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Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 24 00:46:54 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Jan 24 00:32:47 2013. So what happened in Egypt and everywhere else that day then? Parties over it? Ah for the good old days when republican batshit almost made some sense if you were drunk. :) |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Jan 24 01:37:45 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 24 00:46:54 2013. Was Egypt also blamed by Obama and Hillary on a nefarious dark movie maker:-) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 24 01:58:52 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Jan 24 01:37:45 2013. 
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Jan 24 02:36:29 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 24 01:58:52 2013. Lol hardly up and ready for my drive into Manhattan for my 6 to 2 am yard! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 24 03:04:07 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 22:57:38 2013. They aren't police officers so why aim your wrath at them in this case? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 24 03:30:55 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by chud1 on Wed Jan 23 17:47:17 2013. Here's MY take on this whole thing. I'm going to assume that these security guards are Florida State Peace Officers in the performance of their duties. I could be wrong about that though.. I'm sure he has the legal right to take photos. I'm ALSO sure the guards damn well knew who he was and that he's a professional agitator also. He already has a pending lawsuit so that right there tells me that this guy is going to goat the guards into a confrontaion so it can be filmed and he can have yet ANOTHER suit on his hands.This guy's mindset is that he WANTS a confrontation. Why else would he do that for? He also weems like he just MIGHT have a screw loose. Anyway, if those guards are Peace Officers, they DO have the right to remove him from the platform SOLELY based on his demeanor, NOT for taking pics. He was drinking too which is indicative of his behavior. When they put his hands on them to escort him off the system, (notice they had NO problem with his friend who was also filming until the end?) HE flipped out and started flailing his hands and arms, thus leading to him being taken to the ground. The whole I-can't-breathe stuff was just for the cameras. If he can say it that clearly, he can breathe just fine... OK, flame away at how wrong I am.......................... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 24 03:41:14 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 24 03:30:55 2013. Not saying you're wrong here, but if you have a professional "agi-tater" on your hands, there's no better time to call in supervision pronto lest you own the outcome. Police 101 there, even for Pinkertons. Professionals know how to stand their ground, be courteous in spite of adversity and only take down idiots when they cross that well-defined line of "danger to the public or themselves."Sorry, but Keystone here ... professionals don't get trolled. They wait for the right moment, and take full advantage of it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 24 03:42:10 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Jan 24 02:36:29 2013. Don't make me break out that cup, yo. :) |
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Posted by chud1 on Thu Jan 24 04:15:56 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 23 18:08:11 2013. why, just ask if is allowed to film there. some places might not want people filming around da Metrorail.chud1 |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 24 04:16:45 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 24 03:41:14 2013. I agree, that's why I said the guards also knew damn well who he was. If I were them, I would have looked to the cameras and saw it was him and said to myself "fuck that nut, I'm staying right here in the office until he leaves".I think BOTH parties wanted this. |
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Posted by chud1 on Thu Jan 24 04:17:56 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by piyer on Wed Jan 23 18:24:16 2013. i understand, but just ask if its ok to film there. leave da camera but lower it.chud1 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 24 04:30:49 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 24 04:16:45 2013. Proper response though when spotting the loonie is to make the boss' life a living hell. It's what all that crap you take from them is for. THIW. :)But yeah ... end result of stupid = ka-ching. :( |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 06:36:18 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 24 03:30:55 2013. He has the right to film. Refusing to relinquish that right is not being an "agitator," nor is it "goading" anyone, and it's obvious they're kicking him out of the station for filming, not because of his "demeanor;" since they only approached him in the first place because he was filming.And they took a swing at the other guy, so it's not like they have no problem with him. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 07:21:41 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 23 23:46:27 2013. Yep you can say that! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 24 08:32:37 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 24 04:30:49 2013. The boss would have STILL gotten them involved and made all of them go to the plat and confront him. I would have just watched to see if he was gonna board a train. If he did, no harm, no foul. If he was just lingering around, then we would all take the walk out of the office.... |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 24 08:36:18 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 06:36:18 2013. I said they had no problem with the friend until the end, which THEN they did. He DOES have the right to film. No one's disputing that, BUT he was being "cute" about it and I truly believe he wanted a confrontation based on his demeanor. Yes, they initially DID approach him because he was filming. If I were them, once I realized I wasn't dealing with a 100% sane person, I would have stepped back and did/said nothing until I saw whether or not he DID board a train. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 24 08:51:48 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 21:03:37 2013. Do what you're told, not what's legal? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 24 08:52:22 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 20:56:54 2013. The guards could have just left him alone and allowed him to continue his lawful activity. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 24 08:52:36 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 23 23:11:29 2013. I would really love to see that. I'll even give you the quarter when you wake up. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 24 08:53:36 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 23 23:13:37 2013. That sounds like a threat, Adam. You feeling frisky today? