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Posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 19 10:44:59 2005 Does anyone know about CDTA if so why are all the LFS Buses in Albany and the O6's going to Albany and Schenectady. Also this is to that post about CDTA with Orion V's if you wer talking about buses 1001 and 1002 they are 1995's not 1992 and the last Gm Bus was 310 in Albany late 1991. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 19 10:53:15 2005, in response to CDTA, posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 19 10:44:59 2005. The SubTalker?/Chatter? CDTA is back! (I think) |
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Posted by BRT-The Untouchable on Fri Aug 19 11:14:43 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 19 10:53:15 2005. Yeah you just think, because this is actually a Valid Question with a good answer to a question that has been burning me.Don't start the drama if its not necessary. Trevor |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Aug 19 11:21:50 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 19 10:53:15 2005. Why don't you answer his question the same way whether he is actually the same CDTA or not?If you can't answer his question, then please leave him alone. |
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Posted by Motor coach industrieS on Fri Aug 19 11:59:53 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by BRT-The Untouchable on Fri Aug 19 11:14:43 2005. Great post! |
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Re: CDTA |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Aug 19 12:17:23 2005, in response to CDTA, posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 19 10:44:59 2005. The LFS's have been all hoarded at Albany Division for, of reasons known, their rehabbing/repainting which the infrastructure only exists at Albany Division. If it wasn't for the traffic jam known as the 55 I'd also say the higher ridership/level of service at Albany Division would also make sense but considering the 55 and express routes out of Schenectady Division (and the semi-suburban LFS's bought expressly for that route) it'd make little sense. Could this be a prepatory move for when new buses come in to put them in Schenectady for the 55/Express routes while Albany becomes an LFS stronghold?As for the O5's, even Orion's own builders lists show them as 1992's. If they were 1995's, CDTA would probably still be running them considering the 12-year rule. |
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Re: CDTA |
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Posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 19 12:30:53 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Aug 19 12:17:23 2005. Yes they are still running but the thing was even thou they are 1995's CDTA never got them till 2001 when all the 01's retired except 630 695 and 642. Also do you know when the CDTA Buses get maintenced and washed etc? Also to the other posts i am not who you think i know about the CDTA cause i moved here like 3 years ago from DC. |
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Re: CDTA |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Aug 19 12:58:28 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 19 12:30:53 2005. If they are still running, I sure as heck never seem to see them around anymore. On one of the Yahoo groups, someone talked about how they BOUGHT 1001 at auction nearly a year ago. As I said, even Orion's own builder lists state they were delivered in early 1992.As for the O1's, almost all of the 300 series (1989 and 1991) were running until last summer and a fair amount of 600's still plowed the streets until CDTA retired all 40' high floor buses in June 2004. The hub for maintnence is Albany Division (though some things are outsourced) and as far as I know all 3 divisions have bus washes. Now stop assuming stuff that is not true. |
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Re: CDTA |
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Posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 19 14:06:33 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Aug 19 12:58:28 2005. Ok all i know is that 1001 and 1002 run on the 13 and 18 routes only. My question was do you know when buses get washed and inspected etc like everyday uhhh every week i don't know do you. Also why do i see CDTA buses at like a garafe off of exit 4 of the northway. |
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Posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 19 14:08:20 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Aug 19 12:58:28 2005. Also do you know about the old old 100's series and 200 and 700's series Orions 1. |
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Posted by vengence on Fri Aug 19 18:51:41 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by BRT-The Untouchable on Fri Aug 19 11:14:43 2005. Well..are the Orions06 and LFS buses only based in Albany/Sch'dy now?I went home not too long ago..and seen them all over the place....so I don't know about this.... Both models were on the Albany Troy 22/24 route,90 Latham Colonie Center/Troy...10 Albany Crossgates...and so on. I don't get it. |
