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Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Oct 3 12:23:15 2015 Tuscarora Almanac - October 3 - 4, 1969 - The Book of Last RunsThis is the last night of operation of BRT Q-Types wooden elevated cars. It was also the last night of operation for the Myrtle Avenue El south of Broadway. The last train ran as an “MJ” Myrtle Avenue Local (BMT Rt. 11) and left Metropolitan Avenue at 11:38 PM, October 3. It left from Bridge-Jays Streets at 12:13 AM, October 4 and arrived back at Metropolitan Avenue at 12:43 AM. The consist was (S) 1619ABC, 1616 CBA. It was followed by an empty backup train with cars (S) 1613CBA, 1610 CBA. During the last rush hour these trains and two others were in operation. The consists of the other two trains was 1602CBA, 1611 CBA and 1620CBA,1629ABC. There were two post abandonment fan-trips, one on October 4 for the Electric Railroaders Association and another on October 5 for the Trolley Museum of New York. The consist on both trips was 1629ABC, 1616 CBA. Source: NYD Bulletin October, 1969 Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Oct 3 12:45:23 2015, in response to Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Oct 3 12:23:15 2015. This was not one of the bright spots for my 21st birthday on Oct 4th, 1969. Especially riding the "Q's' for the last time on Friday, the day before! |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Oct 3 14:36:01 2015, in response to Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Oct 3 12:23:15 2015. At the time the Myrtle shut sown the line between Bway and Bridge St was railroad NORTH of Bway, and now that the M goes the Ctl it is again like it should be!!!!! |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs |
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Posted by zac on Sat Oct 3 15:33:02 2015, in response to Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Oct 3 12:23:15 2015. I regret never riding on the Myrtle south of Bway. I only rode the Q cars one time, from Myrtle Wycoff to Met. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Oct 3 15:43:41 2015, in response to Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Oct 3 12:23:15 2015. and "we were there" on the final revenue trip and the ERA post revenue charter. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Oct 3 15:54:02 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Oct 3 15:43:41 2015. Our own Big Ed was the lucky motorman on the farewell run.And on that same date, the Mets were playing the Braves in the very first NLCS game. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sat Oct 3 16:37:53 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Oct 3 15:54:02 2015. That is correct. 1969 was the first year for divisional play in MLB. Of course everyone who was around then knows that the Mets won the World Series that year the last game being won at Shea on 10/16/69 which was a Thursday. I rode a 7 local train past the stadium long after the game ended and the conductor got a big cheer from everyone on the train for announcing Willets Point - Shea Stadium as the home of the world champion Mets. |
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Posted by vfrt on Sat Oct 3 17:34:22 2015, in response to Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Oct 3 12:23:15 2015. Nothing heavier than the 'Q' types was allowed on the El? |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Oct 3 17:44:09 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by vfrt on Sat Oct 3 17:34:22 2015. the signal dolly was allowed. |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Oct 3 17:50:34 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by vfrt on Sat Oct 3 17:34:22 2015. Nothing heavier than the 'Q' types was allowed on the El?South of Broadway no. I did hear that post abandonment a work train with a Lo-V rider car did make a trip down the line to pick up signal apparatus. This was many years ago and I cannot verify it. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Sat Oct 3 18:05:02 2015, in response to Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Oct 3 12:23:15 2015. The O scale 1616ABC is in my workshop right now getting scale power trucks under the A and C units, the B already has the Peckham trailers. Trying not to rush it too much for the Rutgers meet on Hallowe'en. If I am lucy with time, it will have proper sound installed too.These are MTH Q's modified with the lowered roof, additional details and road filth. I made a brass master of the IRT Composite sideframes these cars were outfitted with, and got them cast with Q-Car. Power by Q-car, as are the Peckhams and underbody parts. This set will be joined by 1629ABC shortly. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Sat Oct 3 18:06:50 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by jan k. lorenzen on Sat Oct 3 18:05:02 2015. lucy = luckyI am sorry I never got to ride the Myrtle el before its demise. Now I have pieces of it in my house. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Oct 3 18:53:47 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Oct 3 17:50:34 2015. There was talk of transferring some Lo-Vs to Myrtle circa 1960, but nothing ever came of it.As I have mentioned in several posts on the el, I was once told by a professional engineer that Myrtle Between Bway and Bridge Sts (railroad NORTH as I have also noted in many posts) could hold anything the NYCTS had including D types. The problem was the unique girder construction at the station entrances which would have required prohibitively expensive reconstruction to allow 10 ft wide cars on that portion of the structure. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Oct 3 18:55:24 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by jan k. lorenzen on Sat Oct 3 18:06:50 2015. I guess I am luckier than most since I, along with Big Ed, was a M/M on Myrtle during its last year. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Oct 3 19:42:51 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by murray1575 on Sat Oct 3 16:37:53 2015. I remember October 16, 1969 as though it were yesterday. I got home from school just in time to catch the ninth inning. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Oct 3 19:45:19 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by randyo on Sat Oct 3 18:55:24 2015. I remember catching a glimpse of the Q cars from the RFW of a Curly Joe and thinking, what is THAT?! |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Oct 3 19:55:23 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by randyo on Sat Oct 3 18:53:47 2015. Those older el pillars, south of B'way, looked like sticks, compared to rebuilt structures. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs |
