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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jun 28 16:35:11 2012, in response to Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jun 28 16:23:03 2012. Good luck. Sounds like a lot of fun. |
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Posted by chud1 on Thu Jun 28 16:36:24 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jun 28 16:35:11 2012. are u to take some pictures for us to see.chud1 |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 28 17:12:08 2012, in response to Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jun 28 16:23:03 2012. What is not so nice is that they did not have the presence of mind to so much withhold so mach as one of them from the hungry scrapper.Add that to the other extinctions off the top of my head: LIRR arch roof MP54, post-war production double-decker, Metro North St Louis 1000's, M-1A ? |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jun 28 21:03:27 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 28 17:12:08 2012. Reading THS bought 9001 at the 69k price...others are looking for a better deal from the scrap dealer. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jun 28 21:03:51 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by chud1 on Thu Jun 28 16:36:24 2012. I am sure many people will take pictures. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Thu Jun 28 22:46:49 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 28 17:12:08 2012. No. |
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Posted by WillD on Fri Jun 29 01:34:24 2012, in response to Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jun 28 16:23:03 2012. It's worth noting SEPTA will retain a full fleet of Silverliners after their ancient examples are retired. They're even adding new Silverliners which are a lot more railfan friendly than the units they replace.That, and some documents refer to the PATCO cars as 'Silverliners', and they're not really going anywhere. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Fri Jun 29 07:05:35 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jun 28 21:03:27 2012. Reading THS bought 9001 at the 69k price.Mike. Stop. This is FALSE. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 07:09:31 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliner II & III Trip, posted by WillD on Fri Jun 29 01:34:24 2012. These are special due to their link to the PRR and the pre-SEPTA commuter rail system. They are living history, the sort of thing normally only encountered in books and museums. It damn near blew my mind when I first started railfanning that the cars I read about in those black and white Pensy Power books were still out there hauling commuters every day because as far as I knew all that stuff in the books had been long ago vanished...replaced by Amtrak and Conrail and SEPTA. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 07:32:50 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by kp5308 on Fri Jun 29 07:05:35 2012. Bring it up with Railroad.net. It's been reported there by multiple people that 9001 was bought by some Reading group. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Fri Jun 29 07:36:11 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliner II & III Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 07:09:31 2012. Agree. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Fri Jun 29 08:56:19 2012, in response to Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jun 28 16:23:03 2012. Afternoon trips are to be on 1083/1084/1087/1088/1091.timetable |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jun 29 09:06:24 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by chuchubob on Fri Jun 29 08:56:19 2012. I'm living vicariously though you, Bob. |
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Posted by The Silence on Fri Jun 29 09:09:33 2012, in response to Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Jun 28 16:23:03 2012. yea so I guess than canciled one a while back was spilled milk... |
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Posted by kp5308 on Fri Jun 29 09:58:55 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 07:32:50 2012. It's been reported there by multiple people that 9001 was bought by some Reading group.Oh, NOW it is "some Reading group". Why not post a link to the thread "reporting" this so we can follow along? You would think RCT&HS would be soliciting donations if they got a 69K tab coming. Curiously nothing in the monthly newsletter has appeared nor does anything on the website . Unless there is some mysterious doner doing this it ain't happening. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 29 10:39:54 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliner II & III Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 07:09:31 2012. IAWTP |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 10:52:32 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by kp5308 on Fri Jun 29 09:58:55 2012. http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=91709&p=1012785&hilit=9001+saved#p1012785http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=76089&p=1054318&hilit=9001+saved#p1054318 An official in the Philly Chapter NRHS told me that there were plans moving forward to save a PRR II. Everything has been on the down low because of the hostility some SEPTA officials have towards preservation efforts and nobody wants to either queer a deal or over promise. Regarding Reading Technical the storage location has been identified as their facility in Reading. I don't know if they will own the car or even provide any of the funding to acquire it. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 10:54:11 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by The Silence on Fri Jun 29 09:09:33 2012. Not at all. Had the September trip gone off we may have been spared the totally uncool non-railfan crew provided on the May trip or at a minimum have had three farewell charters instead of two. |