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Posted by vengence on Fri Aug 19 18:54:12 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 19 14:06:33 2005. Detroit Disel[spelling] has a shop located there.I use to pass by that area almost everyday. it's also the airport road so you'll see alot of traffic. Where are you exactly..still in south Troy? |
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Re: CDTA |
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Posted by vengence on Fri Aug 19 18:59:40 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Aug 19 12:17:23 2005. 55..LOL...You don't know how much I hate that road. It's SO bad during peak peiods...that I use to take I-90 to aviod it. while 90 had it's problems..it was far better than Central Ave/State st...! Oh..I did see a unusual number of LFS buses in Albany..with more 06's traveling on the RENNS. TROY buses... Why is that? |
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Posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 19 19:28:19 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by vengence on Fri Aug 19 18:59:40 2005. Yea but theres only 28 06's in Albany and the entire fleet of Lfs are all in Albany. Also why are someimtes buses at that diesel place then also theres not just buses either. Also do you revall the Fleet numbers of them buses u saw. I recall Albany LFS 9937 in Troy for only one week. |
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Posted by vengence on Fri Aug 19 19:37:39 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 19 19:28:19 2005. It's a Detroit Dieseil shop that CDTA uses from time to time.I driven past there a few times when I had to get off the Northway because of traffic jams on the way to Colonie Center.I don't copy fleet numbers,for some reason. I just notice certain things..like the the LFS missing from the TROY division...especially from the 35x express bus to Empire State Plaza. They are using HARD SEAT O6's! |
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Posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 19 20:43:56 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by vengence on Fri Aug 19 19:37:39 2005. yea Troy used to have 9956 9957 9958 for the 35x and 90xState Campus now i see them on the 10 in Albany. |
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Posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 19 22:01:45 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 19 20:43:56 2005. Does anyone know how they run their buses like when do they wash their buses,when do they get inspected and when do they get maintenced and does anyone know the garage layout for Albany Division. |
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Re: CDTA |
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Posted by MrNYBusDriver on Fri Aug 19 22:33:39 2005, in response to CDTA, posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 19 10:44:59 2005. ok, here goes some explainations about CDTA...The Confussion Committee down there was hard at work thinking up ideas to get everyone confused and, it worked! First off... ALL 9900's are now assigned to Albany...ALL 9900's!!! LFS's and Nabi's! Troy and Schenectady got the 2000 series Orion VI's...any 9900's still there is because to fulfill the wrapper contracts...All the Soft seat Nova's 9951-9958 and 3001-3030 are in Albany! No more soft seats on the Troy or Schenectady Express routes (35X-55X). Why would you want the passengers to have soft seats on the highways? Why not use them on the ghetto runs so they can get ripped up!!! 630 and 642 have been removed from service, both sitting in the back yard, their fate unknown, in Albany along with 2018- #9 fire wreck All 180 series Orion II's are removed and all but 184 are gone. 184 is stripped for parts. 901-914 are removed from service after a scathing report in the Times Union about the buses with no a/c and a couple drivers being removed by ambulance from overheating... 921-925-their fate is growing closer to the scap pile...923 burned up a couple years ago, but, was retuned to service last year after being rebuilt in Canada. Fire wrecks so far: 2012, 2055, 9954, 9923, 2094, 923, 2020, 2071, 2018 1001 and 1002 both removed from service. I own 1001,shich is in storage and might go for sale soon, and 1002 went to NIMCO a year ago! ALL ORION I's are removed from serive and gone with a couple exceptions left in the bone yard at Albany for parts. 100's, 200's, 300's, 600's and 700's..gone 695 was destroyed in a terrible accident not long after it was purchased! All buses are being repainted...to look identical to SEPTA buses since the new boss came from SEPTA and likes the stripes on the roof. Right now, I'd say there's 15 repainted 9900 series LFS's (NO SUBURBAN's have been repainted yet, 1 3000 series repainted (3026), 20 repainted Orion VI's, 2 repainted NABI's, and the new STAR buses made by Star Trans 200-213 sport the new roof stripes, CDTA log on the back along with phone # and web site address No new bus orders have been talked about with the exception of more FORD/STAR Trans mini's and a few GMC/STAR Trans comming for rural routes. |
