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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 08:47:02 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 21:51:45 2014. The whole point of this exchange is that I don't have any religion!That's you in the corner. That's you in the spotlight. Losing your religion [that you never had]. OK, so why do you believe in God? And why do you refuse to type the word "god" correctly? Those are questions. Are you open to them?Yes, they are questions. Good, so you're not a compete moron, only a total moron. Yes, I am open to them. But your local Orthodox rabbi would be best to answer them. And if you are sincere and don't act like the complete asshole that you really are, he may actually speak to you. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 7 08:58:58 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 21:52:33 2014. The fact that I eat on Yom Kippur proves that I'm an antisemite and that everyone else who eats on Yom Kippur is not an antisemite?No, the fact that you call it a "tradition" and that everyone else just considers it an ordinary day. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 7 09:00:42 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 7 08:58:58 2014. Pwn3d so good!!!!!! |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:15:49 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 08:31:35 2014. We did nothing of the sort.You must have failed to understand nuance and context again. My best guess is that I played along with WMATA's shell game and you took it completely literally because you can't understand abstract concepts. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:15:52 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 08:34:39 2014. As they say, "I can't define it, but I know what it is when I see it."Ah, so a sin is something you don't like. You having delusions of godhood now? Just FYI— when I addressed you as "Mighty All Knowing Turtle," that was sarcasm. For example, mocking someone else's peace-loving socially-responsible mankind-bettering baby-seal-protecting religion is a SIN. What if I mock someone else's genocide-inspiring factually incorrect baby-mutilating religion? So DAMN YOU. DAMN YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL. Sorry. Hell doesn't exist. Would you like to try again? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:15:55 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 08:36:14 2014. Are you sure you didn't drop out of second grade? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:15:58 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 08:36:56 2014. You mean nil? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:01 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 08:40:13 2014. I don't need to prove it. You made the claim about what you think someone said. It's up to you to prove it at fact.I already did. Now that I've provided the evidence to back up my claim, it's up to you to dispute that evidence. Never mind that you CAN'T, as it's only an opinion and thus it can't become fact if you're claiming a meaning other than the literal meaning. And even if you were trying to "prove" he meant the literal meaning, you can't do that either since he may have meant some other meaning. Um... I get that you're unable to understand abstract concepts but you can't easily fake it. Just because a statement is non-literal doesn't mean its meaning is unclear. So I'm right and you're wrong. Heh. You say that reflexively— it's like a tic. It doesn't actually mean anything. He and I and et. al. didn't say what you claim we said. We said what WE claim we said. Um, what you actually said is publicly available and can be linked to. Like so. Trying to argue that you or he didn't say what you unmistakably and obviously said isn't going to get you anywhere. You don't seem to understand this. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:05 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 08:41:06 2014. That's exactly how it works.I'm Jewish. These are traditions I follow because of my aforementioned cultural background. Ergo they are Jewish traditions. They may not be your traditions but that doesn't make them any less traditional or me any less Jewish. By the way, I spoke to my father this morning (about unrelated family issues) but in passing I mentioned your comment. He was quite amused by the notion that he's a failure as a man/parent/Jew because he fails to celebrate Yom Kippur in the manner that a random autistic manchild on the internet dictates he should. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:09 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 7 08:44:32 2014. What is it with you and the word "celebrate?" Is there something wrong with using that word to describe the activities I perform in observance of holidays? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:13 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 08:47:02 2014. That's you in the corner. That's you in the spotlight. Losing your religion [that you never had].Is this supposed to mean something? For what it's worth, I did technically have a religion of my own once. Yes, I am open to them. But your local Orthodox rabbi would be best to answer them. I asked why you believe God exists, not why a local Orthodox rabbi believes God exists. Being open to questions means you answer them, not that you point to an Authority™ and declare: "I believe whatever he says." Incidentally, the last time I asked a rabbi this question, his answer contained many dodges and hedges and waffles but basically boiled down to: "Actually, I kind of don't." Of course that wasn't an Orthodox rabbi, so as far as you're concerned he probably wasn't even Jewish. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:36 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 7 08:58:58 2014. I'm Jewish. That makes Yom Kippur my holiday. Which I celebrate. In a traditional fashion.It's an ordinary day to people who don't celebrate it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:39 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 7 09:00:42 2014. Don't make me CAPTCHA you. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 7 09:21:29 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 21:52:16 2014. That's the problem. Judaism isn't defined by strict allegiance to arbitrary traditions.False! There are 613 commandments that we "must" follow. I don't follow all of them, but I don't see any reason why I should. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 7 09:22:34 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 21:52:24 2014. I did not change my beliefs. I corrected my post in the first response. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 09:28:08 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:39 2014. Please do. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 09:28:58 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:36 2014. I'm Jewish. That makes Yom Kippur my holiday.No, it makes it a Jewish holiday. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:31:39 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 7 09:21:29 2014. If you "must" follow 613 commandments but you ignore some, why not ignore the others too? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:31:41 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 7 09:22:34 2014. Oh must have missed that, sorry.Still, why take the narrow view of "acceptable Jewish practices?" You're a Jew for life— why allow the people who believe in nonexistent gods tell you what you "must" do to "earn" the cultural background you already have? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:34:17 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 09:28:58 2014. Yes, it is a Jewish holiday. And I'm Jewish. Ergo, it is my holiday to celebrate. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 09:37:08 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:15:49 2014. No, that wasn't it. We discussed it. You and me. And not long ago. And your answers made it pretty clear that you don't know what's going on with your Judaism. Seems to me you aren't Jewish. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 09:40:09 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:15:52 2014. Ah, so a sin is something you don't like. You having delusions of godhood now?Partially. Just FYI— when I addressed you as "Mighty All Knowing Turtle," that was sarcasm.Duh. I know I'm not really a turtle. What if I mock someone else's genocide-inspiring factually incorrect baby-mutilating religion?OH I SEE WHAT YOU TRIED BUT FAILED TO DO THERE MISTER ROBOTO. Sorry. Hell doesn't exist. Would you like to try again?Eternal damnation. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 7 09:42:04 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:31:39 2014. Who says I don't? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 7 09:44:02 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:31:41 2014. Because when I didn't participate in any Jewish practices, I personally felt like a random goy. If you're in some country where Jews are persecuted, you're a Jew no matter how badly you don't want to be. OTOH, when you're in a country where they are not, and you act assimilated, it's like you're not one at all. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 09:47:17 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:13 2014. LOL!!!!! Totally zoomed over your head..... LMAO REM |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 09:47:31 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:13 2014. Is this supposed to mean something? LOL!!!!! Totally zoomed over your head..... LMAO REM |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:47:54 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 09:37:08 2014. No, that wasn't it. We discussed it. You and me. And not long ago.Link or it didn't happen. Seems to me you aren't Jewish. I am. 