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Posted by zac on Sat Oct 3 20:18:08 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by murray1575 on Sat Oct 3 16:37:53 2015. I was there for the 5th and final game!!!!I also saw The Beatles at Shea!!! Took the 7 both times, and countless other trips to see the Mets and Jets. |
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Posted by BMRR on Sat Oct 3 21:31:44 2015, in response to Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Oct 3 12:23:15 2015. Larry,Like it was yesterday.... Rode those "Q"s to high school. I was there for the last run to Jay St. The train was packed. I remember one guy with a tape recorder taping the sounds between the cars, might have been one of you guys.. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Oct 3 21:48:42 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Oct 3 19:42:51 2015. I was conveniently sick for Games 3-5 and watched every pitch :)(I probably could have gone to school on the 16th, but my mom and I agreed to give it one more day). Luckily, my grandmother was able to come over and stay with me while my mom was at work. A great time to live in NY :)   |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Oct 3 22:04:14 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Oct 3 21:48:42 2015. Cleon Jones supposedly said, "Come on down, baby, come on down," as he waited for Davey Johnson's game-ending fly ball to wind up in his glove. I still remember Curt Gowdy proclaiming, "The Mets are the world champions!" Then they cut to Gil Hodges in the dugout instead of the players rushing out to greet Jerry Koosman. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sat Oct 3 22:41:24 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Oct 3 22:04:14 2015. In those days we didn't have spoiled players and greedy agents who complain about teams which expect their pitchers to give their team a chance to win the game. The Arnines still ruled the IND for the most part although the Standards and Q cars and the Steinway Lo-V cars didn't finish out the year. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Oct 4 05:22:37 2015, in response to Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Oct 3 12:23:15 2015. It's obvious had the line continued it would have had to undergo an extensive rebuild to accommodate the heavier (and wider) BMT cars, possibly being rebuilt to a double-decked line with single tracks on each level (though with a few places where the tracks would be side-by-side so trains could cross over if necessary).At some point, the line likely would have been taken underground, either after Bridge-Jay or as I would do in a rebuild now after Navy Street with the intention of such joining the Montague line at Jay Street-Metrotech (formerly Lawrence Street), possibly as a revived (W) to Astoria on weekdays and to Whitehall Street on weekends and late nights. With such a re-done line, you could even do a rush-hour loop line in both directions via the Myrtle El, Montauge, Nassau Line, Willy B and Broadway-Brooklyn line where Myrtle Avenue is the sole terminal (which in this case could be a "Brown (W)"). |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Oct 4 08:34:54 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by BMRR on Sat Oct 3 21:31:44 2015. BMRR: When the Q's made their last runs I was in South Dakota helping Uncle Sam defend the US from an attack by those dastardly Canadians.I did make in back to New York a few week later and was visiting my old job when word came through that the Mets had won the World Series. I walked outside and there was an impromptu block party going on all over midtown. Ticker tape was streaming from the windows and total strangers were patting each other on the back. It was a great day to be in the city. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by northshore on Sun Oct 4 08:56:57 2015, in response to Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Oct 3 12:23:15 2015. Wasn't there a proposed order to purchase new cars for the Myrtle Av Line. They were to be lightweight cares. They looked similar to CTA el cars. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 4 09:48:00 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by murray1575 on Sat Oct 3 22:41:24 2015. The phaseout of the IND old timers began once the R-42s started to arrive. The BMT standards rode off into the sunset on August 4. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 4 09:50:28 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Oct 4 08:34:54 2015. A Madison Ave. bus driver yelled, "Everybody on for free!" once the final out was made. New York went absolutely bananas. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 4 09:50:50 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by northshore on Sun Oct 4 08:56:57 2015. Yes, the R-39s. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sun Oct 4 10:40:03 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 4 09:48:00 2015. That is true. Once the R-40s and R-42s arrived most of the newer Arnines were transferred to the BMT Eastern Division where they replaced all the remaining Standards, where they served until 3/31/77. Once the R-44s arrived all of the older Arnines started getting scrapped and the R-46s pushed the remaining ones onto the scrap lines as well. Of course the initial problems with the R-46 have been thoroughly discussed here but once through GOH they have been good riding reliable cars. Does anyone know what happened to the train that derailed (due to a broken rail) on the F in Queens? Did the cars get fixed or did they get scrapped? |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sun Oct 4 10:42:34 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 4 09:50:28 2015. I was riding an M6 bus on the way from 14th St. to midtown for a driver education class when the final out was made (I normally used the F but took the bus so I could listen on the radio). When we reached the Rockefeller Center area there was confetti being thrown out of the windows of many buildings. |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Oct 4 12:20:18 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by murray1575 on Sun Oct 4 10:40:03 2015. Does anyone know what happened to the train that derailed (due to a broken rail) on the F in Queens? Did the cars get fixed or did they get scrapped?Which derailment are you referring to? Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 4 13:48:30 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by murray1575 on Sun Oct 4 10:42:34 2015. I wonder if that Madison Ave driver still had a job the following day. |
