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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:27:24 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by ebtmikado on Thu Jan 24 11:24:39 2013. Welcome back!!! Been a while good buddy!! :-) |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Jan 24 11:29:44 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:03:04 2013. I highly agree! |
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Posted by ebtmikado on Thu Jan 24 11:37:22 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:27:24 2013. Thanks, Paul. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 24 11:41:30 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by ebtmikado on Thu Jan 24 11:24:39 2013. "Farther" is distance-based, generally. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:45:47 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by ebtmikado on Thu Jan 24 11:37:22 2013. You're welcome, good buddy!! And in this absence, I am sure you have TONS of photos to share, am I right??? :-) |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 12:19:55 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 24 08:53:36 2013. It's called "rhetoric," Steve.But I should have remembered you have trouble understanding non-literal statements given your history of emulating the symptoms of autism. I'll try to avoid using more complex language with you in the future. So, to translate my previous post into the sort of simplistic, literal language you're capable of understanding, I explained that your belief that Mr. Miller "provoked" this incident was delusional, by creating a similar example using identical logic but with you as the subject so as to help you understand the flaws in your reasoning by forcing you to imagine what would happen were you in his position. Unfortunately, you clearly aren't intelligent enough, rational enough, or coherent enough to understand logic so I suppose I'm wasting my time. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 12:36:34 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 09:37:38 2013. Oh come on folks, all this guy does is provoke these guys. It seems he goes out of his way to provoke an incident. If photography is legal, as it has been mentioned here before, on MDT, he could have simply left, having the names and identities of the officers in question, and used this video as evidence that they are trying to enforce a policy that does not exist.Look, Paul, I'm sure you mean well and everything but this strategy simply doesn't work. At first, I tried to be as deferential as I could— what the nutters would consider "polite." I offered ID on demand, answered every question, shut off the cameras, explained why I was there, what I was doing, what a railfan was, and when told photography was illegal, I apologised and moved on. The result? One cop kicked me out of a train station, one pair handcuffed me and deleted all my photos, and one searched through my pockets, examined every slip of paper therein, and quizzed me on their contents before ultimately telling me that they really wanted to arrest me, but unfortunately I hadn't actually done anything illegal. Success rate: 0 out of 3. Then I tried your strategy— do everything to deescalate the situation at the time, but get badge numbers and report them to the CCRB later. The result? I was kicked out of a train station, had photos deleted, and over a year later, the CCRB sent me a letter telling me that the cop had probably done something wrong, and so they were going to make a non-binding recommendation that the cop be sent back to the academy for a quick lesson on photography laws. Success rate: 0 out of 2. And Miller wouldn't even have gotten that; Miami has no civilian oversight. Ultimately I settled on Carlos Miller's strategy— keep the cameras rolling at all times, explain that photography is legal, don't relinquish any of my constitutional rights in the name of temporary convenience. The result? One cop stole my memory card, two kicked me out of the subway, but six backed down and left me alone— and those that didn't ultimately yielded monetary settlements for my trouble rather than mere pieces of paper with non-binding recommendations of wrist-slaps. Success rate: 6 out of 9 on the scene, 9 out of 9 overall. I don't see any point at which Carlos Miller causes any escalation— the cops approach him looking for a fight, he politely tells them he's heading home and photography is legal. When contradicted, they escalate the situation by ordering him to go downstairs; he politely explains he's waiting for the train and prefers not to, which is his right. They then physically assault him. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 12:43:49 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 24 08:36:18 2013. What, being cute is a crime in Florida? Yikes, I'd better not go there then! :)They approached him, they told him not to film, they told him to leave the station, they assaulted him. At no point did he provoke them, at no point did he escalate the situation, at no point did he give any indication that he was less than 100% sane. I'm not sure how you managed to read his mind and deduce that he wanted a confrontation, nor what's wrong with it if he did— if you just got a gun permit and were desperately hoping that someone would try to rob you so that you could use it, that doesn't make the robber any less of a criminal, nor does it make his attempted robbery somehow your fault. And if I were one of those guards, I wouldn't bother looking up from my newspaper and/or phone when someone reported a photographer on the platform, so there's always that. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 13:15:55 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Jan 24 09:26:30 2013. The thing is that you have the "I work for a transit agency" ace up your sleeve, which often gives a level of respect amongst other employees of transitThose Guys didn't work for transit they was Rent a Cops.... It wouldn't have mattered anyway i feel, the Sgt seem to "understand" better than them anyway. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 13:17:10 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 09:35:47 2013. These guys wasn't Cops though Paul....Hence my word "uniform".... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 13:18:00 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Jan 24 11:15:52 2013. Not saying he's right or wrong, but Miller has a history of provoking these guys. He's looking to cause trouble and get attention, not exercise his rights.Exactly...... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 13:20:03 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 12:19:55 2013. But I should have remembered you have trouble understanding non-literal statements given your history of emulating the symptoms of autism.Hey man watch it you may throw a E-kick but making light of something like that isnt Cool "Adam"... My Niece has that chump... |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 14:02:43 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 13:20:03 2013. Making light of which? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 14:14:30 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 14:02:43 2013. Any jab with that word autism in it pisses me off...That goes with anybody here... Its just me. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jan 24 14:16:24 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:18:02 2013. Stop ragging on about his social life, he said he was going home from a bar where he was watching a football game. |