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Posted by The Silence on Fri Jun 29 10:59:56 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 10:54:11 2012. it is; three trips? most equipment is LUCKY to get one. the Silverliners are not THAT important.dam things don't even have bathrooms... |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 29 11:12:35 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by The Silence on Fri Jun 29 10:59:56 2012. They make it on age and heritage. And, for such old equipment, they ride well too (though those seats are hard!). |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 29 11:13:05 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by chuchubob on Fri Jun 29 08:56:19 2012. Thanks, I'll try to make it! |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 12:04:17 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by The Silence on Fri Jun 29 10:59:56 2012. Didn't the ACMU's have like 4 or 5 farewell trips? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Jun 29 12:06:48 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 12:04:17 2012. only one, I am aware off, the one that went up New Haven line as far as Mount Vernon East |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 12:06:49 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 29 11:12:35 2012. Don't forget that these are 25Hz MU's. They aren't going to turn up on shortlines, they aren't going to ever be run in Holiday Nostalgia trains and they can't be sent to run at some trolley museum. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Fri Jun 29 12:10:02 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 10:52:32 2012. Thanks for posting the links. Their information implies that kp5308 is correct, which those of us who know him assumed from the beginning. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Jun 29 12:21:57 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by kp5308 on Fri Jun 29 09:58:55 2012. Who is t he scrap dealer in Newark mentioned in the article? |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 12:55:38 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by chuchubob on Fri Jun 29 12:10:02 2012. Correct in what way? It would be shocking if the Philly area railfan community fails to preserve at least one of these cars. Assuming that someone dropped the ball and no cars are being preserved where's the outrage? Where's the donation campaign there I can contribute money to? All I have heard are assurances that cars are going to be saved. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Fri Jun 29 12:58:27 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 12:55:38 2012. Oh come on, you can pony up $60,000 (the number that I heard) to buy one from the scrapper.Everybody assumes that Reading Tech wants 9001, which is true. Whether the ball is rolling in that direction or not remains to be seen. We can clear that up by asking a Reading Tech member in good standing who will be on the final trip this evening - Kevin Painter. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 29 13:18:29 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Jun 29 12:06:48 2012. I recall 2, a couple of years apart. I remember because I missed the first one. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Fri Jun 29 13:27:49 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Jun 29 12:21:57 2012. Dublin Scrap Metal |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 13:45:59 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by chuchubob on Fri Jun 29 12:58:27 2012. If there's a collection taken I'll gladly write a check, but nobody with sufficient organizational authority has either bothered to ask for one or raised sufficient alarm that such checks were needed. Either people don't care (nothing one can do about that), people are dropping the ball or people are handling it. I've been personally told by Philly NRHS folks (at the 2011 Rodeo) that it was being handled. If people are dropping the ball hopefully they will bother to let me and all the other check writers know before its too late. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 14:43:18 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by chuchubob on Fri Jun 29 12:58:27 2012. BTW here are some market prices for stainless steel railcars from Gateway Rail Services, most of which would probably sell for above scrap value seeing as how they aren't scrap. 60k for a Silverliner seems a bit much if that's what the scrap dealer wants for them. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jun 29 15:19:46 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by kp5308 on Fri Jun 29 09:58:55 2012. That reminds me that I've been meaning to head out there.So disappointed to learn that 9001 is likely to not be saved. Gotta love the trend of such railroad (and bus) history in this region being trashed as if it is nothing. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Jun 29 15:22:52 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 14:43:18 2012. don't forget a unpowered car has far less value, as it has no components that can be reused like trucks, traction motors, air brake valves and control stands etc etc. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jun 29 15:36:31 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Jun 29 15:22:52 2012. however, we have history of LIRR swapping an RDC for a 5db obs lounge (Amagansett) and C&NW trading several RDCs for 52 seat coaches. Admittedly this is ancient history, but in each case powered cars were swapped for non powered. Was there a cash premium paid? I have no evidence although I invite further details. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Fri Jun 29 16:05:06 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 13:45:59 2012. I've been personally told by Philly NRHS folks (at the 2011 Rodeo) that it was being handled.OK, then Philly NRHS is who this needs to be directed to. Write your check for whatever to them. You heard it yourself. If people are dropping the ball hopefully they will bother to let me and all the other check writers know before its too late. Then do it. Don't be bellyaching about "others". Pick up the ball Jersey Mike & take control of this. Otherwise STFU. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 29 16:16:07 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by kp5308 on Fri Jun 29 16:05:06 2012. pwnt. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 29 16:54:33 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jun 29 15:36:31 2012. That RDC had to be worth more than the B&O observation car, though not intrinsically to the LIRR who no longer had any use for 1 RDC, yet the Special Services Department in the LIRR ran in the black and would buy scrap cars for $5K. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 29 17:31:50 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by chuchubob on Fri Jun 29 13:27:49 2012. Naparona would be even tougher to deal with. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Jun 29 17:59:07 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 29 17:31:50 2012. Naporano |
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Posted by nasadowsk on Sat Jun 30 15:44:32 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliners Trip, posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 29 13:18:29 2012. I think it was three, because I was on the first one and the last one, and ISTR one in between those two |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Jun 30 19:16:46 2012, in response to Re: Details on The REAL Farewell to the Silverliner II & III Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 29 07:09:31 2012. IAWTP2 |
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