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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:04:27 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:15:55 2014. Yes. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:04:42 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:15:58 2014. Maybe? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:09:15 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:01 2014. I already did. Now that I've provided the evidence to back up my claim, it's up to you to dispute that evidence.No you didn't. All you did was show us what et. al. said. You didn't prove what et. al. meant when et. al. said that. Um... I get that you're unable to understand abstract concepts but you can't easily fake it. Just because a statement is non-literal doesn't mean its meaning is unclear.It obviously can be unclear [to you] since you're continually misunderstanding what et. al. is saying. The rest of us seem to be understanding et. al. just fine. Um, what you actually said is publicly available and can be linked to. Like so. Trying to argue that you or he didn't say what you unmistakably and obviously said isn't going to get you anywhere.Wrong. You are claiming that something was said that was not said. The words you claim was said are not shown in the links. You interpreted the written words to mean something. And your interpretation is incorrect. That's what I'm trying to tell you. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:12:21 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:05 2014. That's exactly how it works.No it's not. I'm Jewish.No, as of this morning, that was still unclear. These are traditions I follow because of my aforementioned cultural background. Ergo they are Jewish traditions. They may not be your traditions but that doesn't make them any less traditional or me any less Jewish.Of all the ridiculous, just plain incorrect things you have ever said, this has to be near the top. By the way, I spoke to my father this morning (about unrelated family issues) but in passing I mentioned your comment. He was quite amused by the notion that he's a failure as a man/parent/Jew because he fails to celebrate Yom Kippur in the manner that a random autistic manchild on the internet dictates he should.I'd expect to hear nothing less from a failure who raised someone like you. Thanks for validating my theory. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:16:40 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:16:13 2014. Is this supposed to mean something?Yes. But don't worry about it. LOL. I asked why you believe God exists, not why a local Orthodox rabbi believes God exists. Being open to questions means you answer them, not that you point to an Authority™ and declare: "I believe whatever he says."What do you want to hear? That I tried the kool-aid and it tasted good? That's pretty much it. Incidentally, the last time I asked a rabbi this question, his answer contained many dodges and hedges and waffles but basically boiled down to: "Actually, I kind of don't." Of course that wasn't an Orthodox rabbi, so as far as you're concerned he probably wasn't even Jewish.WRONG. Your level of observance is not the primary factor in determining if you are Jewish or not. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:17:07 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 7 10:00:08 2014. :) :) :) |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:19:23 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 10:50:01 2014. Speeding can hurt people in many indirect ways, just like shoplifting. So your argument FAILS. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:20:12 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 7 09:44:02 2014. yay Birthright |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:25:50 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:34:17 2014. No, it makes it a Jewish holiday to celebrate. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:28:10 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:47:54 2014. Nah I'll withhold the link a little longer.So is your father Jewish? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:51:56 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 09:51:07 2014. No, excellent, no, and no thanks. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 7 15:38:57 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 00:50:49 2014. I know plenty of Jewish people who don't care for the YK rituals as observed by observant people. They don't flaunt their decision to not observe traditionally in others faces the way you do. No one gives a shit about what you do or don't do, everyone is pissed off because you feel a need to tell everyone in an insulting manner what you don't do and why. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 7 15:39:32 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 7 00:51:00 2014. Then why are you suggesting that not all Jews are eligible to go to Israel when it simply isn't the case? |
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Posted by GaMeRa on Tue Oct 7 15:55:29 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 7 15:39:32 2014. Its how he operates here. Twisting what people write is how he 'debates" |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:13 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 7 15:38:57 2014. No one gives a shit about what you do or don't do...Then why all the whining? ...everyone is pissed off because you feel a need to tell everyone in an insulting manner what you don't do and why. What makes the manner "insulting?" And what would you recommend instead? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:16 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:04:42 2014. That's numberwang! |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:23 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:19:23 2014. Speeding can hurt people in many indirect ways...Oh? If the speed limit is 30 MPH but is then lowered to 20, does that mean a speed of 30 MPH was safe but became dangerous after the change? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:25 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 7 09:44:02 2014. Oh. OK.To each their own. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:30 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:12:21 2014. No, as of this morning, that was still unclear.My cultural background has been perfectly clear for months now. The rest of your post is just mindless contradiction not worth bothering to respond to. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:33 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:04:27 2014. Just checking. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:35 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:25:50 2014. Yes, and I'm Jewish.Can you understand a simple syllogism? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:42 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 7 15:39:32 2014. You made references to "weeding out" Jews not eligible to go to Israel, so I mentioned it. You clarified that this applies specifically to Birthright and not Israel itself, so I dropped it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:51 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:09:15 2014. No you didn't. All you did was show us what et. al. said. You didn't prove what et. al. meant when et. al. said that.Um, surprising as this may seem, most people can just naturally understand what people mean from what they say. It obviously can be unclear [to you] since you're continually misunderstanding what et. al. is saying. The rest of us seem to be understanding et. al. just fine. Oh Drs. Dunning and Kruger, why must you make my life so miserable? Wrong. You are claiming that something was said that was not said. I linked to the post where it was said. If you can't read, that's not my problem. The words you claim was said are not shown in the links. The meaning was said, even if those exact words were not. You interpreted the written words to mean something. Yes, that is how language works. And your interpretation is incorrect. Once you're capable of understanding abstract concepts, you can come back and offer your opinion. Until then, shut up. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:57 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 7 14:16:40 2014. Yes. But don't worry about it. LOL.I think you're full of shit. Your reference to a hipster douche band does not actually offer any meaning or insight. What do you want to hear? That I tried the kool-aid and it tasted good? That's pretty much it. I don't quite follow. Traditionally, one believes something to be true based on evidence. What evidence convinced you God exists? And why do you refuse to spell "god" correctly? WRONG. Your level of observance is not the primary factor in determining if you are Jewish or not. Funny thing, that... ...do you need this part explained to you? I know self-awareness is not your strong suit. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:11:24 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:13 2014. SMDH. You have a job? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:11:43 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:16 2014. No. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:12:26 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:23 2014. In some ways, yes. In other ways, no. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:14:29 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:25 2014. Actually a lot of people practice Judaism, especially among Jews. So it's a pretty common thing. Not strange at all. Have you considered that maybe what you do is the strange thing here? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:15:36 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:33 2014. Nope. You're just trolling. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:18:39 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:30 2014. Nope. Most of us don't care about your supposed culture. Culture is for wusses. We're obviously talking about RELIGION. It's not at all clear that you are actually Jewish. My point stands. As do all my other valid points in that post that you couldn't find a valid response to. |
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Posted by train dude on Wed Oct 15 09:24:49 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:30 2014. Culture? All you do is piss onthe culture of you parents and ancestors. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:24:55 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:35 2014. It's not clear that you are Jewish. And who in the what now? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:25:22 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:42 2014. LOL!! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:28:43 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:51 2014. Nope. As I very clearly and succinctly explained to you in the preceding post, neither the words nor the meaning that you claim was written/conveyed was actually written/conveyed. You misread/misinterpreted/misunderstood what et. al. said. I think et. al. knows what et. al. wrote/meant. You don't. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 15 13:36:34 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 17:18:57 2014. I think you're full of shit.I think the same about you. Your reference to a hipster douche bandI'm sensing some resentment. What did hipsters ever do to you? That said, I wasn't aware that it was a hipster douche band. does not actually offer any meaning or insight.I think it does. Traditionally, one believes something to be true based on evidence.Correct. Religion is an exception. I can't believe you didn't know that. I think you're trolling. What evidence convinced you God exists?Why do you think there is evidence? If there was evidence, we wouldn't be having this conversations. So...? And why do you refuse to spell "god" correctly?I don't refuse to spell "god" correctly. Funny thing, that... ...do you need this part explained to you? I know self-awareness is not your strong suit.Nope. I know what you're trying to say. But you're wrong. I don't need your incorrect notions explained to me. As I said, your level of observance is not the primary factor in determining if you are Jewish or not. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 18:59:40 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:25:22 2014. Something funny? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 18:59:46 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:28:43 2014. And as you have plainly demonstrated, you are a concrete thinker who cannot understand non-literal meaning, but you lack the self-awareness to recognise this limitation.As such, you misinterpret anything that is not explicitly stated in simple literal terms, and then condescendingly explain to the people who did understand it that your misinterpretation is obviously what it meant. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 18:59:53 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 15 13:36:34 2014. I think the same about you.Yes, but since you're full of shit I don't much care. I'm sensing some resentment. What did hipsters ever do to you? That said, I wasn't aware that it was a hipster douche band. Actually, I used the phrase "hipster douche band" as a stand-in for "obscure" because you were smugly preening that I'd never heard of some obscure band. I should have remembered that you can't understand nuance and context. I think it does. Then what? Correct. Religion is an exception. I can't believe you didn't know that. I'm well aware that people believe in religions without evidence, but doing so is irrational. Are you simply admitting that you are irrational? That you believe something false because you think the truth doesn't matter? Please elaborate. I'd love to hear more details. And that's not sarcasm— most religious people pretend they have evidence and then dodge and weave when asked to provide it so if you're candidly admitting you don't have any reason to believe God exists, then this can be the one area in which you have true insight to offer. Why do you think there is evidence? If there was evidence, we wouldn't be having this conversations. So...? Well like I said, one generally believes something is true because there is reason to think that it is. If you believe God exists even though you know he doesn't, I'd love to hear your reasoning. So if you have no evidence God exists, why do you believe he does? I don't refuse to spell "god" correctly. Then what's with the "g-d" then? You may be willing to spell "god" (the common noun; a generic powerful mythical being that appears in many cultures) properly, but you don't correctly spell "God" (the proper noun, a specific character in the Torah and fan fiction thereof). Nope. I know what you're trying to say. I don't think you do. Because this... As I said, your level of observance is not the primary factor in determining if you are Jewish or not. ...does not mesh with this. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:16 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:24:55 2014. It's not clear that you are Jewish.It's perfectly clear and not in dispute. And who in the what now? A syllogism. Can you understand it? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:17 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by train dude on Wed Oct 15 09:24:49 2014. All you do is piss onthe culture of you parents and ancestors.Really? My parents have pretty much the same culture I do— that's how it generally works. Like nearly everybody else, I celebrate holidays today the same way I did growing up. In fact, both of my parents, all four of my grandparents, and at least one great-grandparent were all atheists (even if they don't like to use that word). So exactly what parents and ancestors were you talking about? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:21 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:18:39 2014. Most of us don't care about your supposed culture.Then how come every time I celebrate a holiday, a dozen whiners start shrieking: "IT IS ANTISEMITIC THAT NILET IS JEWISH! NILET IS OPPRESSING ME BY BEING JEWISH AND CELEBRATING HOLIDAYS!" We're obviously talking about RELIGION. No, you're not. WMATA likes to play a shell game where Judaism is "only" a religion when that's convenient for him, but for the rest of the world it's also an ethnicity and a cultural heritage. It's not at all clear that you are actually Jewish. It has been perfectly clear since April. My point stands. As do all my other fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:24 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:15:36 2014. You admitted you're trolling so you've already lost. Sorry. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:25 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:14:29 2014. Did you actually read my previous post?It's a lesson you and your fellow whiners should really try to learn. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:27 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:12:26 2014. In what ways yes and in what ways no? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:28 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:11:43 2014. That's wordwang! |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:30 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 15 09:11:24 2014. If you want to make dumb comments, then maybe you can answer the questions then—1. Why all the whining? 2. What makes the manner "insulting?" 3. And what would you recommend instead? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 16 13:36:45 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 19:00:16 2014. FULLY LICENSEDFULLY TRAINED FULLY JEWISH JEWISH! |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 17 04:21:12 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 16 13:36:45 2014. ???? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 18 21:01:45 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 18:59:53 2014. Actually, I used the phrase "hipster douche band" as a stand-in for "obscure" because you were smugly preening that I'd never heard of some obscure band. I should have remembered that you can't understand nuance and context.That would be cute, except that it's not an obscure band. LOL! I'm well aware that people believe in religions without evidence, but doing so is irrational. Are you simply admitting that you are irrational? That you believe something false because you think the truth doesn't matter? Please elaborate. I'd love to hear more details. And that's not sarcasm— most religious people pretend they have evidence and then dodge and weave when asked to provide it so if you're candidly admitting you don't have any reason to believe God exists, then this can be the one area in which you have true insight to offer. Well like I said, one generally believes something is true because there is reason to think that it is. If you believe God exists even though you know he doesn't, I'd love to hear your reasoning. So if you have no evidence God exists, why do you believe he does?I don't think you understand how religion works. It is based on faith, not facts. It is completely irrational but not because you know it is not true - it is irrational because you can't prove that it is or isn't true. Then what's with the "g-d" then?I don't write that. ...does not mesh with this.Yes it does! You incorrectly think that when I say you're not Jewish, it's because of your asinine bastardization of Jewish rituals. But you're wrong (as usual)! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 18 23:57:18 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 18:59:46 2014. WRONG. As I very clearly and succinctly explained to you in the preceding post, neither the words nor the meaning that you claim was written/conveyed was actually written/conveyed. You misread/misinterpreted/misunderstood what et. al. said. I think et. al. knows what et. al. wrote/meant. You don't. |
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