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Posted by seabeachexpress on Thu Jan 24 14:25:20 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 12:19:55 2013. Hey Buddy, my son is 22 and has a significant disability on the autism spectrum. Be careful what you post here. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 24 14:42:26 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:07:03 2013. You may well be right about this particular photographer. But chud1 was saying, apparently as a general rule for everyone, "if they tell u to turn it off, than do it." In other words, just submit to arbitrary claims of authority without objection. And I was saying that is not the best policy, either for oneself, or for the well-being of the country. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 24 14:44:10 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Jan 24 09:26:30 2013. I support Carlos and myself take no crap from anyone other than sworn police officers when I'm filming in a public area. I'm assertive and not abusive tho.Or they get filmed: You can hear the T/O yelling at me above the passing train noise. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 14:47:03 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by seabeachexpress on Thu Jan 24 14:25:20 2013. +1,000,000 |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 14:47:34 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 24 14:44:10 2013. He got his chops busted for that down here Fred! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 24 14:49:07 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 24 14:44:10 2013. I remember that one ... classic! :) |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 14:51:21 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 14:14:30 2013. Oh. Sorry.I made a point of saying "emulating the symptoms of autism," though. I figured if calling an adult "childish" isn't considered insulting to children then a similar principle would apply here. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 14:53:34 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 14:51:21 2013. I figured if calling an adult "childish" isn't considered insulting to children then a similar principle would apply here.Adults can act "childish"... They cant act "autistic" unless they have it.. So take your word games and run along Riverside drive with them ok kid? Or go watch Netflix... |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jan 24 15:24:13 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 23 20:58:44 2013. Typical response from the likes of you. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 15:26:41 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 14:53:34 2013. Hence I said "emulating the symptoms." But whatever, if you're offended then I apologise.And what does Riverside drive or Netflix have to do with it? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 15:31:03 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 15:26:41 2013. Hence I said "emulating the symptoms." But whatever, if you're offended then I apologise.Whatever then, accepted.. And what does Riverside drive or Netflix have to do with it? Ill let you figure that out.... BTW since you are in a apologetic mode you owe seabeachexpress one as well Or was you just focused on my reply? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jan 24 15:32:00 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 09:44:54 2013. Maybe he's not the type hot chicks go for. Hot chicks don't go for just anybody, you know. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 15:34:36 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by seabeachexpress on Thu Jan 24 14:25:20 2013. Sorry if I caused offence.Now let's see if Train Dude is willing to do the same. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 15:35:38 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 15:31:03 2013. One given to seabeachexpress. I'm still not certain about the Riverside drive or Netflix tho. |
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Posted by Nabinut on Thu Jan 24 16:27:19 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:23:03 2013. Believe it or not, he does do some good, despite his tactics. He has been confronted by 50 State security before, which led to a big protest, which the guards observed and knew who he was and his purpose.Bottom line is that the guards let his actions dictate their own and that is why this event happened the way it did. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 24 18:20:59 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 15:34:36 2013. No - I want you to beat me up and then call the police and say I provoked it. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jan 24 18:24:45 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Jan 24 11:17:56 2013. Then the REAL COPS should kick their asses. (justified) |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jan 24 18:25:08 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 11:18:55 2013. Powertrippers. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jan 24 18:26:48 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 12:36:34 2013. You are a true HERO. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jan 24 18:36:52 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 09:37:38 2013. Uh-huh |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jan 24 18:39:34 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jan 24 15:24:13 2013. Typical NO response from the likes of you |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 24 18:43:03 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jan 24 18:39:34 2013. You have no one to blame but yourself :-() |
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Posted by merrick1 on Thu Jan 24 19:35:25 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 13:18:00 2013. So do you think Rosa Parks should have given up her seat? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 19:39:11 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by merrick1 on Thu Jan 24 19:35:25 2013. Let me know if Rosa Parks had a history of doing that ok?Why you even made a silly analogy like that is anybodys guess... |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Jan 24 19:39:38 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by merrick1 on Thu Jan 24 19:35:25 2013. Let's not go down that route, please. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 19:59:17 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jan 24 14:16:24 2013. Blame the booze and football spectating stupidity!!! Yeah, ok!!!Come on, spare me the crap, this guy always seems to have a Jones for picking trouble with these guys. Maybe a clock to the noggin will do him some good. |
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Posted by merrick1 on Thu Jan 24 20:01:51 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 19:39:11 2013. According to this article she did have an previous issue with the same driver |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jan 24 20:04:02 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Jan 24 19:39:38 2013. Why not. You've got to laugh when the Nazis call themselves the party of freedom when they support brutality by authority figures every time. |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Jan 24 20:13:09 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jan 24 20:04:02 2013. Wrong forum, wrong place. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 20:16:50 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by merrick1 on Thu Jan 24 20:01:51 2013. Your analogy is still silly....Even with ONE ISSUE... When people start getting hanged, beaten,castrated,killed have dogs attack them for photographers rights let me know... Smdh at the silliness... |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jan 24 20:17:33 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Jan 24 20:13:09 2013. Liberals are for freedom, Nazis support brutal cops. I'm not going to let a Nazi tell me how to post. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 24 20:25:33 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by merrick1 on Thu Jan 24 19:35:25 2013. He was clearly looking to provoke an incident - period. He could have made the same point by stopping the filming, taking the names of the guards that were "violating his rights to photography". And then going to court and suing them for damages. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jan 24 23:01:35 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 24 13:17:10 2013. Never had any issue with any uniform!!! Be they wannabe cops or real ones!!! Flashlights or actual sidearms!!! |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 23:53:02 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 24 20:25:33 2013. And he wouldn't have won anything because he voluntarily stopped filming of his own accord. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 24 23:59:07 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 23:53:02 2013. "And he wouldn't have won anything because he voluntarily stopped filming of his own accord."Was that the object of the exercise in your view? To provoke an incident to win money? Wouldn't the greater good be served by a judges ruling that the photography was legal and put Miami rail and their security on notice. After all, if what Mr. Miller said was true, those buildings that he wanted to photograph would be there once the case was decided. |
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