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 09:49:09 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 08:47:02 2014. That's you in the corner. That's you in the spotlight. Losing your religion [that you never had].Oh life, it's bigger. It's bigger than you. And you are not me |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:51:07 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 09:40:09 2014. Partially.Narcissist. Duh. I know I'm not really a turtle. Can't tell if trolling or genuinely an idiot. OH I SEE WHAT YOU TRIED BUT FAILED TO DO THERE MISTER ROBOTO. I doubt it. You probably confabulated something and assumed I must have meant that. Eternal damnation. That's not a thing either. Try again? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:51:11 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 7 09:42:04 2014. So why fast? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:51:15 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 09:47:17 2014. You responded to the wrong post dummy. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:51:22 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 09:47:31 2014. Reference to something? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 09:52:13 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:51:22 2014. LOL!!!! Zooooooooooooom! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 09:52:54 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:51:15 2014. I even gave you a clue, but your too moronic to understand. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:54:47 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 09:52:13 2014. OK, just FYI— when you talk about a point "zooming over someone's head," that means they failed to get it due to a logical error or disconnect on their part.Not getting an obscure reference doesn't count. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:56:39 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 09:52:54 2014. I even gave you a clue, but you're too moronic to understand.OK, bonus irony points there. Now are you going to explain your reference or what? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 09:58:25 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:54:47 2014. It's not obscure at all. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 10:00:08 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:56:39 2014. LOL!!!!!! The answer to his reference was right in my post. I got what he said immediately, but you are too dense to realize when people are F'in with you. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 10:00:13 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 09:58:25 2014. Obscurity is relative.If you don't want to explain the reference, I'll be happy to start making references to Erfworld or AGAHF and expecting you to pick up on them. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 10:00:53 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 10:00:08 2014. And the reference is? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 10:01:34 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 10:00:13 2014. LOL!!!! Autistic freak. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 10:03:38 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 10:01:34 2014. Nonresponsive. Try again? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 7 10:20:58 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:13 2014. For what it's worth, I did technically have a religion of my own once.Really? I thought that you didn't believe in childhood religion (I don't). |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 10:33:12 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 7 10:20:58 2014. The notion of assuming children belong to their parents' religion is absurd and brainwashing them into it is evil.That said, I did once have a religion— it was a homebrew religion I made up myself and although I didn't know to call it a religion at the time, it meets the general criteria to be considered one. No one brainwashed me into it, I just decided it was true around when I learned to talk (or maybe earlier, but no one would know) and grew out of it by the time I was 5 or 6. Of course, being as I made up the religion myself I was obliged to write its holy text. Though seemingly a daunting task for a young child, it was actually deceptively easy— most holy texts are heavily plagiarised so all I had to do was rip off my favourite books and shows and narrate them to my dad. I actually still have the "holy text" squirreled away in a distant corner of a hard drive that hasn't been spun up in years (or maybe a floppy disk) but I don't think you'd be interested in a motley selection of books, shows, and cartoons misinterpreted by a preschooler and mixed with a random assortment of trains and badly mangled "history." |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 7 10:44:21 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:36 2014. I'm Jewish. That makes Yom Kippur my holiday. Which I celebrate. In a traditional fashion.It's an ordinary day to people who don't celebrate it. You're finally getting it. You're an anti-Semite not because you eat on Yom Kippur but because you have a tradition of mocking it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 10:46:53 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 7 10:44:21 2014. I have nothing of the sort. I have a tradition of celebrating Yom Kippur. This tradition differs from that practiced by assholes suffering from a combination of extreme narcissism and fragile ego who consider the practice of a different tradition to be "mocking" their own. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 7 10:48:04 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:31:39 2014. If you "must" follow 613 commandments but you ignore some, why not ignore the others too?Right; if you drive 75 mph in a 55 zone, why not also shoplift? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 10:50:01 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 7 10:48:04 2014. Because shoplifting hurts other people and is wrong, while speeding doesn't.I love it when a poorly thought out rhetorical question opens itself to a serious answer. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Oct 7 11:17:02 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 10:50:01 2014. Duh. You're the one who brought up the question in the first place, not him. You're just demonstrating that your argument in post 1231926 was poorly thought out. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 11:31:04 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 7 11:17:02 2014. Hardly. My argument in that post is that tradition and someone else's claim to own your cultural background are not a valid reasons to do something. RIPTA responded with an analogy he thought served as a reductio ad absurdum, but I pointed out the analogy was not valid, as there were good reasons for obeying the laws in his example not dependent on tradition or someone else's claim that they own the concept of Judaism but which don't apply to fasting on Yom Kippur. |
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