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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 23 15:28:24 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jul 23 07:54:43 2012.

You can't extend the 4 Av Line along Fifth Av since 5 Av ends at 95 St. The line, however can be extended down FOURTH Av. The problem is not so much with storage as it is with maintenance and it's doubtful that an efficient maintenance facility could be built in the underground area as you describe it. As I mentioned in other posts, getting an R train from 95 St to CIY for either repairs or inspection requires a revers move on the N/B exp track at 36 St which often interferes with the express service N/O 36 St. Having the car mtce for the R fleet done at Jamaica Yd allows trains to be taken directly off the road at Ctl and sent right into the yard without having to interfere with the mainline.

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jul 23 16:17:04 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by randyo on Mon Jul 23 15:28:24 2012.

Actually, 4th Avenue Joins 5th Avenue at 95th Street, and 5th Avenue continues to the water. LION builds a six track 2000' stub which will hold 18 trains. Daily Inspections and cleaning can be done there, and units for weekly inspections can go OSS at 9th Avenue and then bingo to CI.

ROAR

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 23 17:15:02 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 22 21:05:24 2012.

Had they built a 2nd Avenue subway in the 1950's, the car that would have been in mass production for it would have been the R16.
Be careful what you wish for.

The TA (or B of T) tried Budd with the R11, then got cheap with ACF and st Louis.

Went back to Budd for the R32, then got cheap again, and bought St Loui's rust-buckets, 1,352 of them for the "B" Divsion. All but 113 are gone. 230 R32's still exist.

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 23 18:10:47 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jul 23 16:17:04 2012.

I live in Bay Ridge and FOURTH Av is what continues to the water and Fifth Av stops at 95 St. It doesn't make sense because Fourth Av actually bears slightly to the right at that point and follows the path of Fifth Av.

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 23 18:15:44 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 23 17:15:02 2012.

Good point, however don't just blame the car contract. Depending on when GE mad the switch from air cooled resistors to blower cooled resistors which were found on all GE contracts from the R-16 through 22 either an earlier R-16 would not have had the "improved" resistor cooling system or a later R-11 type might have suffered from the problem. If the B of T had let an earlier R-16 contract, it may very well have looked like a 60 ft X 10 Ft R-15.

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 23 18:16:26 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jul 23 16:17:04 2012.

I live in Bay Ridge and FOURTH Av is what continues to the water and Fifth Av stops at 95 St. It doesn't make sense because Fourth Av actually bears slightly to the right at that point and follows the path of Fifth Av.

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jul 23 20:46:02 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by randyo on Mon Jul 23 18:16:26 2012.

Strange.

Great view, though :)


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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44(Preservation?)

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jul 23 21:13:41 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44(Preservation?), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Jul 23 11:41:52 2012.

They didn't just stick a 5 in front of the number?

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jul 23 21:14:57 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Mr Railfan on Mon Jul 23 02:31:32 2012.

Can't wait! :-)

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jul 23 21:20:18 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by randyo on Mon Jul 23 15:08:54 2012.

Yeah, the ads are not too obtrusive, but it still takes a bit of getting used to in my case.

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44(Preservation?)

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Jul 23 21:49:33 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44(Preservation?), posted by 3-9 on Mon Jul 23 21:13:41 2012.

No, it's completely random. Whichever car came in first got the next highest number, starting with 5202.

wayne


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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 23 22:14:54 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Jul 23 11:21:00 2012.

They should be E-C, which they usually are.

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 23 22:31:34 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 23 22:14:54 2012.

Pity they weren't GE's. They'd have snuck a G in there too. :)

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by Ble-nimx on Tue Jul 24 11:02:35 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Caz on Sun Jul 15 19:49:05 2012.

You talking by Wilson Avenue? I'll have a look if I can leave early for work today. I'm surprised more scrapyards are taking old railcars with asbestos anymore unless scrap prices are really through the roof. Naporano gave up on them in the 90s.

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 24 19:18:10 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 23 22:31:34 2012.

I've heard an R-46 sound C-Ab. Nothing like standing on a platform and hearing door chimes a minor second off from the rest of the train. Makes me want run my tongue along my fillings to make sure they're still there.

