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[PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81
Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 12 16:45:39 2017 A brief study of the last remaining section of the Fulton St. el that stood until the line's reconstruction. Franklin Ave, looking toward Fulton St. Any input about those closed stairways ? Sept. 1980 Looking at the el from the Franklin Shuttle platform area. Aug. 8,1981 Underneath old Fulton looking toward Broadway Jct. Oct. 17,1981 Same as above image although upstairs. Don't know about this closed off area. Did it lead to a stairway that was removed years ago ? Oct. 17, 1981 This building must be from the old Kings County RR days, but still survived after the rest of the el was demolished. Oct. 17, 1981 Now it gets interesting. The thinner girders in the back are what's left of the Brighton-Franklin connection. Edward Luciano's train traveled over those girders and the Malbone St. wreck became infamous. Oct. 17, 1981 Another view of that building atop remnant of the Fulton St el. Notice the detail in the woodwork. This staircase was from the Fulton St. el and remained until the structure was razed. I was told that the reason for not demolishing this structure was for passengers leaving the Brighton-Franklin line could access the IND subway inbound station without crossing Fulton St. Oct. 17, 1981
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Posted by Mitch45* on Tue Dec 12 17:12:27 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 12 16:45:39 2017.* Nice photos, thanks!
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Posted by Elkeeper* on Tue Dec 12 17:38:20 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 12 16:45:39 2017.* I believe your 4th photo of that closed off platform was for the 1924 pedestrian overpass. It was built shortly after the track connection for Brighton trains was removed. The billboard faces east, so that would have been for people crossing over the tracks to go to/from the park Row bound el trains.
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Posted by Elkeeper* on Tue Dec 12 17:46:02 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Dec 12 17:38:20 2017.* One more thing- the Park Row bound (westbound) Fulton St el platform ended just east of Frankiln Ave.
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Posted by Dan* on Tue Dec 12 17:48:07 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 12 16:45:39 2017.* Thanks for posting. What was once a dangerous slum is now a trendy expensive area.
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Posted by 3-9* on Tue Dec 12 18:05:28 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 12 16:45:39 2017.* AWESOME! I've been looking for modern photos of the Fulton el remnants, since my pics (from my very first photo trip in the mid-'90s) were, um, lacking. pic #1: from what I can tell, wasn't the stairway closest to you the one that was closed? I vaguely remember going up the next set of stairs to get to the shuttle platform. As a trivia note, on the landing for the latter set, there was an abandoned(?) underpass to the old downtown Brighton platform, and a corresponding closed-off stair entrance. Many old features were never removed until demolition! pic #2,3: After (what seemed to me) a long period of not using the Franklin Ave shuttle until I was a high schooler ('78-'82), I remember that much of the Fulton remnant was still decked over with wood. When did they decide to cut back on the decking? As a side note, when I went then the tower next to the shuttle still left their window(s) open. When I went back in the '90s, the window(s) had thick sheets of plastic over them, presumably to stop bullets. :-S pic #4: by the mid-'90's, I'm not sure if the wooden planks were still there. pic #5,7: the building was still there in the mid-'90s but it was a lot more dilapidated. Thank you so much for posting these!
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Posted by Dave* on Tue Dec 12 18:11:30 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 12 16:45:39 2017.* Great stuff!
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Posted by 3-9* on Tue Dec 12 18:20:59 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Dec 12 17:46:02 2017.* Wasn't that house on Franklin Ave and part of the Fulton platform?
