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Posted by SLRT on Thu May 23 11:23:54 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 11:12:35 2013. Bingbong, that's not his view of women. Don't read these things so literally.But the attitude that "you don't do that to a woman" may well save her life. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 11:28:48 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SLRT on Thu May 23 11:22:07 2013. You'd have to say something funny to be funny. That wasn't funny. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 11:29:47 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SLRT on Thu May 23 11:13:16 2013. Religious liberty always trumps troop cohesion except when the immediate needs of the military cannot allow it.If somebody wants a halal MRE they get a halal MRE unless he is at a FOB in the middle of nowhere on Day 23 and all the halal MREs have run out. Only then can the military say "tough shit. Now suck it up and drive on". I like halal MREs. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 11:31:58 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 11:12:35 2013. I was thinking of pawning Robert Blake off to her.She's scarier. Did you see what she did? |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 11:33:26 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SLRT on Thu May 23 11:23:54 2013. I disagree. First of all, enslavement is illegal. Has been for a century+.Secondly, thinking like that just enables misogyny. We need a whole lot less of that in this world. |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu May 23 11:41:02 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 11:29:47 2013. That's now and I'm not arguing with that. But for most of the nation's history (at least through Vietnam) that wasn't the fact.Just curious: assuming that there are sufficient MREs available, can any soldier ask for any kind of MRE, even if they are under no religious obligation to require it? And how do mess halls handle the situation? At most mess halls I was at you could ask NOT to have this or that, or choose one or another of something if there was a choice, but I can't imagine separate mess lines for Kosher or Halal as I believe would be strictly required if you were observant. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 11:57:07 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SLRT on Thu May 23 11:41:02 2013. Just curious: assuming that there are sufficient MREs available, can any soldier ask for any kind of MRE, even if they are under no religious obligation to require it?You bring them along in big cases full of MREs. One takes whichever ones he wants and likes. They're just sitting there in cases. Halal ones, vegeterian ones, thai chicken, ratatoullie, tetrazzini etc. And how do mess halls handle the situation? At most mess halls I was at you could ask NOT to have this or that, or choose one or another of something if there was a choice, but I can't imagine separate mess lines for Kosher or Halal as I believe would be strictly required if you were observant. It's a buffet-like line. You eat what you want. Dining facility personnel are supposed to be trained to know what's halal or kosher and what's not so as to assist anybody asking about something. Everything has changed since the 'Nam times. Army DFACs rock. Contractors who are performing unsatisfactory service get replaced when the contract is up if enough soldiers give them unsatisfactory ratings on forms available at the facility. It's like Yelp. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu May 23 12:03:35 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 11:29:47 2013. If somebody wants a halal MRE they get a halal MRE unless he is at a FOB in the middle of nowhere on Day 23 and all the halal MREs have run out. Only then can the military say "tough shit. Now suck it up and drive on". Surah 2:173 |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu May 23 12:15:24 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 11:57:07 2013. One takes whichever ones he wants and likes. They're just sitting there in cases.Halal ones, vegeterian ones, thai chicken, ratatoullie, tetrazzini etc. I was in the Army at the wrong time -- at least food-wise. :( They had a food rotation, for example, 12 of the 30 dinner meals per month were supposed to be pork. You ate what was served. Whether it was very good or nearly inedible pretty much depended on the mess sergeant. But ... are there no more Army cooks and mess staff? No KP? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 12:16:56 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu May 23 12:03:35 2013. Excellent.Religious liberty is upheld even in those cases then. AFAIK there are similar passages in the Bible regarding kashrut. |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu May 23 12:17:38 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu May 23 12:03:35 2013. Does that mean shellfish is Halal? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 12:29:38 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SLRT on Thu May 23 12:15:24 2013. But ... are there no more Army cooks and mess staff? No KP?Nope. Not really anyway. Too expensive. Even a lowly private costs a hell of a lot more than some low-wage contracted worker when you consider pay, benefits, pensions, family services, housing etc. A waste of human resourses too. It was different when they had a surplus of cheap draftees in your time. They still have people who can volunteer to be trained to do food service in cases of emergencies. The stuff brought into FOBs in combat zones or out in the field is also contractor-made though soldiers may service it if it's too dangerous for contractors to come out there. They may still have KP in basic training for old-time sake. Not sure. I think the only branch that still has real cooks and chefs is the Navy. I know that the Army and Air Force people who volunteer to train for food service qualificiation go to the Navy's school. Other than that, the days of Beetle Bailey are long over. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Thu May 23 13:10:19 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 10:27:08 2013. That's a very expensive method of execution. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 13:12:06 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by kew gardens teleport on Thu May 23 13:10:19 2013. It actually isn't. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu May 23 13:12:53 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SLRT on Thu May 23 12:17:38 2013. Does that mean shellfish is Halal?Yes. So is rabbit. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Thu May 23 13:18:07 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 10:11:23 2013. I feel the death penalty should be reserved for traitors, mass murderers and foreign terrorists.I think the way it used to work in Britain post-1957 was broadly correct. Terrorism needs special treatment, I agree; and I don't see why their naturalization status should affect this, if their loyalties are to some hypothetical caliphate instead of to America. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Thu May 23 13:22:15 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SLRT on Thu May 23 11:13:16 2013. Surely the easiest solution is to provide *only* Kosher rations? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 15:07:23 2013, in response to Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 02:07:13 2013.  |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 15:10:15 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 11:12:35 2013. Sounds like sour grapes to me. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 15:56:16 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 13:12:06 2013. Not when you consider the cost of appeals,most of which are mandatory and some automatic. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 23 16:28:46 2013, in response to Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 02:07:13 2013. Dunno who Jodi "Aries" is. Do you still want us to do your thinking for you, or do you prefer to let Soros do that? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 23 16:31:19 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Arias Die?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 23 16:28:46 2013. Wow. Soros is so powerful that he can make SMAZ misspell someone's name? I'm truly impressed. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 23 17:16:23 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu May 23 08:43:50 2013. You are no Jew. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 17:40:34 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 23 17:16:23 2013. Capital punishment is supported under Jewish law. However during the Second Temple period it was effectively legislated out of existence. The procedures required to execute someone were so onerous as to make it virtually impossible to execute anyone. It is said that if more than one person was executed in seven years, then the Sanhedrin (Jewish religious government) was deemed to be unusually murderous. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu May 23 18:05:45 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 23 17:16:23 2013. Because I am for the death penalty? |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 23 18:07:56 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 17:40:34 2013. Of course Adolf Eichmann had it coming. The story of how the Mossad got that dirtbag out of South America is one hell of a story. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu May 23 18:08:09 2013, in response to Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 02:07:13 2013. The death penalty should be used on a daily basis, Televised on pay per view, with the proceeds going to the victim's families. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Thu May 23 18:12:33 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 15:56:16 2013. So the appeals shouldn't happen if you sentence someone to death by feeding them at public expense and waiting for them to die naturally? That's a strange concept of justice. |
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Posted by FWT9000 on Thu May 23 18:12:58 2013, in response to Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 02:07:13 2013. No because She will be exonerated someday |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 18:16:18 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 23 17:16:23 2013. What is the relevance? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 18:18:04 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 15:56:16 2013. "Not when you consider the cost of appeals,most of which are mandatory and some automatic."So then for you, it's a matter of dollars and it's not a moral issue. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 23 18:19:57 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu May 23 18:08:09 2013. It would raise BILLION$ |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 23 18:25:40 2013, in response to Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 02:07:13 2013. Who?? |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 23 18:33:44 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu May 23 18:25:40 2013. Jodi Arias. An Arizona woman who was recently convicted of shooting her ex-boyfriend dead and then nearly decapitating him. Her case is now in the penalty phase. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 18:41:57 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Arias Die?, posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 23 18:33:44 2013. You forgot that she stabbed him 32 times as well. I wonder whet he did to provoke her? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 18:48:58 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu May 23 18:05:45 2013. You are a hypocrite if you claim that people are themselves hypocrites for advocating policies that are contrary to Jewish teachings, when you yourself advocate such an expansive death penalty, which is contrary to Jewish teachings. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu May 23 18:55:10 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Arias Die?, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 18:41:57 2013. Yeah that's more severe than the dog house.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 19:04:20 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 18:18:04 2013. Wrong.Being what it is, the cost of appeals to a death sentence is higher than the cost of maintaining a prisoner for life without parole. That is a fact brought forward by Spider-Pig you're apparently not disputing. That has nothing to do with opinions of the overall issue of death penalties. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu May 23 19:13:24 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Arias Die?, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 18:41:57 2013. Sorry for the omission, I was unaware of that mutilation. She must have been one outraged cunt. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 19:15:34 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 19:04:20 2013. Will you shuthte fuck up with your constant "WRONG" reply. It's exactly what you said. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 19:21:13 2013, in response to Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 02:07:13 2013. All involved parties have been summoned to the courthouse. Either they've come to a decision or they are deadlocked and want the judge to release them before the Memorial Day Holiday. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 23 19:21:16 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 19:15:34 2013. ???I don't see any place in this thread where bingbong opposes the death penalty because life in prison is cheaper. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 19:26:20 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by AlM on Thu May 23 19:21:16 2013. So then this is my imagination? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 23 19:28:44 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 19:26:20 2013. No. It is a statement that life imprisonment is cheaper than the death penalty. It's not given as a reason why the death penalty should be prohibited. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu May 23 19:31:12 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 19:15:34 2013. When you're wrong, you're wrong. You ARE wrong.The fact that death penalty appeals cost more than maintaining a life without parole convict is not debatable. That is only one point of fact within the issue of the death penalty. There are others. Each point supports the opinion that death penalties should be struck down. |
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Posted by TonyG on Thu May 23 19:31:18 2013, in response to Decision May Have Been Made (was: Should Jodi Aries Die?), posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 19:21:13 2013. 92.3 KTAR has just reported that there will not be a decision made today |
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Posted by TonyG on Thu May 23 19:32:27 2013, in response to Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 02:07:13 2013. No.I have a philosophical disagreement with the death penalty. Two wrongs never make a right. It was wrong for her to kill Travis Alexander. It will be wrong for the state to kill Jodi Arias. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 19:35:56 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by AlM on Thu May 23 19:28:44 2013. That's your interpretation. It certainly is not mine. Opinion stands. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu May 23 19:41:04 2013, in response to Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 23 02:07:13 2013. The death Penalty is wrong. Pure and simple. No one has the right to take the life of another human being, regardless of circumstance. Case closed |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu May 23 19:47:59 2013, in response to Re: Should Jodi Aries Die?, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu May 23 09:30:21 2013. Stop parroting luch the douche |
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