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 24 19:21:29 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 24 19:18:10 2012.

Pity the PA1 through 4's are gone on PATH ... each car fired off separately and most of them were sadly out of tune. It was truly a ghastly cacophony of sound. :)

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jul 24 21:47:41 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 24 19:18:10 2012.

Meh. This is the gold standard in door-closing chimes: :)





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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jul 25 13:56:05 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 24 19:21:29 2012.

Still, those PA-1 through -3s were the last to have the "air brake sound" that the R-38 through 42's had when new.

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by Widecab5 on Tue Jul 31 11:46:54 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Widecab5 on Sun Jul 15 11:06:42 2012.

All:

After a lot of digging around, it was discovered that through July 31, 2012 some 60 ("6-0") R-44's have been removed from NYCT property.

Have car numbers but not the corresponding dates as yet. Still working on it.

One "A-B" set is stationed at Coney Island as a "Derailment Training Unit." This is 5244-5245. Perhaps they will survive.

A general question:

As we write these dispositions up for the "Bulletin" in the coming months, is there a preference for both OLD AND NEW numbers or is that too much clutter?

Thanks again to whomever got that random shot of 5417 way back and "Caz from Jersey"!

Regards,

George Chiasson Jr.
(Widecab5@aol.com)

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by CJ on Tue Jul 31 12:53:45 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Widecab5 on Tue Jul 31 11:46:54 2012.

Thank you so much for sharing this information with all of us.

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jul 31 15:40:18 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Widecab5 on Tue Jul 31 11:46:54 2012.

If you are going to list both R-44 road car numbers in the disposition stage, I would suggest to have it as first the NEW and OLD in that order, like as an example #5264 (ex-100).

-William A. Padron
["to 207 St/Manhtn"]


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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Tue Jul 31 17:06:17 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Widecab5 on Tue Jul 31 11:46:54 2012.

George: I believe that they did publish a list of the R-44 renumbering in the April 1993 issue of The Bulletin. If you are planning to do a post mortem on the fleet it would be nice to have both sets of numbers. Thank you again for all the great information that you have provided over the years.
Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 31 21:04:31 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Tue Jul 31 17:06:17 2012.

I had posted the renumbering for the R-44/R-46 on Dave's Subtalk site many years ago. AFAIK, it's still there.

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Jul 31 22:36:11 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 31 21:04:31 2012.

Ask and ye shall receive.
5202 318 8/7/1991 12/1/1972 March 2010

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5203 245 8/7/1991 8/7/1972 March 2010

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5204 166 8/14/1991 5/5/1972 March 2010

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5205 167 8/14/1991 5/5/1972 March 2010

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5206 324 8/3/1991 10/24/1972 May 2010

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5207 137 8/5/1991 3/10/1972 May 2010

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5208 150 8/5/1991 5/5/1972 May 2010

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5209 277 8/3/1991 9/14/1972 May 2010

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5210 348 9/3/1991 11/24/1972 June 2010

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5211 349 9/3/1991 11/30/1972 June 2010

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5212 378 9/3/1991 4/2/1973 June 2010 NYAB test air brakes

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5213 379 9/3/1991 4/2/1973 June 2010 NYAB test air brakes

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5214 316 9/4/1991 12/1/1972 April 2010

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5215 317 9/4/1991 12/1/1972 April 2010

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5216 382 9/4/1991 3/5/1973 April 2010 Abex test hydraulic brakes--removed 1979

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5217 383 9/4/1991 2/20/1973 April 2010 Abex test hydraulic brakes--removed 1979

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5218 336 9/17/1991 September 2010

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5219 209 9/17/1991 5/24/1972 September 2010 Experimental rubber stripping on floor

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5220 184 9/17/1991 5/22/1972 September 2010

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5221 337 9/17/1991 10/24/1972 September 2010

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5222 224 10/2/1991 7/19/1972 May 2010

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5223 143 10/2/1991 3/10/1972 May 2010

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5224 312 10/2/1991 12/1/1972 May 2010

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5225 313 10/2/1991 12/1/1972 May 2010

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5226 306 10/25/1991 11/30/1972 April 2010

