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Re: Culver Express

Posted by Michael549 on Thu Sep 18 01:28:28 2014, in response to Re: Culver Express, posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 20:13:07 2014.

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"The tracks do not permit the Coney Island train to run express on the Culver." "How do they not?"

Long Winded Explanation:

Years ago in the 1970's, there was rush hour express service on the Culver Line provided by "Coney Island" F-trains, and the G-train was extended rush hours to Church Avenue.

F-trains that originated at Coney Island on their way to Manhattan during the am-rush-hours, upon reaching the switches near the Kings Highway station could switched from the Manhattan-bound local track to the center middle express track. Those "Coney Island" F-trains would then run express on the middle track portion of the line, and upon reaching Church Avenue continue running as an express on the original IND portion of the F-train route. Over time, the last vestiges of that express run has been eliminated.

F-trains that originated at the Kings Highway or Avenue-X stations during the am-rush-hours could simply continue making all local stops on the journey to Manhattan. Then the Kings Highway station was a fairly versatile station, a kind of enhanced Parkchester-type setup, with track switches both fore and aft of the station platforms.

At some point in the 1990's, a track switch leading from the Manhattan-bound local track to the center middle-track was removed. This meant that the Kings Highway station still could "terminate and relay" Kings Highway local trains using the center track at the platform, and/or aft of the station, however it could not steer trains from Coney Island to the center-middle track. Trains from Coney Island have to remain on the Manhattan-bound local track.

Please note - that the Brooklyn-bound section of the Kings Highway station is still capable of steering Coney Island bound trains running on the center-middle track to the outside Coney Island bound local track. This can still be done both fore and aft of the station platforms. In essence, there is a track movement operation that can not be done in the am-rush hour direction, but that can be accomplished in the pm-rush-hour direction. Usually most folks involved in the discussion are concerned about the am-rush-hour pathways.

"Express on the Culver line" then becomes an interesting debate point, since it depends upon which section of the line one is talking about. There is the original IND portion of the F & G train route that has 4 tracks that has gained the name "Culver". Then there is the original 3-track Culver line that was created as part of the BRT/BMT system traveling over McDonald Avenue, that was joined to the IND in the 1950's allowing D-trains, and later F-trains to reach Coney Island.

Using the old configuration of the Kings Highway Station, the entire of F route from York Street to Coney Island (including the G-train portion) by the tracks is a rather capable pathway.

By the tracks it was very easy to create an operation where all F-trains use the express tracks between Jay Street and Church Avenue, where in the AM-Rush Hours - trains toward Manhattan from Coney Island use the center-middle track between Church Avenue and Kings Highway (old configuration), while trains that originate at Kings Highway make all local stops between Church Avenue and Kings Highway. In the pm-rush-hours, Coney Island bound F-trains would use the center-middle track to Kings Highway. (This could easily be called the "Culver Express".)

By the tracks it is very easy to create an operation where all F-trains use the express tracks between Jay Street and Church Avenue, with all trains making local stops from Church Avenue to either Coney Island or Kings Highway. (This could also easily be called the "Culver Express".)

By the tracks it is very easy to create an operation where only F-trains that travel to/from Coney Island use the express tracks between Jay Street and Church Avenue. Trains that originate or end at Kings Highway make all local stops between Jay Street and Kings Highway. (This could also easily be called the "Culver Express".)

Except for the current track switch issue at Kings Highway (the in-ability to steer Manhattan-bound trains from Coney Island to the center-middle track at the Kings Highway station) a variety of configurations could be created.

Mike


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