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Finally, someone sets the record straight! |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Aug 19 23:08:30 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by MrNYBusDriver on Fri Aug 19 22:33:39 2005. Knowing your ties to Troy Division, it's good to see someone who knows what they're doing take a stand on said annoying poster:). As for other news.* Consolidating all 9900's in Albany Division is the Upstate equal to LIB putting the 400's at Rockville Centre. The soft-seats a) were MADE for the 55/Express routes and b) as it is are in need of some TLC and soon seeing that some are falling apart. 9959 with its decrepit seats and 3008 with its marker grafitti are in grave need, among others. Also consider that the 55 with it's crunch loads is totally unsuitable for O6's; heck, at times it seems that artics would be the only solution for it (and the 11 and 86 when school is in session). * I thought a few more NABI's have been repainted besides the ones that you mention, I think I've seen about 5 with the far better new scheme. I take it the next overhauls are the As for new big buses, I was going through some back issues of the Capital District Business Review and have found some items of interest (for those without bizjournals.com accounts, registration is free and short) that makes me skeptical of the information you gave even though your ties there are stronger than any article. October 2001: CDTA forges an 8-bus contract with Orion for full-sized buses. Setember 2002:: CDTA gets $4.4 million for 9 "high-capicity buses" for Route 5 corridor. December 2002: CDTA gets $2 million for buses (though this just as much could have been for the Elf buses for STAR/International cutaways for ShuttleFly that are also LED sign tests...by the way, do the blind have trouble seeing them;). February 2003: $2.7 million for new buses and facilities, again internal overhauls and possibly part of it went towards the cutaways in comparision to the above. I understand it takes time for bus orders, but looking at the age of some of these items has me feeling skeptical. Is CDTA hording bus funding for 2008 (when the earliest O6's hit retirement) or another time? Is something else at play in which funding for buses that has existed for years is going unused? Given that the O1's still haven't been replaced (nor have the lost O6's and LFS's) and parts of the fleet need overhaul badly, wouldn't it make sense to do some buying of big buses as to not lead to problems in the 2010-2012 timeframe when almost all of the fleet reaches retirement? You probably know more than me on the matter though, thanks for clearing some stuff out (then again, didn't you once say that they had O7's and Opus's on order?) |
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Re: Finally, someone sets the record straight! |
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Posted by vengence on Sat Aug 20 00:38:09 2005, in response to Finally, someone sets the record straight!, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Aug 19 23:08:30 2005. What?Troy division has lost all the LFS and NABI's? What sense does that make? The 06's are HORRIBLE buses,and I can't imagine them being used on the 35X without the riders from the Atruim complaining up a storm...or 22 TROY ALBANY screaming about it. Un-freakin-believiable..... And this happen without ANYONE COMPLAINING. |
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Posted by vengence on Sat Aug 20 00:47:39 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by MrNYBusDriver on Fri Aug 19 22:33:39 2005. Unreal...They removed the LFS from Troy... I understand the 55 operates at crush loads..[I use to ride it all the time]..but To remove ALL the larger buses from TROY...? Didn't SOMEBODY say something? BITCH MOAN SCREAM about it? Im no big fan of the LFS..BUT I know for a fact that they carry much more that the even WORSE ORION 06... Try taking the one from Colonie Center on the 90 during peak period...You know how often the 90 runs,don't you? HOURLY...One TROY bus every hour from a busy shoping mall... What about Latham Circle Mall or Latham Farms...same trip..same bus. What about the 22? or 35x or even the 82? Theses buses often are crush loads during peak periods. Damn. |
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Re: Finally, someone sets the record straight! |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Sat Aug 20 08:49:29 2005, in response to Re: Finally, someone sets the record straight!, posted by vengence on Sat Aug 20 00:38:09 2005. Did Troy Division even have NABI's in the first place. Doesn't Troy Division use cutaways on some of their lightly used routes, I mean the route assignments are on their rollsigns. I know they had LFS's and they made sense in Troy Division, but I never recall seeing NABI's there given that they're a mainstay on several Albany Division routes (3, 4, 6, 9).As for complaints, I'm sure they're going in now but I see nothing that binds CDTA (or any other transit authority) from notifying riders of equipment changes/redistrubution in advance. If there was you'd have seen riots years ago in many other cities. The inevitable Times-Union complaint letter awaits, in a town where people write in regarding how a TV station is hurting itself anything is possible. |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Sat Aug 20 08:59:16 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by vengence on Sat Aug 20 00:47:39 2005. As I mentioned before, no transit authority has a responsibility to inform their customers of rolling stock changes in advance. Such downgrades have happened before and will always happen; I know the O6 is a poor bus and the downgrade is a poor move but worse has happened in other cities. I bet the complaints are coming in now and that some action will be taken at some time or another.The 90 is a mixed bag. During nights it can get packed, when UAlbany is in session it can get packed at the start/end; however, ride during the day and it's at best half full. Even when I was a regular rider of the 90 during my days at UAlbany, it very rarely had standees outside of the Collins Circle bunch (and in some regards the front part of the O6's are good for standees because it's longitudnal for the first 40% of the bus). Troy Division has no route that matches the 55 for high-level ridership, distance, and crush loads for comparision. |