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5227 307 10/25/1991 11/30/1972 April 2010

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5228 240 10/25/1991 8/4/1972 April 2010 Stainless steel body bands

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5229 161 10/25/1991 5/5/1972 April 2010 Stainless steel body bands

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5230 190 12/5/1991 6/16/1972 June 2010

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5231 361 12/4/1991 12/13/1972 June 2010

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5232 206 12/4/1991 7/7/1972 June 2010

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5233 207 12/4/1991 7/7/1972 June 2010

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5234 154 12/24/1991 3/21/1972 June 2010

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5235 145 12/24/1991 3/21/1972 June 2010

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5236 314 12/4/1991 12/1/1972 June 2010

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5237 141 12/24/1991 3/5/1972 June 2010

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5238 162 1/3/1992 5/10/1972 March 2010

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5239 151 1/3/1992 3/21/1972 March 2010

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5240 172 1/3/1992 6/16/1972 March 2010

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5241 155 9/4/1991 4/17/1972 March 2010

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5242 130 7/13/1992 2/28/1972 May 2010

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5243 251 1/15/1992 8/7/1972 May 2010

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5244 128 7/13/1992 2/28/1972 May 2010

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5245 211 1/15/1992 7/7/1972 May 2010

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5246 242 12/10/1992 8/4/1972 July 2010 Mates 5247-5337-5336

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5247 243 12/10/1992 8/4/1972 July 2010 Mates 5246-5337-5336

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5248 106 1/31/1992 11/13/1971 10/15/2004 5/18/2005 Scrapped

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5249 107 1/31/1992 12/7/1971 April 2010 Mates 5270-5251-5250

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5250 146 1/31/1992 4/17/1972 April 2010 Mates 5251-5249-5270

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5251 233 1/31/1992 7/31/1972 April 2010 Mates 5250-5249-5270

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5252 114 2/4/1992 10/25/1971 May 2010

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5253 115 2/4/1992 2/6/1973 May 2010 75' Test Shell

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5254 212 2/4/1992 7/7/1972 May 2010

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5255 173 2/4/1992 5/10/1972 May 2010

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5256 276 3/23/1992 9/14/1972 March 2010

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5257 325 3/23/1992 10/24/1972 March 2010

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5258 290 3/23/1992 10/9/1972 March 2010

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5259 133 3/24/1992 2/28/1972 March 2010

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5260 272 4/1/1992 9/21/1972 May 2010 Mates 5261-5277-5276

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5261 177 4/1/1992 5/10/1972 May 2010 Mates 5260-5277-5276

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5262 250 5/27/1992 8/7/1972 May 2010 Mates 5263-5303-5302

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5263 131 5/27/1992 2/28/1972 May 2010 Mates 5262-5303-5302

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5264 100 3/27/1992 2/28/1972 April 2010

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5265 159 3/23/1992 3/21/1972 April 2010

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5266 332 3/23/1992 10/4/1972 April 2010 Delivered with carpeting

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5267 301 3/23/1992 11/13/1972 April 2010

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5268 124 7/13/1992 3/10/1972 April 2010 Mates 5269-5271-5284

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5269 217 3/27/1992 7/19/1972 April 2010 Mates 5268-5271-5284

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5270 218 3/27/1992 7/19/1972 April 2010 Mates 5249-5251-5250

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5271 119 3/27/1992 11/30/1971 April 2010 Mates 5284-5269-5268

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5272 138 3/31/1992 3/5/1972 April 2010 Redelivered 3/19/1973 after repair to anticlimber

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5273 357 4/1/1992 11/30/1972 April 2010

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5274 112 4/10/1992 10/25/1971 April 2010

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5275 231 4/1/1992 7/31/1972 April 2010

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5276 158 9/30/1992 3/21/1972 May 2010 Mates 5277-5261-5260

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5277 113 4/1/1992 10/25/1971 May 2010 Mates 5276-5261-5260

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5278 142 4/9/1992 4/17/1972 April 2010

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5279 299 4/9/1992 11/6/1972 April 2010 Redlievered 2/20/1973 after repair to anticlimber

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5280 110 4/9/1992 10/1/1971 April 2010

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5281 221 4/9/1992 7/19/1972 April 2010

