with all federal Title IX rules. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 14:56:36 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 12:49:46 2017. 6 feet |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 15:10:14 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by orange blossom special on Tue May 23 13:05:06 2017. I love bread, but have been trying to get back to my 2001 weight. I'm a few lbs off. Of goal I was always lucky....great metabolism. But, as you get older, catches up with you.I cut out a lot of sugar because diabetes in family. I lost 25 lbs since March, and it's all been portion control.. basically weight watchers sort of thing thinking points....eat what you want, but moderation.. skipping red meat for chicken and fish, etc. But still have steak once in a while. Low calorie wraps instead of bread, etc. Never was a sweets person. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 15:48:49 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by SLRT on Tue May 23 12:50:43 2017. Look on a bag at the supermarket.I just saw 13g carbohydrates per slice. Keep in mind, fiber is a carb, so that's in the total. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 15:53:28 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 15:10:14 2017. Chris.What is the weight you're chasing? I'm 178 at 5'11 and trying for 172. My macros are Carbs: 600 cals Fat: 1000 cals Protein: 300 cals So I'm eating lots of fat and moderate carbs. I will visit Suffolk to buy a chicken at Browder's Birds. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 16:12:15 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 15:53:28 2017. I want to get to 180-185. After loosing the 25 lbs, I'm already within normal range for where a 6 foot male should be, which is 185-220. I was 220, the highest I ever was in February, which spurred me to start really watching. I tried a low carb diet about 2 years ago, but I saw that as unhealthy. Skip fruits and veggies and eat all the bacon, fat and cheese you want?So I am doing a less stringent weight watchers style eating , portion control, counting points, etc. I was never a bad eater....didn't eat much sweets, and always loved vegetables, but when I ate so.wthing I liked, I went for seconds and thirds,. Now eat smaller portions, eat more vegetables, go for the fish or chicken at restaurants, etc. Still have beef once a week or so though, couldn't cut it out completely, but it's been working for me. And yes, cut out all sugar drinks, including juices. But that was because my doctor said I was borderline diabetic. But between eating better, and losing the 25+ lbs, that should be better now too. I never was a desserts person. Have sweets once a week or two, that's really it. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 16:24:33 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 16:12:15 2017. I tried a low carb diet about 2 years ago, but I saw that as unhealthy. Skip fruits and veggies and eat all the bacon, fat and cheese you want?That's what they do. Ketogenic/LCHF(Low carb high fat) Low carb would be about 50 grams or less of carbs a day. I do 120-150 grams because of a sweet potato and 1 piece of fruit. I'm moderate carb. Still have beef once a week or so though, couldn't cut it out completely, but it's been working for me Good. You should eat beef once a week. And the grass-fed is even better. Butter is also good. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue May 23 16:27:38 2017, in response to Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 23 12:16:10 2017. Skip the hot dog and burger, get a diet tuna wrap with lettuce and tomato and light mayonnaise. And a water or a diet Coke.That is my lunch almost every day. I used to add a bag of unsalted popcorn to that meal on the premise that since the main part of the meal was healthy, I was entitled to the additional 100 calories. Now I've cut that out too. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 16:31:18 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Mitch45 on Tue May 23 16:27:38 2017. "diet tuna"Also, would you consider going gluten/grain-free? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 16:34:37 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 16:24:33 2017. I still use butter, just less of it. I won't use butter substitutes or margarine. I like red meat, and pork. It's just so much higher points than the chicken or fish. So keep it to once a week or so. I used to eat a lot more of it.Also, have more smaller make. Instead of a bacon, egg and cheese, dripping with butter on a roll for breakfast, I will have plain instant oatmeal. Or instead of skipping lunch, and having a huge dinner, will make a chicken roll cold cut with one slice and f cheese on low calorie wrap for lunch....mustard instead of mayo. I couldn't believe how many y points a slice of cheese is. I used to pile on four or five slices, and eat some while making the sandwich. Would eat 3/4 of my now days points, just eating too many slices of cheese, or fill in a blank. I think k more about what I am eating, and how much. That's all I really have been doing, and it's worked great. I do still eat everything I love to eat, just less often and a lot less . And yes, grass fed is great. Have a friend upstate with a cow farm, and get fresh beef and pork from him when I go up there. Nothing like it. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 16:37:37 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 16:24:33 2017. Also cook using a lot more olive oil, instead of butter. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 16:39:05 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 16:34:37 2017. I disagree with parts of your strategy.But I won't get into a fight with you because you attended St. Mathias and were taught by Mrs. Ireland. Right now I'm hyped up about Browder's Birds. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 16:53:59 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 16:39:05 2017. I ddidn't have mrs Ireland |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 17:15:58 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 16:39:05 2017. No , no fight, id like to hear your input. Like I said, this has been working. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 18:08:00 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 17:15:58 2017. all diets work at the beginning because they are an upgrade from what a person previously ate.I'd buy the best cuts of bacon and pastured eggs and Swiss cheese because it's fermented. Also dark chocolate(85%) and 2oz. of almonds or macadamia nuts daily. Those are good sources of fat and protein. Eat one potato a day for carbs. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 18:10:45 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 16:37:37 2017. NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!Butter is better than olive oil for cooking and seasoning foods. Olive oil is good. Especially Extra Virgin. But you have to be careful because studies reveal some of it is fake. I'd eat 1 tbsp of grass-fed butter every single day. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 20:24:24 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 18:08:00 2017. I like dark chocolate actually. I do have that if I do eat a dessert or sweet snack. Don't Care for milk chocolate. I like bitter and sour tastes, never cared for sweet.I eat potatoes. What I have been doing is eating let's say a baked potatoes instead of fries. Cut out a lot of fried things. I like bacon, just eat less in a sitting. Again, moderation. I still have been eating what I like, just less. The only thing I really have been trying to cut out is fried stuff when I can. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 20:29:06 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 18:10:45 2017. Good to know, just really like olive oil. For example, in let's say an italian restaurant, I love dipping Italian breadin olive oil instead of using butter. Or I used to saute things in butter, now use olive oil instead. But I still use butter....just less. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue May 23 21:17:44 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 18:10:45 2017. From what I heard, you can't cook extra virgin olive oil, because you destroy what makes it special in the first place. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 22:37:33 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by 3-9 on Tue May 23 21:17:44 2017. From what I heard, you can't cook extra virgin olive oil, because you destroy what makes it special in the first place.I think I heard that too. I do make my own salad dressing with EEOV, ACV, ginger and mustard plus salt and pepper. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 22:59:02 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 20:24:24 2017. i know you are busy but if you have the time, get in to batch cooking.That means prepping food to eat at another time. If you cook and cool potatoes they form "resistant starch", and you won't metabolize the potatoes as glucose but as fiber. Good for gut bacteria. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 24 05:38:24 2017, in response to Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 23 12:16:10 2017. Theres such a variety of both tortillas and sliced bread that you can't really say one is across the board lower carb than the other. But probably the healthiest tortilla will contain less carbs than the healthiest bread, just in terms of volumeI think if you're really trying to lower your carbs then you probably want to steer clear of sandwiches. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed May 24 07:34:48 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 23 16:31:18 2017. The wife buys that for the house.We call it "taste free". |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed May 24 08:10:37 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Mitch45 on Tue May 23 16:27:38 2017. Skip the hot dog and burger, get a diet tuna wrap with lettuce and tomato and light mayonnaise. And a water or a diet Coke.Actually, I've had lunch at McDonald's lately but no burger, fries and shake. McDonald's has a grilled chicken "snack wrap". Very delicious and a break from the ordinary grease burger and greasier fries. Wendy's also has a grilled chicken "go wrap" too. Economically priced. And at Wendy's, I get a senior diet coke for free. About of bucks. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed May 24 08:27:02 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue May 23 20:29:06 2017. Adding a dollop of butter into olive oil enhances the butter taste without adding much fat. This trick expands the option of using more olive oil in cooking. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed May 24 08:43:46 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by 3-9 on Tue May 23 21:17:44 2017. Yes. Use plain old olive oil. Extra virgin is for the table. Add a dollop, about half a taspoon per tablespoon of oil to use for frying......especially good for breakfast, as it reduces fats while keeping the butter flavor desired for breakfast foods.Lost 30 points on cholesterol by doing this. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 24 09:32:35 2017, in response to Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 23 12:16:10 2017. I've been making sandwiches open faced so I can eat less bread and not mute the stuff I put on it. Less caloric, less carbs, whatever. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 24 10:07:44 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Fred G on Wed May 24 09:32:35 2017. then, when you cut calories for a period of time, you can reward yourself with a cheat meal at Frank Pepe's Apizza. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 24 10:10:34 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 24 10:07:44 2017. Amen brotha! Every diet needs a cheat day 🍕 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 24 10:33:29 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Fred G on Wed May 24 09:32:35 2017. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 24 10:38:10 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 24 10:33:29 2017. Hahahahaha! |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 24 10:40:26 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by bingbong on Wed May 24 08:27:02 2017. That is good to know because I don't always like the olive oil taste with certain things |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 24 10:42:25 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by 3-9 on Tue May 23 21:17:44 2017. Yes extra virgin is good for salad, etc.I don't generally use it for cooking. I like butter but use olive oil more now for cooking because of cholesterol |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 24 10:44:35 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Fred G on Wed May 24 09:32:35 2017. I do that with Burgers too although I've been eating, more chicken burgers instead of beef. But still have beef ones once in awhile |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 24 10:44:59 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Fred G on Wed May 24 10:10:34 2017. Exactly! |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 24 11:03:17 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by bingbong on Wed May 24 08:43:46 2017. I only use extra virgin olive oil, for cooking and everything else. Sometimes I flavor it by sweating some garlic or some herbs to flavor it a bit. And yes butter works as well! |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 24 11:18:37 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 24 10:44:35 2017. Yeah, the beef is then a special treat. BTW May is National Hamburger Month.On another matter, I didn't see anyone mention it but pork tenderloin is as lean as skinless chicken breast and is more flavorful. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 24 11:21:57 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by Fred G on Wed May 24 10:10:34 2017. Yes.Cheating once a week is a better strategy than thinking you can go on a diet 365. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed May 24 15:55:58 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 24 11:21:57 2017. Cheating once a week is a better strategy than thinking you can go on a diet 365.The tough part is trying not to cheat two times a week, three times a week etc. You have to know enough to get back on course or your pants will be tight ! Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed May 24 15:57:51 2017, in response to Re: Bread vs. Wrap, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 24 10:44:35 2017. I do that with Burgers too although I've been eating, more chicken burgers instead of beef.Chicken burgers ? I've heard of turkey burgers. Bill Newkirk |
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