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Posted by BusRider on Sat Aug 20 10:14:11 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by MrNYBusDriver on Fri Aug 19 22:33:39 2005. THANKS A WHOLE LOT EVERYONE ITS A GREAT HELP FOR ALL THE POSTS. Also bus 9932 did have the new look but it went back to the normal what it is now look a week later. Buses 2094 was on run 8502 the whole week except Monday and Friday that was 2090 - Monday and 2082 - Friday and i saw 2019 about a week aho on the 22 i think. and 2071 was on the 85 once about a mounth ago. But what ever happened to 2093 in Troy to be honest i never saw it for about 2 years. Another thing does anyknow how many the 55,22,29,82,and 87 runs have. I know that the 24 6 total,80 7,84 1,85 6,89 1,and 90 6. Also on the 80 runs 8001 and 8003 do its normal run but at night how do they make it in time to do the old 8060 and 8061 run If you know. I REA;;Y THANK YOU ALL FOR THE POSTS. |
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Posted by BusRider on Sat Aug 20 11:03:29 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by vengence on Sat Aug 20 00:47:39 2005. To Vengence Post,I still see 9923,9924,and 9927 and 9924 does not have the wrap anymore. Also the 90 is every 50minutes now but its no help even the runs during midday is packed but the 800,850,940PM trips are not that packed. Not really 82 only mostly ran on the Orions except runs 8250 and 8260. |
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Re: Finally, someone sets the record straight! |
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Posted by vengence on Sat Aug 20 15:50:27 2005, in response to Re: Finally, someone sets the record straight!, posted by Scrabbleship on Sat Aug 20 08:49:29 2005. Yeah they had NABI's.You would see em on the Troy Cohoes run during the evening..84 during the day...along with a Cutaway...and some runs on the 24 south Troy RENN. Amtrak Albany. I just can't get past this one. The 06 is a horrible bus,plain and simple,[DEFINETLY the model type CDTA has with that dumb rear door]... This was a dumb move...and if I was still a regular rider..I wouldn't sit back a deal with it. |
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Posted by BusRider on Sat Aug 20 16:03:38 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by BusRider on Sat Aug 20 11:03:29 2005. Also does anyone have any old cdta bus pics. |
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Re: Finally, someone sets the record straight! |
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Posted by BusRider on Sat Aug 20 20:19:29 2005, in response to Re: Finally, someone sets the record straight!, posted by vengence on Sat Aug 20 15:50:27 2005. When did they have NABI the only bus i remember was 9970 and that was more then 1 year ago. |
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Re: Finally, someone sets the record straight! |
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Posted by BusRider on Sat Aug 20 20:21:33 2005, in response to Re: Finally, someone sets the record straight!, posted by vengence on Sat Aug 20 15:50:27 2005. When did they have NABI the only time i saw was bus 9970 and that was more then 1 year ago and that was on bus 85,86,87. Also what is a cutaway. |
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Re: CDTA |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Aug 20 22:47:12 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by BusRider on Sat Aug 20 16:03:38 2005. You guts are all bringing back memories for me. I used to live in Watervliet and work on Green Island in the early 60's. Does it still get down to minus 30 F in the winter up there?Chuck Greene |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Aug 20 23:12:29 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Aug 20 22:47:12 2005. You guys are all bringing back memories for me. I used to live in Watervliet and work on Green Island in the early 60's. Does it still get down to minus 30 F in the winter up there?Spelling error! |
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Posted by vengence on Sun Aug 21 02:43:45 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Aug 20 23:12:29 2005. LOL...Hasnt been THAT cold for awhile,man. BUT..I can say that it will come close to it,thats for sure. It got SOOO COLD one morning..[MINUS 12 WIND CHILL AT -24]that my car refused to start. REFUSED!It was SO COLD that NO BUSES were running...Nothing... It was a FORCED day off. I was happy. |