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5282 140 4/27/1992 3/10/1972 7/3/1997 Destroyed Collision 135th St

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5283 129 7/13/1992 2/28/1972 7/3/1997 O/S Collision 135th St

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5284 326 4/27/1992 11/6/1972 April 2010 Had test R-67 Kawasaki trucks; O/S Collision 135th St 7/3/97, Returned 10/15/2004, Mates 5271-5269-5268

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5285 201 4/30/1992 5/24/1972 7/3/1997 O/S Collision 135th St

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5286 300 4/30/1992 11/13/1972 June 2010

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5287 263 4/30/1992 8/28/1972 June 2010

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5288 346 4/30/1992 11/24/1972 June 2010

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5289 347 4/30/1992 11/24/1972 June 2010

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5290 104 5/11/1992 3/10/1972 December 2009

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5291 105 5/11/1991 11/13/1971 December 2009 Had test R-67 Nippon Trucks

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5292 108 5/11/1992 10/1/1971 December 2009

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5293 229 5/12/1992 7/31/1972 December 2009 Had been used in work service before GOH; repaired with parts from 109 and returned to service (NYD 11/88)

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5294 372 5/13/1992 3/19/1973 June 2010 NYAB test air brakes

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5295 373 5/13/1992 3/5/1973 June 2010 NYAB test air brakes

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5296 262 5/13/1992 8/28/1972 June 2010

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5297 319 5/13/1992 12/1/1972 June 2010

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5298 286 5/20/1992 10/9/1972 September 2010

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5299 163 5/22/1992 4/17/1972 September 2010

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5300 352 5/20/1992 11/30/1972 September 2010

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5301 275 5/20/1992 9/21/1972 September 2010

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5302 342 5/27/1992 10/24/1972 May 2010 Had test R-67 Nippon trucks; Mates 5303-5263-5262

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5303 343 5/27/1992 10/24/1972 May 2010 Mates 5302-5263-5262

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5304 208 6/8/1992 5/24/1972 April 2010 Experimental rubber stripping on floor

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5305 333 6/8/1992 10/4/1972 April 2010 Delivered with carpeting

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5306 384 6/8/1992 2/20/1973 April 2010 Abex test hydraulic brakes--removed 1979

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5307 127 7/13/1992 2/28/1972 April 2010

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5308 226 6/9/1992 7/19/1972 April 2010

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5309 101 6/9/1992 3/5/1972 April 2010

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5310 196 6/9/1992 6/28/1972 April 2010

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5311 147 6/2/1992 4/17/1972 April 2010

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5312 266 6/12/1992 8/28/1972 July 2010

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5313 287 6/12/1992 10/9/1972 July 2010

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5314 320 6/12/1992 12/1/1972 July 2010

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5315 321 6/12/1992 12/1/1972 July 2010

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5316 260 6/25/1992 8/28/1972 September 2010 Mates 5317-5405-5318

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5317 341 6/25/1992 11/24/1972 September 2010 Mates 5316-5405-5318

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5318 294 6/25/1992 11/6/1972 September 2010 Redlivered 3/5/1973 after repair to anticlimber; Mates 5405-5317-5316

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5319 295 6/25/1992 11/6/1972 1997 Revenue Inactive - Vandal Damage

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5320 148 6/25/1992 3/21/1972 September 2010

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5321 149 6/25/1992 4/17/1972 September 2010

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5322 216 6/25/1992 7/19/1972 September 2010

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5323 213 6/25/1992 7/7/1972 September 2010

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5324 152 7/2/1992 3/21/1972 March 2010

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5325 117 7/2/1992 10/25/1971 March 2010

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5326 246 7/2/1992 8/7/1972 March 2010

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5327 185 7/2/1992 5/22/1972 March 2010

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5328 356 7/13/1992 11/30/1972 May 2010

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5329 267 7/13/1992 8/28/1972 May 2010

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5330 136 7/13/1992 3/5/1972 May 2010

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5331 121 7/13/1992 3/10/1972 May 2010

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5332 134 7/20/1992 3/5/1972 March 2010

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5333 219 7/20/1992 7/19/1972 March 2010

