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Re: Nighttime Shot of 3rd Ave El at 67th Street (1953)

Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sat Dec 2 07:22:57 2017, in response to Re: Nighttime Shot of 3rd Ave El at 67th Street (1953), posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Dec 2 07:05:34 2017.

Hello Larry !

YES -- that is correct.

I didn't mention it because the info I gave was specifically related only to the question of why the composites did not operate past May 1950 (and were even taken off the IRT POLO Grounds Shuttle around then) and were all scrapped.

The marker lights being relocated during and after Dec. 1949 on the Q Type Motor cars had nothing to do with that event or issue !

It actually was the 1878-1880's built Manhattan Local Stations whose station platform canopies overhung the edge of the station platforms, that caused the problem of striking the BMT division style outboard placed roof marker lights. It happened on the test train of Q Type cars on the Manhattan 3rd Ave EL in IIRC, Dec. 1949

If you recall, some of the oldest earliest BMT Wood EL gate cars when they were converted from Steam Loco hauled trailer cars to Motor Cars, in 1899 thru 1901 had their newly installed roof marker lights placed in the tradition IRT position, at the bottom of the higher clerestory roof. And they remained that was thru their service lives.

regards ! - Joe F

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