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Posted by BusRider on Sun Aug 21 10:43:24 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by vengence on Sun Aug 21 02:43:45 2005. Ihace some questions for anyone on here.1. When will the LFS's get back to its normal Depots? 2. How does the advertisement plan work like do they pick a random bus for a specific ad? 3. Also if you know can anyone tell me about the Block System and how it works. Thanks alot much thanked. |
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Re: CDTA |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Aug 21 22:15:24 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by vengence on Sun Aug 21 02:43:45 2005. I was off with the -30. It should have said - 20. My 1960 Chevy V-8always started but it quite an ordeal.I had a three speed on the column shift. Never put your parking brake on, just leave it in gear and park on a level surface. Depress the clutch , pump the gas pedal about 6 times, turn the key (remember the old automatic choke cars?). If the car started ,and mine did, use two hands to move the column shift lever to neutral. Slowly let the clutch out and let car run for at least two minutes. Now your rear axle grease is still like molasses, so when you drive off, it still feels crappy. After a while driving, your car warms up and runs better. I drove for Watervliet to Green Island 5X a week like this during the winter of 1960 & 1961. (Co-op job from Drexel University with Ford which used to be at the head of Green Island.) |
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Posted by vengence on Mon Aug 22 01:29:35 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Aug 21 22:15:24 2005. That sounds great...only problem was all my cars were automatic.In deep snows..I start the car off in low gear...to get it moving. But on THAT day...the car REFUSED..to move... Wouldn't even start. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 22 06:58:42 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by vengence on Mon Aug 22 01:29:35 2005. That's winter for you! It's a killer! |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Aug 26 16:15:45 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Aug 19 11:21:50 2005. Why don't you answer his question the same way whether he is actually the same CDTA or not?He didn't ask any questions. Questioned are generally punctuated with question marks, none of which appeared the original post. |
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Posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 26 17:53:17 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Aug 26 16:15:45 2005. I Come here to ask questions and i still get talked aoubt LOL. |
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Posted by vengence on Fri Aug 26 18:39:55 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 26 17:53:17 2005. Not too many people KNOW about CDTA here...Myself and a few other may..but thats it. So you got to patient for your answers, dude. |
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Posted by BusRider on Fri Aug 26 20:18:17 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by vengence on Fri Aug 26 18:39:55 2005. Your right i am sorry EVERYONE and the questions i was asking was mainly to you guys no offense cause i no you knew, at least most. |
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Re: CDTA |
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Posted by MrNYBusDriver2 on Wed Oct 12 15:04:18 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by MrNYBusDriver on Fri Aug 19 22:33:39 2005. "No new bus orders have been talked about with the exception of more FORD/STAR Trans mini's and a few GMC/STAR Trans comming for rural routes."I've just gotten some updates as far as whats headed this way to CDTA. To dispell some rumors, CDTA is NOT getting any new Orions! From what I am hearing there is a batch of Gillig Low Floors heading this way and at least 6 of them will be Hybrids. There is also an order for MCI 45 footers similar to MTA's. They will be painted in CDTA's new scheme (once they decide on a new logo and paint scheme-the currant repaints will be repainted again to reflect the new scheme) but they will be operated by Upstate Transit Inc. of Saratoga for use on their commuter runs from Saratoga to Albany. CDTA took ownership of all the County/State purchased MCI D4000's that Upstate had been using so they all now bear OFFICIAL NY Plates. There is also some Chevrolet/Star Trans Cut-aways heading to the area for use on rurals and Saratoga. Upstate Transit is now operating the Shuttle bus running between Guilderland and Colonie Center/Crossgates Mall and they are using a Thomas Transit 30 Foot bus they had owned thru Matthews Bus Sales (A division of Upstate Transit) on the run. 2 buses have been restroyed in the past year to fires, 2025 which burned up in front of WAL MART in Glenmont and is sitting in a scap metal yard in Green Island NY, and 2018 which burned up on CDTA property in Albany and is sitting about 50 feet from where it burned up. CDTA now has reversed their interest in saving any Orion 1's, with the last 2 remaining units, 630 and 642 sitting at the back of their property being striped for parts. CDTA's only 2 Orion 05's are history with me owning one, 1001 (the one with the DD 6V92 engine) and 1002 (the one with the Cummins L10 engine) going to NIMCO. Not far from my house, in the town of New Lebanon on Route 20, sits CDTA 230 (1971 Flxible 35 foot transit with A/C)which was Schenectady Transit 230, rusting away. Someone really needs to buy it and restore it! John in Nassau,(not county) NY |