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue Dec 12 18:45:09 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 12 18:11:30 2017.* Thanks Dave. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue Dec 12 18:45:44 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Dan on Tue Dec 12 17:48:07 2017.* Thanks Dan. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue Dec 12 18:48:28 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by 3-9 on Tue Dec 12 18:05:28 2017.* Thanks 3-9. I don't any answers to your questions, but SLRT may have a answer about those stair cases in Pic #1. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Tue Dec 12 19:12:32 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 12 16:45:39 2017.* Much as I remember it when I first visited there in 1986. What a frightening experience that was.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue Dec 12 19:19:09 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Dec 12 17:38:20 2017.* Check out this photo from nycsubway.org Line: BMT Franklin...Location: Franklin Avenue... Car: BMT A/B-Type Standard... Photo by: Brian J. Cudahy... Date: 1955...Notes: Franklin Avenue; workers dismantle overpass that once crossed tracks of Fulton Street el..from nycsubway.org
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Posted by 3-9* on Tue Dec 12 19:40:28 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 12 19:12:32 2017.* Pretty much the reason my pics weren't so good in the '90s. :-S
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Tue Dec 12 19:42:25 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by 3-9 on Tue Dec 12 19:40:28 2017.* I made sure my walkman was hidden in my backpack. Only 2 lines scared the crap out of me in the 80's. One was the Franklin Ave shuttle. The other was the IRT on Livonia Ave. I rode that line once in 1987 and not again until a 2003 MOD fantrip.
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Posted by Elkeeper* on Tue Dec 12 20:29:15 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Dec 12 17:46:02 2017.* Check out nycsubway.com's photo 46926. It shows westbound platform segement of the Fulton el pedestrian overpass.
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Posted by MainR3664* on Tue Dec 12 20:35:06 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 12 16:45:39 2017.* Thanks!! I wish I'd known about this structure when it still existed...
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Tue Dec 12 20:51:44 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 12 19:42:25 2017.* I'll see and raise. Riding the J train thru Brooklyn in the early 80s around midnight. I knew the deal on what to expect on that line at that time of the night, so I sat in the car with the conductor. My fears were confirmed when the conductor locked himself in his cab!
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Posted by 3-9* on Tue Dec 12 20:54:45 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Dec 12 20:29:15 2017.* Link
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Posted by Elkeeper* on Tue Dec 12 21:06:26 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by 3-9 on Tue Dec 12 20:54:45 2017.* That's it! Look just to the right of the Park Row bound Green Hornet. That's what I'm talking about, minus the canopy.
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Posted by Elkeeper* on Tue Dec 12 21:08:34 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Dec 12 20:35:06 2017.* Thanks, Bill! I used to see this structure from Fulton Street, while riding the B-25 bus to/from downtown Brooklyn in the early 1960's!
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Posted by 3-9* on Tue Dec 12 21:16:10 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Dec 12 21:06:26 2017.* It does explain why the former platform narrows away from the building.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Tue Dec 12 21:34:28 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by 3-9 on Tue Dec 12 18:05:28 2017.* I remember using the shuttle with my friends during that same 78-82 era and seeing the wood plats. I also rememver getting the ticket to go downstairs, where in the street, we sold ours, then hopped the train again upstairs and got more tickets for the A train R40s to the rockaways.
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train* on Wed Dec 13 06:15:36 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 12 20:51:44 2017.* LOL.
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Posted by chicagomotorman* on Wed Dec 13 14:42:08 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 12 16:45:39 2017.* Why was did that remnant remain standing there so long? And what purpose did it serve?
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Posted by 3-9* on Wed Dec 13 15:25:50 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 13 14:42:08 2017.* It was still part of the active structure, so there may have been structural reasons, plus they still needed the space and stairs for people to get to the existing line. Lastly, they probably thought it was cheaper in the end to keep the remnant instead of demolishing it and building a new station.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Wed Dec 13 15:51:45 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 13 14:42:08 2017.* Why was did that remnant remain standing there so long? And what purpose did it serve? I was told that the reason for not demolishing this structure was for passengers leaving the Brighton-Franklin line could access the IND subway inbound station without crossing Fulton St. So basically this benefited crowds leaving a Brighton-Franklin train to use the structure to transfer to the Manhattan bound IND subway rather than cross Fulton St. on foot. Other than that, there was no other reason for keeping the structure up. Just passenger safety. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by MainR3664* on Wed Dec 13 16:40:52 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 13 15:51:45 2017.* Basically it was used as a passenger overpass. I guess it seemed cheaper to repurpose the existing structure than build a new bridge- as was eventually done in 1999.