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Posted by BMRR on Sun Oct 4 14:02:23 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Oct 4 08:34:54 2015. Yes, plenty of yellow tape from telex and TWX machines, alongwith building windows that opened made for a grand day for Mets fans. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Oct 4 14:03:05 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Oct 4 12:20:18 2015. I think he is referring to the one that happened recently (May 2m 2014) at 65th Street in Queens - involving R46 5742-43-45-44 and 5634-35-37-36.wayne |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Oct 4 14:38:49 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 4 13:48:30 2015. You mean Ralph Kramden? |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Sun Oct 4 15:38:42 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by randyo on Sat Oct 3 18:55:24 2015. Lucky man!The 1616ABC (and eventually 1629ABC) will be populated with scale folks who I know that were there. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 4 17:22:35 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by BMRR on Sun Oct 4 14:02:23 2015. I worked for Western Union for a short while on Hudson Street downtown where the big in and out stuff happened. Huge bins of tape that came out, and even bigger bins of tape full of what came in waiting to be latched down to a transmitter outbound. That paper tape was coated with oil, good thing we didn't smoke. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 4 17:25:14 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 4 09:50:50 2015. Behold! One of the Budd drawings for the R39 ...
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 4 18:11:28 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Oct 4 14:38:49 2015. Not exactly. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 4 18:33:53 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 4 17:25:14 2015. I’ve seen that set of drawings before, and I have wondered why the specs called for individual side windows instead of the R-36 style picture windows since by that time the picture window design was the standard for all future NYCTA equipment. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 4 18:47:30 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by randyo on Sun Oct 4 18:33:53 2015. That was Budd's submission, and given that air conditioning was on the way, I'm actually a bit surprised that a 39 order would still be using axiflows instead of following on the 38 order which had a few air conditioned units in the group.But then again, that's a patent drawing for the ventilation, had the final order been placed, they might have gone with the picture windows after all. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Oct 4 20:09:58 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Oct 3 19:45:19 2015. I remember the first time I saw a Q car.I rode my Schwinn 26" wheel with the spring shock absorbers down 69st from Woodside to Metropolitan Ave. made the right to the Station & saw two sets of Q's from the street, on each side of the wooden platform. I says to myself what the heck are those things with the ugly roofs, door extention slats & filthy windows. Found out much later why the cars looked that way & what a simple & durable car that was.They were long gone from the Flushing line before I arrived. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Oct 4 21:58:44 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 4 18:47:30 2015. I got the feeling they didn't want the extra weight. That's assuming that weight was the problem with the structure - otherwise, why, not just order some extra R-36s? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 4 22:17:11 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by 3-9 on Sun Oct 4 21:58:44 2015. Perhaps ... it also seems as though the design there was aluminum instead of stainless, but I'm merely guessing here. |
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Posted by BMRR on Mon Oct 5 00:09:16 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 4 17:22:35 2015. Never forgot the smell of that tape...60Hudson? |
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Posted by Stef on Mon Oct 5 00:17:46 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Oct 4 14:03:05 2015. 5634-35-37-36 are in service and have been over on the R Line....5742-43-45-44 are still at Coney Island as the body doctors finish the repairs. -Stef |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 5 00:27:57 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by BMRR on Mon Oct 5 00:09:16 2015. Very same one - 3rd floor, overnights doing all the stock transfers and international relay. Plus NYK relay since we were the hub for the east coast. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Oct 5 02:12:04 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by 3-9 on Sun Oct 4 21:58:44 2015. Weight probably was an issue. They probably would have needed to make these as light as possible for the line.These might also have been the cars used on the 3rd Avenue El had it remained into the 1960s while the line would have otherwise been undergoing a total rebuild (and by now the first of two as I suspect there would have been another rebuild after 9/11) in order to handle more heavier IRT cars. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 5 07:01:06 2015, in response to Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Oct 3 12:23:15 2015. Very sad indeed. Today, that would be a most valuable service. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 5 07:05:13 2015, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - October 3-4, 1969 - The Book of Last Runs, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Oct 3 17:50:34 2015. Thank you for this tidbit.. I know that work trains ran on the (Bronx) 3rd Ave El post-abandonment. I've wondered the same thing about the Myrtle and the Jamaica (past 121 and past Queens Boulevard) |
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