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Re: Nighttime Shot of 3rd Ave El at 67th Street (1953)

Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Thu Nov 30 18:14:30 2017, in response to Re: Nighttime Shot of 3rd Ave El at 67th Street (1953), posted by Elkeeper on Thu Nov 30 17:01:56 2017.


Hello ELKEEPER

Well, the BMT Q Types that ran on the 3rd Ave EL from April 1950 thru to Sept. 16, 1956 on the post 5-12-1955 operated Bronx remnant EL, lasted 13 years longer until October 1969 on the BMT Myrtle Ave EL (and likely could have lasted 5 or 10 years longer with regular upkeep & maintenance) -- so there is no reason why the MUDC's (mainly built in the same 1901-1910 era as the BU / Q's which were between 1901 and 1905) could have lasted longer.

Also, the 3rd Ave El had a major surplus of MUDC's (parts included) from the 6th, 9th and later the 2nd Ave EL's 1942 closing. Even gate car trains served the El as expresses (and some locals) until the Q's replaced the Composites between Jan 1950 and May 1950 -- and the few remaining gate car consists were scrapped after 1950 with the start of decimation of the lines' branches and service patterns starting in 1950. Leaving solely the Q's and MUDC's for all operations.

The EL structure was still mechanically sound -- remember that it had major rebuilding of many segments in the 1913-1916 years with Solid H Beam EL columns installed at the HUMP Express stations, solid plate track girders (not the earlier lattice style) where no express track existed previously, station platform extensions, and the newly added (and more modern designed) Hump and twin-Island same-level express stations in the 1913-1916 period -- those rebuilds being only 40 years old when the Manhattan El was demolished !

Also remember, the entire Bowery section of the EL and its Stations from E. 7th Street south to Chatham Square and City Hall was TOTALLY BUILT NEW between 1913 and 1916 and only 40 years old when demolished!

Its demise was a well crafted deceptive plan as most of us well know, and orchestrated to diminish ridership to the extent that major losses of revenue due to same were factored mainly "as the coverup" story for its neeed to be demolished -- as well as the focusing on the "ancient" level of the 1878-1880's built segments of original structures.

The BMT Myrtle Ave EL underwent a major upgrading (and stations modernized cosmetically) in the 1957-1959 period -- and yet they found the money for that, and then still used, again, 50 to 55 year old (then) wood El cars (Q Types) to maintain ALL service from May 1958 thru Oct. 1969 !!!!

regards - Joe F

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