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[PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Wed Dec 13 16:52:24 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 12 16:45:39 2017.* Unearthed some more treasures. Here's a better photo of that ancient staircase. The original Fulton St el staircase some forty years after the el's demise. August 18, 1981 The fare control area featuring newer type token booth. Tokens were still being used as well as paper transfer tickets. August 18, 1981 Assortment of paper ticket transfers
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Posted by 3-9* on Wed Dec 13 18:05:38 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 13 16:52:24 2017.* Thanks for the pics! I'm not 100% certain, but I think the roof over the staircase was removed by the '90s. At least, the top landing was no longer covered by the house's roof. The tower is somewhere to the right in the second pic, if I remember correctly. It would be inside the curve where the Brighton turned away from the Fulton. What I'm not sure is if it's in the pic - the structure on the right looks too new.
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Posted by MainR3664* on Wed Dec 13 18:23:12 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 13 16:52:24 2017.* Thank you. Looking at Pics 1 and 2, the fare control area doesn't look as deteriorated as I'd have expected. I have seen pictures of R27/30s at that station in 1981, with weeds growing on the unused northbound (Sands St/Park Row, actually) trackway...so I know it was horrible. But this immediate area looks better than I'd have thought.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Wed Dec 13 18:47:41 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by 3-9 on Wed Dec 13 18:05:38 2017.* Thanks for the pics! I'm not 100% certain, but I think the roof over the staircase was removed by the '90s. Your welcome, I don't recall the roof over the staircase being removed. In fact I believe that staircase was removed intact, not cut up and laying on the ground in a MOW yard by the Franklin Shuttle. IIRC, I have may seen it while riding by on the shuttle. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Wed Dec 13 19:02:30 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Dec 13 18:23:12 2017.* Thank you. Looking at Pics 1 and 2, the fare control area doesn't look as deteriorated as I'd have expected. That was 1981, years later, it could only get worse being exposed to the elements. I have seen pictures of R27/30s at that station in 1981, with weeds growing on the unused northbound (Sands St/Park Row, actually) trackway...so I know it was horrible. But this immediate area looks better than I'd have thought. That wooden platform burned up, most possibly caused by arson. When the debris was removed, I remember see the original track, minus third rail that was not seen for many years. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Wed Dec 13 19:03:05 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Dec 13 18:23:12 2017.* Thank you. Looking at Pics 1 and 2, the fare control area doesn't look as deteriorated as I'd have expected. That was 1981, years later, it could only get worse being exposed to the elements. I have seen pictures of R27/30s at that station in 1981, with weeds growing on the unused northbound (Sands St/Park Row, actually) trackway...so I know it was horrible. But this immediate area looks better than I'd have thought. That wooden platform burned up, most possibly caused by arson. When the debris was removed, I remember seeing the original track, minus third rail that was not seen for many years. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by MainR3664* on Wed Dec 13 19:30:30 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 13 19:03:05 2017.* I've only seen the pics... but yes, I've even seen pics of that- tracks that'd been covered for 65-70 years or so...
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Posted by 3-9* on Wed Dec 13 20:18:44 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 13 19:02:30 2017.* I also remember seeing the original northbound track in the '90s. You could even see the track starting to curve towards the Fulton St el!
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Posted by 3-9* on Wed Dec 13 20:21:04 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Dec 13 18:23:12 2017.* I think they replaced the planks there as needed (unlike Dean St and others, ugh. Plywood doesn't cut it. :-(), but they removed all the rest that wasn't absolutely necessary.
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen* on Wed Dec 13 20:26:52 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 12 16:45:39 2017.* Used to drive under this on my way out to JFK via Atlantic Ave. five mornings a week. Thanks for the photos. Only went out on this structure a few times just to see the old Fulton el remnants. Not very safe then, but I was 18 y/o and brave.
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train* on Thu Dec 14 07:02:56 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 13 16:52:24 2017.* Damn these pictures brings back memories. I remember the first time I came here. 1982-was scared to death, Franklin & Fulton was a whole different ballgame back then. I had no clue this was waiting for me when came out of the Franklin Avenue station on the A.. When I climbed those raggedy steps to that wooden platform, that fear stayed downstairs and it was on LOL. I would ride that shuttle every chance I got. It's a shame they had to tear it down. That was true transit history. Thanks for posting.
