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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 6 01:52:41 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Yom Kippur, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 6 01:07:26 2014. My beliefs were not told to me by a "magic sky man"Well no, but you believe a magic sky man exists and base most of your life around what people told you he wants. and the fact that you call all of us who are religious "nutters" and claim we are "infected" with a set of beliefs is disrespectful. You believe a magic sky fairy gets miffed when you eat a cheeseburger. "Nutter" is an accurate description. "Infected" is just a metaphor for how the belief spreads— like a computer virus that alters your mind and belief system on a fundamental level. It's not a judgement on you as such. So basically what you're saying is that I correctly pointed out that your beliefs are crazy, and this is inherently disrespectful. It isn't— if I went around claiming a yellow dragon that only I can see told me I had to buy a pound of ham every week and stuff it down the garbage disposal, people would rightly think I was crazy and it would not be "disrespectful" of them to point it out. No one is telling you that you have to be religious... Well you do have a habit of getting offended that I don't celebrate holidays in the way you think a magic sky man ordered me to. ... but you do need to be respectful of those who have made that choice for themselves. The problem, of course, is that you have defined it as inherently disrespectful that I've noticed your beliefs are wrong. This is because, as noted, religion is like a mental rootkit; having taken control of your mind and integrated itself into your very sense of identity, it forces you to treat an attack on it as an attack on yourself and so you instinctively shut down your mind and then make silly rationalisations for why you refuse to accept my logic. I don't see anyone telling you that you must not be an atheist or criticizing you for those beliefs. Your point being? You and your fellow nutters are the only one claiming it's inherently disrespectful to tell someone their beliefs are wrong. If you told me I had to join your religion, I'd ask you to provide the evidence to justify that claim but I would never call you "disrespectful" simply for making it. You are only being criticized for being an insulting asshole to others. No, I'm being criticised because I pointed out that you're wrong— when I noticed that your religion is bullshit, it immediately hijacked your brain, shut down your ability to understand facts and logic, and let your conscious mind rationalise your failure to understand my points after the fact. The idea that you're just offended that I'm "disrespecting" your beliefs is trivially easy to disprove— long before I ever mentioned religion, I noted in passing that I was celebrating Passover. You responded by throwing a tantrum and calling me an asshole— not because I criticised your religion, but because I mentioned in passing that I could celebrate Passover without subscribing to it, thus inadvertently disproving the idea that being religious was in inherent part of being Jewish and weakening the religion's primary hold on you, that it's convinced you it's an inherent aspect of who you are. Even though I didn't even mention religion myself, your religion stepped in to defend itself, shutting down your brain to prevent you from understanding the facts before you and leaving your conscious mind to assume that if you're ignoring the facts it must be because they offended you. You're not upset because I've "disrespected" your religion— you're upset because I don't belong to it. Or rather, you've defined it as inherently disrespectful that I don't share your beliefs. |
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