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5334 220 7/20/1992 7/19/1972 March 2010

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5335 345 7/20/1992 11/24/1972 March 2010

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5336 160 12/10/1992 12/20/1971 July 2010 Mates 5337-5247-5246

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5337 111 12/10/1992 10/1/1971 July 2010 Mates 5336-5247-5246

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5338 118 12/10/1992 11/30/1971 May 2010

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5339 125 7/13/1992 12/20/1971 May 2010

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5340 122 7/13/1992 12/7/1971 May 2010

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5341 123 7/13/1992 12/14/1971 May 2010

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5342 328 6/18/1991 10/4/1972 December 2009 Delivered with carpeting

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5343 323 6/18/1991 12/1/1972 December 2009

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5344 368 6/18/1991 2/20/1973 December 2009 NYAB test air brakes

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5345 369 6/18/1991 2/20/1973 December 2009 NYAB test air brakes

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5346 186 6/18/1991 5/22/1972 June 2010

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5347 169 6/18/1991 5/10/1972 June 2010

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5348 280 6/18/1991 9/21/1972 June 2010

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5349 249 6/18/1991 8/7/1972 June 2010

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5350 188 7/22/1991 6/16/1972 June 2010

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5351 189 7/22/1991 6/16/1972 June 2010

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5352 344 7/22/1991 12/13/1972 June 2010

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5353 241 7/22/1991 8/4/1972 June 2010

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5354 202 7/22/1991 5/24/1972 June 2010

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5355 195 7/22/1991 6/28/1972 June 2010

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5356 264 7/22/1991 8/28/1972 June 2010

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5357 203 7/22/1991 5/24/1972 June 2010

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5358 304 8/3/1991 11/13/1972 June 2010

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5359 371 8/3/1991 2/20/1973 June 2010 NYAB test air brakes

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5360 214 8/3/1991 7/7/1972 June 2010

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5361 273 8/3/1991 9/21/1972 June 2010

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5362 366 9/3/1991 12/13/1972 May 2010

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5363 303 9/3/1991 11/13/1972 May 2010

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5364 302 9/3/1991 11/30/1972 May 2010

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5365 269 9/3/1991 9/14/1972 May 2010

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5366 268 9/23/1991 9/14/1972 June 2010

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5367 281 9/23/1991 9/21/1972 June 2010

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5368 284 9/23/1991 10/9/1972 June 2010

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5369 285 9/23/1991 10/9/1972 June 2010

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5370 322 10/3/1991 12/1/1972 June 2010

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5371 225 10/3/1991 7/19/1972 June 2010

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5372 170 10/3/1991 5/10/1972 June 2010

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5373 171 10/3/1991 6/16/1972 June 2010

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5374 192 10/19/1991 6/28/1972 June 2010

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5375 193 10/19/1991 6/28/1972 June 2010

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5376 252 10/19/1991 8/21/1972 June 2010

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5377 253 10/19/1991 8/21/1972 June 2010

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5378 292 10/23/1991 11/6/1972 9/16/2010 Last Train in Revenue Service

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5379 293 10/23/1991 11/6/1972 9/16/2010 Last Train in Revenue Service

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5380 258 10/23/1991 8/21/1972 9/16/2010 Last Train in Revenue Service

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5381 353 10/23/1991 11/30/1972 9/16/2010 Last Train in Revenue Service

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5382 350 10/31/1991 11/30/1972 September 2010

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5383 351 10/31/1991 11/30/1972 September 2010

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5384 194 10/31/1991 6/28/1972 September 2010

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5385 175 10/31/1991 5/10/1972 September 2010

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5386 254 11/27/1991 8/21/1972 September 2010

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5387 255 11/27/1991 8/21/1972 September 2010

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5388 204 11/27/1991 5/24/1972 September 2010

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5389 205 11/27/1991 5/24/1972 September 2010

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5390 308 11/29/1991 11/13/1972 June 2010

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5391 309 11/29/1991 11/13/1972 June 2010

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5392 358 11/29/1991 11/30/1972 June 2010

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5393 359 11/29/1991 11/30/1972 June 2010

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5394 360 12/3/1991 11/30/1972 June 2010