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Posted by MainR3664* on Thu Dec 14 07:07:57 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by 3-9 on Wed Dec 13 20:21:04 2017.* It does look that way.
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Posted by MainR3664* on Thu Dec 14 07:13:02 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by 3-9 on Wed Dec 13 20:18:44 2017.* Oh man- I wish I'd have gone out there to see this!!! Actually, I wish the Fulton El had been modernized, the Ashland Place connection built, and all of it still in operation. But that's fantasy. These remnants, however, existed until I was in my 20s. Had I known of them, I'd have gone out there. I may not have gotten out of my car- but I'd still have gone there. On 7/3/89, I drove out looking to see if there were any remnants of the Lexington El. As we know, there are almost none, and certainly nothing that can be seen from a moving car. That day, I did get a good look at the Myrtle remnants (which I'd read about), and I discovered the remnants of the Broadway Ferry spur- of which I had not previously known.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Thu Dec 14 07:13:32 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Thu Dec 14 07:02:56 2017.* You're welcome Far Rock. Yes I had those same feelings too back in those days, growing a second pair of eyes in the back of my head ! The ERA had a "walking tour" of the Franklin Ave shuttle back then so with me and other railfans who attended, felt safety in numbers to get those shots at Franklin & Fulton. Otherwise, I wouldn't go there and whip out a camera by myself. That area really changed. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train* on Thu Dec 14 07:21:02 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Dec 14 07:13:32 2017.* You know you just answered my question to myself about those shots you took LOL. It took me years before I pulled anything out. Now everybody and their mother are taking pictures anywhere.
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Posted by Joe V* on Thu Dec 14 09:31:22 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Dec 14 07:13:02 2017.* There was a Lex el girder left within a building until a few years ago. The building was demolished, the girder was scrapped. There is still some irregularity in the girder pattern where the Lex el split off from the Bway el. The 3rd rail on all 3 tracks also break in them. I don't know if that is by Lex av or not.
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Posted by Dyre Dan* on Thu Dec 14 10:11:56 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 13 16:52:24 2017.* The tickets are interesting. They really referred to the shuttle as the "Brighton Line" right up until the end?
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Thu Dec 14 10:27:54 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 14 09:31:22 2017.* *The 3rd rail on all 3 tracks also break in them. I don't know if that is by Lex av or not.* Line: BMT Lexington Ave. El...Location: Lexington & Broadway... Car: BMT Elevated Gate Car... Collection of: Brian J. Cudahy...from nycsubway.org
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Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Thu Dec 14 13:18:59 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Dec 14 10:11:56 2017.* They really referred to the shuttle as the "Brighton Line" right up until the end? Well, since the shuttle was at one time the Brighton-Franklin Line via Fulton St. the name just transcended over the years and no one bothered to change it. On the Metrocard transfer, it clearly states, Franklin Ave shuttle
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Thu Dec 14 13:26:30 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Dec 14 10:27:54 2017.* I'll have a living room set, original recipe ... 😂😂😂
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Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Dec 14 13:39:35 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 14 09:31:22 2017.* The building at the SE corner of 110th and ~~Columbus~~ Indigenous People's Avenue is set back on a curve, obviously because of the old 9th Avenue El. However, the storefronts extend to the corner, and were probably built around the el columns. I wonder if there isn't a similarly trapped el column in that building.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81
Posted by Edwards!* on Thu Dec 14 13:39:35 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vol.2 - Fulton St. & Franklin Ave. 1980-81, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Thu Dec 14 07:02:56 2017.* Hah... Never had that problem. I went where ever I wanted to go. Folks use to say the same thing about Bay Ridge back then...but I still went there. The Only bad experience I ever had riding the rails was with a so called Police officer who was very sure I ran through the slam gate instead of paying the 60cents. Even the booth clerk told him I paid, that it was someone else, yet this asshole just knew for sure that it was me... Cause he "saw me through the hole in the door". Took the proper steps after he wasted time writing a ticket...got the clerk to back me up, even though the cop told him to stay out of it. Clerk even showed up on the day I had to show up at court and vouched for me! I didn't have to pay any fine.. And I filed a grievance suit... And was awarded.
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