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Re: Culver Express

Posted by Michael549 on Tue Sep 23 12:13:37 2014, in response to Re: Culver Express, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Sep 23 09:33:43 2014.

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"That's what I suggested. I suggested operating a V train at 6 tph to supplement the Q on 2nd Ave, then run via 6th Ave Local and the Rutgers Tunnel. Once in Brooklyn, this V would run express from Jay to Church and then via the Culver el to CI. But I was told the problems would be too many trains on the 6th Ave Local (14 F + 8 M + 6 V), and that F line riders south of Church won't stand for 10-minute waits for their trains during rush hours. Not to mention the issues with relaying 600-foot long F trains at Church (I had suggested running the F local in Brooklyn to/from Church)."

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That is actually not a bad idea.

In the past I have proposed that the V-train become the Culver Express ending at Kings Highway, and keeping the F-train as it is currently. It becomes a win both ways - local folks get to keep their frequency of service, and folks who want an express get one with the V-train, considering the capabilities of the Kings Highway station.

I do not really believe that there are any issues with 600-foot trains at Church Avenue, regardless of the current short G-trains. Church Avenue is an original IND station, and I just can not see the planners/builders creating a terminal/layup area by design that is not capable of handling full length IND trains. The current shorter G-trains may provide a bit of flexibility that regular 600-foot trains may not, but that is whole different order from saying "not possible", especially considering that Church Avenue was the terminal for full-length A, E, D and F trains in times past.

Beyond the issues of the actual completion of the Second Avenue stubway, the switching between tracks (and among F & Q trains) to accomplish this route, and the fitting in of this V-train among the others on Sixth Avenue, is one simple question.

Does the MTA have the extra trains to create such a V-train route?

I believe that there were discussions on this forum about the re-configuring of the trains (new trains bought, old trains removed, trains allocated between what lines, etc).

Just some ideas.
Mike


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