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5395 183 12/24/1991 5/22/1972 June 2010

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5396 338 12/24/1991 10/24/1972 June 2010

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5397 339 12/24/1991 10/24/1972 June 2010

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5398 228 12/31/1991 7/31/1972 September 2010

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5399 365 12/31/1991 12/13/1972 September 2010

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5400 180 12/31/1991 5/10/1972 September 2010

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5401 181 12/31/1991 5/22/1972 September 2010

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5402 244 1/31/1992 8/7/1972 4/9/1997 Revenue Inactive as of 4/9/97

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5403 247 1/31/1992 8/7/1972 September 2010 Mates 5404-5479-5478

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5404 370 1/31/1992 2/20/1973 September 2010 NYAB test air brakes; Mates 5303-5479-5478

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5405 305 1/31/1992 11/30/1972 September 2010 Mates 5318-5317-5316

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5406 380 2/29/1992 1/2/1973 September 2010 Abex test hydraulic brakes--removed 1979

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5407 381 2/29/1992 1/2/1973 September 2010 Abex test hydraulic brakes--removed 1979

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5408 164 2/29/1992 5/5/1972 September 2010

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5409 165 5/22/1992 5/5/1972 September 2010

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5410 126 7/13/1992 12/14/1971 June 2010

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5411 329 3/27/1992 10/4/1972 June 2010 Delivered with carpeting

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5412 116 3/27/1992 2/6/1973 June 2010 75' Test Shell

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5413 153 3/27/1992 4/17/1972 June 2010

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5414 278 4/17/1992 9/14/1972 September 2010

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5415 279 4/17/1992 9/14/1972 September 2010

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5416 210 4/17/1992 7/7/1972 September 2010

.
5417 289 4/17/1992 10/9/1972 September 2010

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5418 282 5/19/1992 9/21/1972 March 2010

.
5419 283 5/19/1992 9/21/1972 March 2010

.
5420 274 5/19/1992 9/21/1972 March 2010

.
5421 331 5/19/1992 10/4/1972 March 2010 Delivered with carpeting

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5422 222 5/27/1992 7/19/1972 September 2010

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5423 223 5/27/1992 7/19/1972 September 2010

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5424 296 5/27/1992 11/6/1972 September 2010 Redelivered 3/19/1973 after repair to anticlimber

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5425 297 5/27/1992 11/6/1972 September 2010 Redlivered 3/5/1973 after repair to anticlimber

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5426 374 6/10/1992 3/19/1973 9/16/2010 NYAB test air brakes, Last Train in Revenue Service

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5427 375 6/10/1992 3/19/1973 9/16/2010 NYAB test air brakes, Last Train in Revenue Service

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5428 310 6/10/1992 11/13/1972 9/16/2010 Last Train in Revenue Service

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5429 311 6/10/1992 11/13/1972 9/16/2010 Last Train in Revenue Service

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5430 168 7/8/1992 5/5/1972 June 2010

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5431 187 7/8/1992 5/22/1972 June 2010

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5432 362 7/8/1992 12/13/1972 June 2010

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5433 363 7/8/1992 12/13/1972 June 2010

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5434 232 7/16/1992 7/31/1972 June 2010

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5435 291 7/16/1992 10/9/1972 June 2010

.
5436 238 7/16/1992 8/4/1972 June 2010

.
5437 239 7/16/1992 8/4/1972 June 2010

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5438 198 8/9/1992 6/28/1972 March 2010

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5439 199 8/9/1992 6/28/1972 March 2010

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5440 340 8/9/1992 11/24/1972 March 2010

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5441 135 8/9/1992 3/10/1972 March 2010

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5442 102 8/24/1992 3/5/1972 May 2010

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5443 103 8/24/1992 3/5/1972 May 2010

.
5444 182 8/21/1992 5/22/1972 May 2010

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5445 191 12/5/1991 6/16/1972 May 2010

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5446 386 9/25/1992 3/19/1973 June 2010 Abex test hydraulic brakes--removed 1979

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5447 387 9/25/1992 3/19/1973 June 2010 Abex test hydraulic brakes--removed 1979

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5448 334 9/25/1992 10/4/1972 June 2010 Delivered with carpeting

