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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 19:16:54 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 16:58:00 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The WSJ is still the business newspaper of record, along with the NY Times. Even after New Corp bought the paper, it's won several prizes for reporting, including the Pulitzer Prize.

Wipe the liberal bullshit off your glasses and try reading the Journal for what it really is, rather than what your biases tell you it is.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 19:18:25 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Nov 29 18:08:07 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL! You can't even pronounce half the words in the WSJ so how can you agree with Selkirk?

ROTFL!

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 19:24:01 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 19:16:54 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The robbery of a pizza joint in Staten Island on the front page shortly after Rupert took it over did the trick for me. I'll stick with Barrons thank you.

And you just lost the thread by trotting out the L-word. You forgot to include "gotcha" and "feminazis" for the trifecta. See what I mean about bad journalism?

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by WillD on Sun Nov 29 19:24:20 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 19:05:46 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Could we at least wrap you in copper and try to generate some electricity from your relentless spinning?

Give it up man, it was terrorism and the GOP is directly culpable for Dear's actions. It's time to stop trying to rationalize it away while you still have some face to save. At this point you look even worse than Bingbong in this thread.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 19:26:07 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by WillD on Sun Nov 29 19:24:20 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wait ... it just got better!

Carly Fiorina, the former Hewlett-Packard chief executive who is running for the Republican nomination, said on Fox News it was "typical left-wing tactics" to demonize opponents of abortion or the "sale of body parts" because what she said was "obviously a tragedy."

And of course, since the deniers will demand proff whilst complaining that only they know how to google ...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/29/us-colorado-shooter-idUSKBN0TH05O20151129?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 19:41:40 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 19:14:30 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Maybe it's done that way in Pigskuckle where you live because the quality of medicine is so poor? The hospitals in NY where my dad and brother did surgery had an anesthesiologist supervising several CRNAs. Typically both the MD and CRNA speak with the patient, and the CRNA does the job. The MD is called in only when it's a difficult case or the CRNA or surgeon requests assistance.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Nov 29 19:44:45 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 19:08:01 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
According to bingbong, a clean coat hanger and a few shots of Fireball are all you need.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Nov 29 19:53:10 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 19:18:25 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
GGF
STFU

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Nov 29 19:55:13 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 19:41:40 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
texasssss is better eh ?
rofl
lol

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by bingbong on Sun Nov 29 20:00:26 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 19:41:40 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, the quality of medicine is better.......and there's always backup right there. Two RCNAs is safer than one. That was SOP for all short surgery/invasive tests. The MD supervises the teams.

For actual surgery, it's always an MD in the OR.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 20:04:13 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 19:41:40 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So lemme get this straight ... in Texas, the CRNA does the surgery too? Heh. Well ... around here, the anesthesiologist stays in surgery along with the assistant unless the MD is a dentist. I'll take our piss poor surgery over the deathtraps you have down yonder.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 20:07:09 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by bingbong on Sun Nov 29 20:00:26 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Apparently down in Texas, it's all supervised by a veterinarian. Kinda makes sense. :)

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by bingbong on Sun Nov 29 20:07:37 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Nov 29 19:44:45 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, that's according to YOU.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Nov 29 20:09:29 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 20:04:13 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
iawtp

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Nov 29 20:12:12 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by bingbong on Sun Nov 29 20:07:37 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I read the thread about Dr Kermit G. You supported him while everyone else said that he was a criminal. Are you admitting that you were wrong then?

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 29 20:28:06 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 19:24:01 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Barron's is also Rupert.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 20:28:47 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 29 20:28:06 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I know ... I was wondering if Dave would notice. :)

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 21:46:14 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 20:04:13 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Sounds like your local hospitals have a problem, then...or you don't know what you're talking about. Federal law, as well as the guidelines of the American Society of Anesthesiologists, requires that anesthesia must be administered by:

1) An anesthesiologist; or
2) A doctor of medicine or osteopathy (other than an anesthesiologist); or
3) A dentist, oral surgeon, or podiatrist who is qualified to administer anesthesia under State law; or
4) A certified registered nurse anesthetist (CRNA), who, unless exempted, is under the supervision of the operating practitioner or of an anesthesiologist who is immediately available if needed; or
5) An anesthesiologist's assistant who is under the supervision of an anesthesiologist who is immediately available if needed.

Only one of these professionals is required in the OR, not two.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 21:46:46 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Nov 29 20:12:12 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Bingbong admit she's wrong?

LOL!!!!

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 29 21:52:26 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Nov 29 15:05:14 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
New Jersey is your territory.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 21:55:45 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 21:46:46 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes, I know. What was I thinking?

