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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 28 20:35:34 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 07:56:40 2015. Or they had family commitments that could not be adjusted (even for a blizzard) and had to be home. Not everyone can just stay at hotel like that.If they NEED to be at their desks in their office buildings and not from home as you claim, they'll find a way to get there without the subway running. the fallout could be WAY bigger than anyone thinks. And I might wake up tomorrow and the sky will be pink. I'll let you know how it turns out. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 28 20:35:49 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by JAzumah on Wed Jan 28 06:30:50 2015. Exactly |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 28 20:46:24 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 06:15:17 2015. They likely aren't spending much time doing that because as it has already been explained to you, no such legal statute exists. Posting it over and over again doesn't change that fact. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 28 20:47:47 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 14:08:30 2015. YEARS as you call it is an eternity in politics. By then, everyone will have forgotten this. As it is, hardly anyone is thinking about it. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 28 20:50:05 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 03:58:39 2015. 5 or 9 years is an eternity in politics. What Cuomo did this week will be a forgotten memory by yesterday. |
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Posted by merrick1 on Wed Jan 28 20:58:38 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 07:56:40 2015. People in those kinds of jobs have live-in nannies to take care of their family commitments. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:00:41 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by merrick1 on Wed Jan 28 20:58:38 2015. Maybe, however, the spouse might still insist on the worker coming home.I would not be surprised if some of those workers put up in hotels by Cuomo's order to shut down the lines leads to more than a few divorces because the spouse wants the worker in question home. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 28 21:03:43 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jan 28 18:50:34 2015. I'm sure that was part of the thinking |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:04:47 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 28 20:50:05 2015. Yes, by most, however.....If something had gone wrong, a rival candidate would use it in attack ads against Cuomo whether it be in a 2018 re-election bid for Governor and/or a 2020 or '24 Presidential bid. That is what Cuomo was likely afraid of, but instead, it backfired and a lot of people are STILL PO'ed at Cuomo over this. This may not be forgotten as easily as some think, especially by those who now may have to miss Super Bowl parties because they have to go into work to make up for the lost workday(s). If that happens, there could be some lawsuits (likely laughed out of court) by people who had their Super Bowl weekend "ruined" by Cuomo's decision. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:14:16 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 28 20:46:24 2015. Doesn't mean they won't try.Assuming they can't, they will find other ways to get back at Cuomo, and that most likely would be to fund campaigns for the House and Senate by Republican candidates on a far more ramped up basis to make it far more difficult for the Democrats to regain control of the House and Senate in 2016. I'm sure many Democrats right now are very worried about Wall Street doing just that because Cuomo violated Rule #1 of politics. Wall Street is STILL PO'ed and they will find a way to get back at Cuomo, even if not directly with the Deomcratic Party likely being punished for what Cuomo did. Given the worries many already have about the GOP trying to wreck the economy to keep their wealthy donors happy, it's why I can see the Democratic Party furious with Cuomo for perhaps inadvertently killing any chance they have of getting back both Legislative branches in 2016. My apologies for going off like that, but as a Democrat who is familiar with what has been going on in politics that I follow closely, I know many who follow more closely are very concerned about ANYTHING that can hurt the Dems in 2016. All you need to do is go through articles on various outlets to see some of the more outrageous views we have seen from the Republicans and why this level of concern. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:17:44 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by shiznit1987 on Wed Jan 28 09:25:00 2015. That was my original thought before I realized how bad Cuomo looked and others pointed out it was NOT the "Ambulance Chasers" who did it.As people noted elsewhere, it likely was Cuomo fearing the MTA would screw up with it making the national news the way the (A) train did in 2010 and torpedoing his political hopes that was why he did it, only to see it backfire and his now being slammed. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 28 21:22:48 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:04:47 2015. I doubt anyone is going to miss a Super Bowl party this weekend because the subway was closed a few days ago. Get real.Who exactly is PO'ed at Cuomo over this? They certainly aren't making themselves heard. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:38:58 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 28 21:22:48 2015. They were on Wall Street yesterday on CNBC. David Faber spoke for a lot of them when he BLASTED Cuomo TWICE. Quite a few others on Facebook and other places are also blasting Cuomo and are STILL PO'ed.We'll see soon enough. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 28 21:55:50 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Jan 27 22:27:17 2015. "... but as long as Cuomo thinks he can run for President in 2020 or '24, he likely will continue to do stuff like this."As it stands now, he has about as much chance of getting the nomination, no less elected president, as you do...& or me. He'll be lucky if he serves out his current term as Gov. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 28 22:01:09 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:38:58 2015. No, I don't think we'll be seeing anything at any time. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 22:44:44 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:38:58 2015. I'm a real AMerican and even I think criticism is stupid.Only real mistake made was not implementing a partial shutdown of subway. |
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Posted by localacrosstheplatform on Wed Jan 28 23:01:09 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:00:41 2015. I pray that I would not have a wife who was so inflexible. |
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Posted by localacrosstheplatform on Wed Jan 28 23:03:30 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:04:47 2015. I guarantee you that"People who angry because had to work on Super Bowl Sunday because Cuomo closed the subway that one time" is not nearly as big of a voter demographic as you think. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 28 23:06:01 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by localacrosstheplatform on Wed Jan 28 23:03:30 2015. Excellent post |