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5449 335 9/25/1992 10/4/1972 June 2010 Delivered with carpeting

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5450 156 9/30/1992 4/17/1972 March 2010

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5451 157 9/30/1992 3/21/1972 March 2010

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5452 144 9/30/1992 4/17/1972 March 2010

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5453 139 10/6/1992 3/5/1972 March 2010

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5454 230 10/28/1992 7/31/1972 September 2010

.
5455 367 10/28/1992 12/13/1972 September 2010

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5456 178 10/28/1992 5/22/1972 September 2010

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5457 179 10/28/1992 6/16/1972 September 2010

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5458 376 11/4/1992 3/19/1973 September 2010 NYAB test air brakes

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5459 377 11/4/1992 3/19/1973 September 2010 NYAB test air brakes

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5460 354 11/4/1992 11/30/1972 September 2010

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5461 355 11/4/1992 11/30/1972 September 2010

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5462 200 11/23/1992 5/24/1972 September 2010

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5463 197 11/23/1992 6/28/1972 September 2010

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5464 236 11/23/1992 8/4/1972 September 2010

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5465 237 12/1/1992 8/4/1972 September 2010

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5466 364 12/28/1992 12/13/1972 June 2010

.
5467 327 12/28/1992 10/24/1972 June 2010

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5468 330 12/28/1992 10/4/1972 June 2010 Delivered with carpeting

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5469 259 12/28/1992 8/21/1972 June 2010

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5470 174 1/8/1993 6/16/1972 September 2010

.
5471 265 1/8/1993 8/28/1972 September 2010

.
5472 298 1/8/1993 11/6/1972 September 2010 Redlievered 2/20/1973 after repair to anticlimber

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5473 261 1/8/1993 8/28/1972 September 2010

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5474 234 1/15/1993 7/31/1972 July 2010

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5475 235 1/15/1993 7/31/1972 July 2010

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5476 270 1/15/1993 9/14/1972 July 2010

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5477 271 1/15/1993 9/14/1972 July 2010

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5478 256 1/29/1993 8/21/1972 September 2010 Mates 5479-5403-5404

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5479 257 1/29/1993 8/21/1972 September 2010 Mates 5478-5403-5404

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none 385 n/a 3/5/1973 Abex test hydraulic brakes--removed 1979; Revenue Storage - Not Overhauled

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none 288 n/a 10/9/1972 December 1974 Collision at 205th St December 1974; Not Overhauled - Revenue Storage

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none 176 n/a 5/10/1972 6/7/1989 Derailment 59th/CC 6/17/89; Revenue Inactive - 9/18/92

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none 215 n/a 7/7/1972 6/7/1989 Derailment 59th/CC 6/17/89; Revenue Inactive 9/18/92

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none 109 n/a 10/1/1971 February 1986 Fire 2/86; Not Overhauled - Revenue Storage

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none 120 n/a 2/28/1972 February 1986 Fire 2/86; Not Overhauled - Revenue Storage

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none 248 n/a 8/7/1972 February 1986 Fire 2/86; Not Overhauled Revenue Storage 2/4/86

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none 315 n/a 12/1/1972 Fire 207th Yard 1974; Not Overhauled - Revenue Storage

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none 227 n/a 7/19/1972 1974 Fire 207th Yard 1974; To NYFD Randall's Island;Not Overhauled - Storage

.
none 132 n/a 3/10/1972 Negative camber and buckled side sills; Not Overhauled - Revenue Storage

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Source: ERA Bulletin June 1974 by Alan Bromberger

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Source: ERA Bulletin June 1992

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Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44

Posted by randyo on Wed Aug 1 16:07:13 2012, in response to Re: (Belated) Requiem for the R-44, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Jul 31 22:36:11 2012.

I had never heard of any NYAB test trains. There was however in addition to the Abex Hydraulic train, a test train with Westcode brakes which may have been the reason why the 46s had Westcode brakes as delivered. Also, just prior to GOH circa 1983, there was a test train with WABCO RT-2 brakes with Cineston controllers. I never saw that train in service but when I was a trainmaster in early 1984, I saw it laid up out of service in 207 St Yd.

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