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Re: CDTA |
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Posted by QM18Express on Wed Oct 12 16:32:35 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by MrNYBusDriver2 on Wed Oct 12 15:04:18 2005. Hey you got pics of that O5 #1001? |
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Posted by vengence on Wed Oct 12 19:45:59 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by MrNYBusDriver2 on Wed Oct 12 15:04:18 2005. Wow...so you got that 05 1001...Thats cool..! |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Oct 13 00:59:37 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by MrNYBusDriver2 on Wed Oct 12 15:04:18 2005. John, your posts are always insigtful and eye opening. Thanks. As for comments:Gillig or not, something to take the ease off of those O6's are grateful and their demonsration back in February on the fairly packed 11 proved their usefulness (not to mention it fills the hole the O1/O5 retirement and fleet losses made). Where they go is a good question: The hybrids would show their worth on the 55 (or any stop-and-go route), but would another fleet realignment take place when the inevitable mass retirement of the O6's is a few years off? [For those downstate missing the O6 HEV's: Try riding one with the original configuration, packed, at some off hour and get back to me. It's nothing more than a medium duty bus with heavy duty attributes and lacks in function what it's successor lacks (now) in style.] Those Upstate buses (Thomas 215) are making a long haul every day; one of the drivers of said bus commutes a good 50 miles from around Glens Falls. Even though it's a Thomas, it's still miles ahead from the first generation Ford cutaways that have been doing the Bug since Day One which raises two questions: Are the Bug/Fly worthy of medium-duty buses at this point and would it be CDTA's while to expand their operations in Saratoga County even if it was all under contract to Upstate. There's a huge, gaping, and growing hole beween Latham and Saratoga Springs in CDTA territory which is wide open for some form of transit even if it is hourly, daytime service and commuter runs which should be filled. |
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Posted by vengence on Thu Oct 13 03:23:28 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Oct 13 00:59:37 2005. Boy ..are you so right....There has been plenty of times when I've been in Saratoga...and wished there was a bus traveling to Albany outside of the rush period. As far as the 06's are concerned..they are HORRIBLE BUSES..just terrible...and I was mad as hell when CDTA purchased them... I rode them on the standing room only ..packed to the rimm..55 bus..rode on the 22..90. They CANNOT handle large croweds... Hopefully,the Advantage models will help ease this problem...and some of those larger buses such as the NOVA's can go BACK to TROY... |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Oct 13 08:50:11 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Oct 13 00:59:37 2005. So, regarding the Shuttle Bug/Fly, does this mean that Thomas buses are now doing all of those runs? (If so, where would I find them: running from Troy? I will probably go up there next month.) |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Oct 13 09:15:04 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Oct 13 08:50:11 2005. The Shuttle Fly is, at last check, still running the International cutaways with the LED test signs. The Shuttle Bug is running a Ford cutaway and a Thomas (the Thomas currently on the 20 Mall part of the route). Since the shuttles are route deviation services, I'd reccomend going around lunch and taking a break during the layover.Also, if you see LFS 9959 or 3024, don't get on. Schenectady Division really limped on maintnence when they had those buses and as they await overhaul exist as blights to the system (though it could also be seen as a vision of NYCDOT bought LFS's for the PBL's:p). |
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Posted by BusRider on Thu Oct 13 11:37:41 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by MrNYBusDriver2 on Wed Oct 12 15:04:18 2005. Do you know the fleet numbers to these new and upsoming buses. Also when they get the MCI are they running on the Express Buses. What is the new scheme going to be like anyone know. |
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Posted by BusRider on Thu Oct 13 11:39:46 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Oct 13 09:15:04 2005. Also what was wrong with 9959 and 3024. |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Oct 13 13:37:47 2005, in response to Re: CDTA, posted by BusRider on Thu Oct 13 11:37:41 2005. No, nobody knows the fleet numbers. Some ideas could be 06xx (a la the 99xx series), 400x (following the O5/06/2000 LFS formula), 600x (mix the above), or something even different.In theory, the MCI's would be meant more for the commuter lines from Saratoga County and elsewere than the Schenectady/Troy express lines when they're numbered into the system. Those lines may do well off with the return of (rehabbed) LFS semi-surburbans or one-door Advantage suburbans instead. As for the new scheme, no idea but click hereto get some idea of what they want. |
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