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 21:55:57 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 21:46:14 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Perhaps Texas has the problem. squeaking by the barest minimum standards is apparently good enough. New York State has a Department of Health that sets standards that exceed the lowest standards of federalista. And because of that little thing called "lawyers" (I'm sure you've heard of them) hospitals (not your drive-in stop and shop abortion clinics) will ensure that there's fewer chances of things going wrong. Imagine that? Exceeding the minimum standards out of an abundance of caution?

In Texas, they'd probably be shot for doing that. Here in New York, it makes us feel safer.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 29 21:58:37 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SMAZ on Sun Nov 29 13:37:07 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm an idiot but not stupid. I've been clear about this.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 21:59:04 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 21:46:46 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Well ... both of y'all let us know when you're ready to admit that you're wrong about that terrorist incident.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:02:29 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 21:59:04 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That will never happen.



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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 29 22:06:00 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 21:59:04 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You're so happy shit like this happens

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:09:34 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:02:29 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I sit in sheer amazement that Train Dude has been outdone. :)

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:10:08 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 29 22:06:00 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Certainly not ... we'd like to see it END. But here we have all these republicans wanting more. :(

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:11:16 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:09:34 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wait, I thought I was he.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:12:28 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:11:16 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you've admitted you ARE Train Dude.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:14:18 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 29 22:06:00 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Of course he was. I'll bet that he's so disappointed at the "small" body count. He's just a little upset because some here waited for all the facts before deciding it was "terrorism" by definition. How many of the liberals have yet to acknowledge that Ft. Hood was terrorism and still call it "Workplace Violence".

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 22:15:05 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 21:55:57 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Hate to confuse you with facts but NY allows CRNA's to administer anesthesia under the supervision of the anesthesiologist; the MD does not have to be in the OR while it's administered or during surgery. The MD does meet with the patient beforehand to review any contraindications and answer questions; so does the CRNA.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:15:13 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:12:28 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Heh. Well ... it seems pretty obvious that R2D2 is just a whistling parrot after all ... :)

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:15:24 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:12:28 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, bingbong. It's just that 2 weeks ago you and your husband were so sure that I was starting to believe it.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 22:17:40 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:02:29 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Sure it well. When a psych exam shows Dear was mentally competent, I'll go along with saying he was a domestic terrorist. I've been saying that from the beginning. The usual suspects here can't distinguish between facts and emotions so they start rendering their clothes and crying out, even before the facts are all in.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:17:46 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:14:18 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Pity your echo chamber won't tell you that in the cast of Ft Hood, he WORKED THERE. Sure it was terrorism, but it was ALSO workplace violence. Now ... did Robert L. Dear work at Planned Parenthood? You never cease to amaze me with the amazing level of stupid you shovel ...

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 22:18:21 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 22:17:40 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"Sure it will," not "well."

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:18:34 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:15:24 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm not bingbong.

Bingbong's name is Nancy and she lives in upstate New York.

My name is Tony (well, actually Anthony) and I live in Peoria, Arizona.



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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:18:40 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:15:13 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So then, you are saying that you were WRONG?

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 22:20:09 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Nov 29 19:53:10 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Tell me, Stumpy...do you have an adult hold your hand when you cross the street? That would be a smart idea.

Oh, and don't run with scissors.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:20:32 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:18:34 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you say. I still think that you are bingbong posting under a 2nd handle. There can't be 2 such partisan hateful people.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 22:21:39 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 20:28:47 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
If you really did read Barron's you would know I've been interviewed and/or by their reporters several times.

LOL!

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:21:39 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 22:15:05 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And that's all fine. Hospital administrators are the final deciders of what policies occur in their hospital. And around here, two is the rule. Maybe if we kill all the lawyers, that might change. :)

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:22:19 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:18:40 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Psssst ... you're admitting that you're an idiot. :)

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:23:06 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:20:32 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Cool it, Dave. :)

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 22:23:39 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:21:39 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Sounds like your hospital and/or doctors lost a malpractice suit so they require two in the OR. Not the first hospital nationwide that does that. But you tried to BS that ALL NY hospitals required it and I knew that was not true.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:23:51 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:23:06 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Now that was really original.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:24:01 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 22:17:40 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Oh man ... poor Dave. You just let the Ft Hood guy off the hook there. :)

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 29 22:24:53 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:18:34 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You have to wonder if the town wasn't named by a settler who came from Peoria, IL.

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Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:25:32 2015, in response to Re: Wow ... not a peep about today's terrorist attack on American soil?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:22:19 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Probably not but I'm arguing with one.

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