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Posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Oct 6 00:51:07 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 00:43:26 2014. "But just like with the religion, the loud people get all the attention." That I agree with. The loud ppl getting the attention are usually the ones who isn't representing said group in the best light unfortunately. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 00:55:21 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Oct 6 00:35:10 2014. Not entirely false. I will say this— I'm not talking about ALL healthy people but the "organized" ones for lack of a better term. Seems to me there are two categories of healthy people; ones that aren't sick and don't necessarily hide it their healthiness but don't advertise it either (though you might find out in a course of a conversation) and the more "organized" ones for lack of a better term who are healthy and seem to continuously fight against disease (launch vaccination campaigns, offer health care to people who can't afford it, have arguments with people who advocate spreading disease, etc). I'm really talking about those people. Their obsession with fighting disease is almost like a disease itself which I find kind of ironic. I have no problem who chooses to make themselves sick (and what disease they deliberately contract) or don't deliberately make themselves sick but I respect people's right to choose as long as they don't make other people sick intentionally. (Making other people sick inadvertently because diseases are contagious doesn't count.)I did my best to fix your horrendous grammar but the results may not be perfect. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 00:55:23 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 23:51:50 2014. How can those atheists claim Santa doesn't exist? He's in, like, every mall in America! |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 00:55:25 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by FtGreeneG on Sun Oct 5 23:21:59 2014. So you're claiming it's hypocritical for atheists to complain that religionists are imposing their wacky beliefs on other people while at the same time atheists aren't trying to impose wacky beliefs on anybody?That's not hypocrisy— that's the opposite of hypocrisy. That's the way it's supposed to work. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 00:55:26 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Oct 5 22:32:05 2014. Of course it does. Anyone on the planet who observed that this is something we've done every year would conclude that it's a tradition. That's kind of what the word means. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 00:55:28 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Oct 5 22:31:36 2014. Perhaps if you realized how your disagreement is disrespectful we'd start getting somewhere.I'm already well aware— I disagree with a belief you think a magic sky man told you to have. Religion is like a mental rootkit; it aggressively defends itself by closing your mind to anything that contradicts it. I make it clear by words and example that your religion is bullshit, so it forces you to ignore the points I've made. Once your religion has made your decision for you, your conscious mind rationalises that decision by pretending that you're concerned with how I made my point, inventing this imaginary "disrespect" to justify the choice your mental malware made for you. I disagree on lots of stuff with lots of people here but I don't think they find me disrespectful the way people find you to be. The only "people" who find me disrespectful are your fellow nutters with the same infection you have. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 6 00:55:39 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Oct 6 00:51:07 2014. Totally agreed. Fortunately though, the atheists have yet to take over a political party. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 6 00:57:30 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 00:55:23 2014. 
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 6 01:05:31 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 00:55:26 2014. It might be your tradition but that doesn't make it a Jewish tradition. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 6 01:07:26 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 00:55:28 2014. Proving your immaturity yet again. My beliefs were not told to me by a "magic sky man" and the fact that you call all of us who are religious "nutters" and claim we are "infected" with a set of beliefs is disrespectful. No one is telling you that you have to be religious, but you do need to be respectful of those who have made that choice for themselves. I don't see anyone telling you that you must not be an atheist or criticizing you for those beliefs. You are only being criticized for being an insulting asshole to others. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 01:52:41 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 6 01:07:26 2014. My beliefs were not told to me by a "magic sky man"Well no, but you believe a magic sky man exists and base most of your life around what people told you he wants. and the fact that you call all of us who are religious "nutters" and claim we are "infected" with a set of beliefs is disrespectful. You believe a magic sky fairy gets miffed when you eat a cheeseburger. "Nutter" is an accurate description. "Infected" is just a metaphor for how the belief spreads— like a computer virus that alters your mind and belief system on a fundamental level. It's not a judgement on you as such. So basically what you're saying is that I correctly pointed out that your beliefs are crazy, and this is inherently disrespectful. It isn't— if I went around claiming a yellow dragon that only I can see told me I had to buy a pound of ham every week and stuff it down the garbage disposal, people would rightly think I was crazy and it would not be "disrespectful" of them to point it out. No one is telling you that you have to be religious... Well you do have a