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 24 08:53:39 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 23:08:06 2013. No, he was refusing to cooperate. I think that, given his past with these guards, he was expecting a confrontation. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 24 08:54:46 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by zuckie13 on Wed Jan 23 20:10:46 2013. He did not initiate the physical confrontation. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 24 08:55:11 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 23 23:19:39 2013. Are you attempting to infringe on my freedom of speech? Perhaps, adam, you'd like to personally escort me to the border. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 24 08:55:50 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 23 23:39:26 2013. It was your first encounter and you aren't actively trying to stop this. This guy is an activist. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 24 08:55:57 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 23 23:39:26 2013. Exactly |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Jan 24 09:26:30 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 23 23:39:26 2013. The thing is that you have the "I work for a transit agency" ace up your sleeve, which often gives a level of respect amongst other employees of transit. I'm not sure how it would have gone if you were just a civilian transit fan with no direct ties to transit.A friend of mine works for a local transit agency and records videos of a number of other transit properties in North America, and from time-to-time will use the fact that he's an employee of the agency to calm things down if a concerned employee tries to wrongfully restrict him from photographing the system. I'll always regret not standing up for myself and my photography rights. I was at the Rockville Metro Station, getting ready to photograph and ride one of the few remaining Flxible Metro E buses that was parked at the old T2 stand. With camera poised, I was being "polite" to let the driver adjust his mirrors and get out of the shot, when the driver questioned what I was photographing. "Oh, I'm just taking a picture of the bus" I replied politely. To which I got a stern, "You can't take pictures of the bus" reply. (Note that it is perfectly permissible to photograph the Metro and any public areas of each Metro facility.) Not wanting to get into further confrontation as I was hoping to ride the vehicle, I just moved on. Sadly, I would NEVER get the opportunity to photograph one of the Flxible Metro Es ever again, as they were retired. Therefore, I support guys like Carlos Miller who are willing to stand up and say "no" to what's wrong, even if they have to be forceful and even if they may get into trouble. If they had no direct chargeable offense for what Carlos was doing, then they shouldn't be able to fine him and they certainly should have let him travel home on what appears to be a ridiculously infrequent train. I wish I had such courage, but alas I don't at the moment. I also have to be careful about certain things I do with the law as I am a young black male, which unfortunately makes me a likely criminal/thug/troublemaker in way too many prejudiced eyes. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Thu Jan 24 09:30:15 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 24 08:51:48 2013. Like one's subordinates hanging one upside down from the wall of Jamaica Shops... |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 09:35:47 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 23 23:39:26 2013. I myself have NEVER had any issue shooting video or photographing anywhere I went. If an officer asks a question, what harm is it to cooperate?? Almost 10 out of 10, the officer will leave you alone and leave you to be as you were. I have been stopped and asked before, and yes I explain to them, and while never been asked to show what I have on my camera, I have done so on my own without anyone asking. If I am doing nothing wrong, what do I have to be combative about?? And in each instance, I have been left alone, with a Q&A from the officer(s) lasting no more than 2 minutes, 3 tops. And contrary to what has been thought, I rarely, if not ever, carry my work ID on me when I am off duty. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 09:37:38 2013, in response to Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 23 17:15:02 2013. Oh come on folks, all this guy does is provoke these guys. It seems he goes out of his way to provoke an incident. If photography is legal, as it has been mentioned here before, on MDT, he could have simply left, having the names and identities of the officers in question, and used this video as evidence that they are trying to enforce a policy that does not exist. He chose to provoke these guys by always being the wise ass that he comes off as every time he is in trouble with these guys.He causes the escalations, and it is clear. People like him and his behaviors are what give railfans a bad name. And at what point are either of these guys even remotely coming off as railfans??? They sure don't seem like any to me. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 09:41:00 2013, in response to Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 23 17:15:02 2013. Oh come on folks, all this guy does is provoke these guys. It seems he goes out of his way to provoke an incident. If photography is legal, as it has been mentioned here before, on MDT, he could have simply left, having the names and identities of the officers in question, and used this video as evidence that they are trying to enforce a policy that does not exist. He chose to provoke these guys by always being the wise ass that he comes off as every time he is in trouble with these guys.He causes the escalations, and it is clear. People like him and his behaviors are what give railfans a bad name. And at what point are either of these guys even remotely coming off as railfans??? They sure don't seem like any to me. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 09:44:54 2013, in response to Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 23 17:15:02 2013. Brotha man, you are in MIAMI!!! A city with LOTS of hot chicks and an amazing night life!!! You're telling me this guy truly has no life and truly nothing better to do than to go around the MDT system provoking 50-State Security guards???? WTF?!?!?!?!?! SMDH |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jan 24 09:58:54 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 09:37:38 2013. Accused of being drunk and to leave without a breathalizer ?That's brutality, and he should sew for that in addition for harassing him for taking pictures. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jan 24 10:14:20 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 23 23:31:00 2013. You got that one right! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 24 10:15:30 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 07:21:41 2013. That's one of my favorite words. :) |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jan 24 10:21:38 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 23:29:17 2013. These are not actual cops. They are hired security guards. No real policing authority. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jan 24 10:33:02 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Jan 24 09:26:30 2013. It seems that there is an attempt to over regulate and restrict lawful activities of Americans in general. Either with out legislation or on the fly by uneducated keepers of the peace.It seems the lawful get whipped for the crimes of criminals. This nation has a dark cloud on its horizon. The bus for Concord and Lexington is now boarding. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 24 10:44:45 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by chud1 on Wed Jan 23 17:47:17 2013. If people don't stand up for their rights, they effectively lose them. Free men should never feel the need to simply "do what they're told", when the ones doing the telling have no right to be doing such telling. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:03:04 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jan 24 10:33:02 2013. Well, it is MDT's responsibility to have the security firm's people attend a course or training session to where they are all informed, in great detail, that photography is legal and to decipher between what a hobbyist is and what someone who is looking to do harmful things. A hobbyist has nothing to hide, whereas someone looking to commit harmful actions and intentions would not try to make themselves and their actions detectable and known. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:07:03 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 24 10:44:45 2013. There is nothing wrong with standing up for ones' rights. But this guy always seems to have a seriously negative run-in with officials where the run of the mill railfan and rail photographer does not. And from the last well seen video of this guys' interactions with these security officials and even this one too, he clearly shoves and and provokes violent reactions. The last video he put out before this one, he took a swing at one of the officers.Again there are ways to deal with this constructively, and get positive results, rather than do how this guy does and seemingly go out of his way to provoke the officers. And damn man, dude is in a city with an amazing night life and TONS of hot women out and about........is this what he really chooses to do with his time at night in Miami?? Get a life, dude, that's what I'd tell him!! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:10:55 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Jan 24 09:26:30 2013. There is no guarantee that "the transit agency ace" will work. If someone who is misinformed is going to cause an issue, they are going to do so regardless.How you conduct yourself (aka cooperation) is the difference in being left alone, up to and including shooting away right in front of the police and them not saying a word, and one getting yoked up, cuffed and arrested and/or otherwise detained. Again, as much as I stand out and the places I have been shooting photos about the Tri-State Area, I have never had any issues, and again as I have staed before many times, I DO NOT carry my work ID, so I do not carry that "ace" in my hand when I play. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Jan 24 11:15:52 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 22:47:46 2013. Not saying he's right or wrong, but Miller has a history of provoking these guys. He's looking to cause trouble and get attention, not exercise his rights. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:16:12 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 23:07:25 2013. Trea·son [tree-zuhn] (noun)1. The offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign. 2. A violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state. 3. The betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery I think you need to review the definition of the word "Treason" as provided here before judging the situation. Hardly acts of treason, bro!! And again, this guy needs to seriously find better things to do with his time while out and about at night in Miami rather than go around the MDT system provoking security officers. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 24 11:16:58 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 23 20:58:44 2013. LOL nice pot stirring :)your pal, Fred |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Jan 24 11:17:56 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 22:53:56 2013. How many times do you have to be told? They are NOT cops! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:18:02 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Jan 24 11:15:52 2013. THANK YOU!!!! I-TOTALLY-AWTP!!!!Glad someone sees it!! And as I have stated several times here.......he is in Miami, a night, great night life and fine women!!! Find something better to do with his time than go out provoking 50-State security!!! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:18:55 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 22:53:56 2013. Dude, they are NOT cops, police or any form of governmental law enforcement official!! |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Jan 24 11:22:36 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 09:35:47 2013. Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal by the State of Illinois when a law prohibiting the public from recording police officers was overturned by the seventh circuit as unconstitutional. The first circuit similarly overturned a similar prohibition in Massachusetts. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:23:03 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 24 08:32:37 2013. This guy has a clear history of provoking these security officers. This kind of behavior is only going to make these guys more and more likely to act confrontational to even totally harmless railfans because when this guy keeps doing the things he does, what's to make these guys think the next few people with cameras aren't going to act the same if not worse? And I am still trying to figure out why he is being called a railfan photographer!! He isn't!! He is more like a kook trying to get attention or find some way to get money. |
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Posted by ebtmikado on Thu Jan 24 11:24:39 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 23 20:43:29 2013. farther. |
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Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:26:57 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Jan 24 11:22:36 2013. There should be no issue at filming them. Now if you are out shooting things like where they are patrolling in detail, locations of command posts, and specifically recording certain patrol and duty protocols without any real, logical, sensible reason as to why you're doing such, then I think a stop should be put to it. If you are recording them in a situation with a possible perp, like a confrontation like this or a traffic stop that seems heated, there should really be no issue at all. |
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