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Posted by localacrosstheplatform on Wed Jan 28 23:11:59 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:38:58 2015. As someone whose job involves watching a lot of CNBC, I can name about ten other stories yesterday that are more likely to move votes than this one. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Jan 29 01:27:36 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 17:15:38 2015. Worse than the economy is already? Did someone tell you this economy is good? When the unemployment rate falls because people have stopped looking for work, your economy is fried. I expect to see the Dow at 13,000-14,000 by the end of the year.Anyone who thinks there is a real economic recovery happening right now has a really good coke dealer. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Jan 29 01:28:30 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:38:58 2015. We may have our answer on this one. |
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Posted by TrAiN DuDe on Thu Jan 29 01:33:19 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by JAzumah on Thu Jan 29 01:27:36 2015. I agree with you totally. Labor Participation Rate is lower than the Carter years. (And Jimmy just smiles, knowing that he's off the hook) |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jan 29 07:30:13 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:14:16 2015. Lemme see....wrong wrong wrong wrong and wrong. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jan 29 07:31:34 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 28 22:01:09 2015. Right. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jan 29 07:32:27 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by localacrosstheplatform on Wed Jan 28 23:11:59 2015. Owned. And sorry to hear that that's part of your job. Hope it pays big bucks considering. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jan 29 07:33:03 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:38:58 2015. When we don't see, you'll leave this forum forever out of shame??? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jan 29 07:33:23 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by localacrosstheplatform on Wed Jan 28 23:03:30 2015. Yep |
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Posted by The silence on Thu Jan 29 08:01:32 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Jan 27 22:20:02 2015. Yes, you who has no idea how the 11th amendment works gets to tell the rest of is we don't understand politics... |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jan 29 13:07:32 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 19:29:38 2015. As Mentioned in another post, the problem with 9 Av LL is there are a couple of small areas in the 38 St Cut that are on solid ground and exposed to the elements so that trains probably couldn’t even make it to 9 Av even the under cover portion. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jan 29 14:14:44 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Jan 29 01:28:30 2015. No we don't |
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Posted by shiznit1987 on Thu Jan 29 18:06:31 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 28 21:17:44 2015. People in Kansas and Michigan could care less about the NYC subway system and frankly some commerical talking about trains in a blizzard would be seen as stupid and dumpster-divey. Cuomo has more than enough negitives to make whatever would've happened in the Blizzard-that-wasn't non-news even to the most amoral and desperate political operative.The MTA and advisors in Albany do know what thousands of slip-and-fall lawsuits would do, and this more than anything enters into the decision making calculus than anything. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Jan 29 23:04:16 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by shiznit1987 on Thu Jan 29 18:06:31 2015. No, but people in other states might very well care about that.And what happens if there had been slip-and-fall lawsuits from people who had to WALK to and/or from work because their employers made them come in shutdown or not? Many people were already at work when the shutdown was announced and could not leave before it shutdown in many cases. Sadly, we may have gotten to the point where it is CHEAPER to deal with slip-and-fall suits because of keeping the subways open than closing the subways and having Wall Street PO'ed at Cuomo or whoever is Governor and in this case the Democrats as a whole. It wouldn't surprise me if Democratic Party leaders behind closed doors scolded Cuomo over this and made it clear that Wall Street is too important to the national economy to piss off and unless it's a Sandy or Irene situation to NOT shut the subways down like that again. We may sadly be at the point where appeasing Wall Street comes first. It may take the MTA having to now stay open outside of an Irene/Sandy situation with it made clear it is ONLY being done to appease Wall Street and a catastrophe happening to change that. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Jan 29 23:23:49 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 28 20:47:47 2015. I'm only thinking about it cos I'm reading this thread.Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Jan 30 03:02:09 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 28 20:47:47 2015. They don't have to think about this:All you have to do is for example is remember Swift Boat was brought up against John Kerry in 2004. Swift Boat was over 30 years earlier, yet that was believed to have torpedoed his bid for the White House. Cuomo having a headline of a subway being stuck in 2015 would be long forgotten by 2020 or '24 (or even 2018 in a re-election bid for Governor), however, rival opponents who have smart people working behind them dig stuff up like that years later and it can come back to haunt him. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Jan 30 03:03:16 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 29 13:07:32 2015. I didn't realize that obviously.It's too bad, because otherwise, it could be used in an emergency. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Jan 30 03:04:33 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 28 21:55:50 2015. Oh I agree, but if he THINKS he can get that far, that is what matters in that regard. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Jan 30 03:05:18 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by localacrosstheplatform on Wed Jan 28 23:01:09 2015. +1 |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 30 08:47:23 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Jan 30 03:05:18 2015. Are you married? |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Jan 30 16:36:00 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 30 08:47:23 2015. I'm not and given how many marriages end in divorce now probably for the best. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Jan 30 16:36:47 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by localacrosstheplatform on Wed Jan 28 23:03:30 2015. Even I agree, but coupled with other groups it can add up. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jan 30 19:20:29 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Jan 30 03:02:09 2015. Vietnam was a national issue.Nobody cares outside of the tri-state areas if the subways don't run for a day. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 31 17:51:28 2015, in response to Re: Could the NYC Subway Shutdown have been politically motivated?, posted by Joe V on Fri Jan 30 19:20:29 2015. They SHOULD, but the way negative ads work these days, candidates would still attempt to use such. |
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