habit of getting offended that I don't celebrate holidays in the way you think a magic sky man ordered me to. ... but you do need to be respectful of those who have made that choice for themselves. The problem, of course, is that you have defined it as inherently disrespectful that I've noticed your beliefs are wrong. This is because, as noted, religion is like a mental rootkit; having taken control of your mind and integrated itself into your very sense of identity, it forces you to treat an attack on it as an attack on yourself and so you instinctively shut down your mind and then make silly rationalisations for why you refuse to accept my logic. I don't see anyone telling you that you must not be an atheist or criticizing you for those beliefs. Your point being? You and your fellow nutters are the only one claiming it's inherently disrespectful to tell someone their beliefs are wrong. If you told me I had to join your religion, I'd ask you to provide the evidence to justify that claim but I would never call you "disrespectful" simply for making it. You are only being criticized for being an insulting asshole to others. No, I'm being criticised because I pointed out that you're wrong— when I noticed that your religion is bullshit, it immediately hijacked your brain, shut down your ability to understand facts and logic, and let your conscious mind rationalise your failure to understand my points after the fact. The idea that you're just offended that I'm "disrespecting" your beliefs is trivially easy to disprove— long before I ever mentioned religion, I noted in passing that I was celebrating Passover. You responded by throwing a tantrum and calling me an asshole— not because I criticised your religion, but because I mentioned in passing that I could celebrate Passover without subscribing to it, thus inadvertently disproving the idea that being religious was in inherent part of being Jewish and weakening the religion's primary hold on you, that it's convinced you it's an inherent aspect of who you are. Even though I didn't even mention religion myself, your religion stepped in to defend itself, shutting down your brain to prevent you from understanding the facts before you and leaving your conscious mind to assume that if you're ignoring the facts it must be because they offended you. You're not upset because I've "disrespected" your religion— you're upset because I don't belong to it. Or rather, you've defined it as inherently disrespectful that I don't share your beliefs. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 01:52:48 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 6 01:05:31 2014. It's how I traditionally celebrate Jewish holidays and my cultural background.That makes it a Jewish tradition. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Oct 6 02:39:38 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 3 21:45:12 2014. Exactly. I have often....for example, eaten meat on Good Friday.....yet wasn't "celebrating" by doing such, nor do I have some sort of fetish to report and post such to antagonize people who follow or do practice what they do that day. Its sick actually. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 04:11:59 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Oct 6 02:39:38 2014. I have often....for example, eaten meat on Good Friday.....yet wasn't "celebrating" by doing suchDo you celebrate Good Friday? nor do I have some sort of fetish to report and post such You just did. I'm hardly the only person to mention holidays on SubChat. ... to antagonize people... See there's the narcissism again. Or maybe it's just your lack of a theory of mind; you have difficulty understanding that I do things for my own reasons, so you assume that if you don't like something I do, I must have done it for the express purpose of annoying you and for no other reason. ... who follow or do practice what they do that day. Wait, so I celebrate holidays for the purpose of annoying people who celebrate them? You really need to think this through before posting. Its sick actually. You're the one who obsesses over me. You might want to see to that. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Oct 6 06:50:04 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 04:11:59 2014. Lol! Fetish freak! |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Oct 6 06:56:49 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 01:52:41 2014. Ah another OCD Nilet post no one bothers to read. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Oct 6 07:49:31 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 5 15:31:53 2014. The opposite of love is not hate, its apathy.If you really didn't care about any religions, you wouldn't take the time to mock them. Clearly, something else is going on here. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Oct 6 07:51:07 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 5 15:31:56 2014. Does that make any difference to you? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 07:58:45 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 5 21:42:58 2014. Nope. Like I said, no. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 08:00:19 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 01:52:48 2014. No, it makes you a complete moron and your father should be ashamed. What a failure as a Jewish man/parent. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 08:02:25 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Oct 6 06:56:49 2014. Yep. I read about 5 words of that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 08:04:41 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 00:55:28 2014. WRONG! That proves you don't even know about your own religion!!! Judiasm is particularly open to questions and anything that contradicts it!!!! What an idiot. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 08:21:37 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Oct 6 02:39:38 2014. ++++++€+++++11111 |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 08:23:12 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 5 15:31:56 2014. Wrong. That's not what a sin is. Learn before you mock, asshole. |
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Posted by GaMeRa on Mon Oct 6 08:51:33 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 5 23:51:50 2014. Good for them. Santa has nothing to do with Christianity |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 09:53:12 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 6 00:47:59 2014. Huh? How does that disprove what I said? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 10:02:02 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 08:02:25 2014. I read the whole thing. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 6 10:32:39 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 01:52:48 2014. If you applied to go on Birthright and when asked what your favorite holiday was, you answered Yom Kippur because your family has a special cheeseburger recipe that you prepare to eat that day, your application for the trip would be rejected. Judaism casts a wide net in terms of what is considered legitimate practice, but it doesn't cover everything. You fall outside those boundaries, and the fact you feel a need to come here and flaunt it is disrespectful and disgusting. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 6 10:34:41 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 10:02:02 2014. So did I, my point still stands. He's a disrespectful asshole who doesn't understand how offensive and socially inappropriate his posts are. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 6 10:35:19 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Oct 6 02:39:38 2014. Excellent post |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 6 10:35:37 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Oct 6 07:49:31 2014. Excellent post |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 6 10:36:06 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 6 10:34:41 2014. We all know ALL of that without having to bother to read his OCD posts. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 10:38:17 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 6 10:32:39 2014. Yep. Until my Birthright trip I was a pure atheist, and since then I've been almost a deist because I want to comport my beliefs to acceptable Jewish practice. Not because I'm afraid that God is making me do it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 10:38:37 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 10:38:17 2014. Not my beliefs, my PRACTICES. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 10:39:18 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 6 10:36:06 2014. He made some good points, but they were all completely irrelevant to our complaint about his posts. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 6 10:40:53 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 10:39:18 2014. Any good point he may have is completely lost in the haze of moronic lunacy and complete assholish behavior he does here. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Oct 6 12:18:14 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 5 15:32:08 2014. See, this is why you and your fellow nutters keep making fools of yourself every holiday.Says the person with the fictional country. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 12:34:26 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Oct 6 12:18:14 2014. fantastical country. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Oct 6 12:53:13 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 10:02:02 2014. You're a better man than I in that regard. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Oct 6 12:57:25 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 10:38:37 2014. Why do you want your practices to agree with acceptable Jewish practice? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Oct 6 12:58:21 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 6 10:32:39 2014. Are you sure? Wouldn't it still be accepted as long as he met the actual requirements of Jewish lineage or whatever? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 6 13:04:34 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Oct 6 12:58:21 2014. They use that interview to try weeding out people who just want a free trip to Israel and aren't eligible for it. Chances are his approach would get his application rejected. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Oct 6 13:25:41 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 00:55:26 2014. Of course it does. Anyone on the planet who observed that this is something we've done every year would conclude that it's a tradition. That's kind of what the word means.And it's your "tradition" that makes you an anti-Semite and everyone else who eats on Yom Kippur and eats bread on Passover not anti-Semites. |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Oct 6 13:36:18 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 6 00:49:07 2014. Hey I love Ft Greene BK! And in defense of the G... hmmmm (got nothing)...lol |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 14:13:15 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Oct 6 12:57:25 2014. Because if I didn't, then I would have no legitimate claim to being Jewish. I mean I do have a Jewish mother, so there's that, but that would be it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 15:48:39 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 14:13:15 2014. So why do you want to be able to claim that you are Jewish? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 15:49:31 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 6 13:04:34 2014. Ok. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 15:56:12 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 15:48:39 2014. To myself, not necessarily to any others. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 21:50:38 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Oct 6 06:50:04 2014. 
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 21:50:41 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 6 10:40:53 2014.
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