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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 30 11:58:31 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by TonyG on Sat Jun 30 01:33:51 2012.

"If you call any of that stuff crazy than THEN your definition of sanity needs to be questioned."

That's a very self-serving remark. Mind you, I don't think that your "stuff" is crazy but I think that somehow referring to the governor's appearance as somehow relating to her qualifications is wrong-minded. But if you are going to be consistent, then you'd have to say that Janet Napolitano, Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton are all grossly incompetent, based on their looks, of course.


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Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 12:01:35 2012, in response to Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists, posted by DAND124 on Sat Jun 30 01:36:55 2012.

Uhhh, not quite. No leftist attends church with the regularity that Orwell did. You need to get your nose out of leftist sources that paint him as social-democratic.

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Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF

Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 30 12:02:33 2012, in response to Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 11:56:55 2012.




LOL

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 12:02:50 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by TonyG on Sat Jun 30 01:33:51 2012.

LOL!

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Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF

Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jun 30 12:08:23 2012, in response to Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 11:56:55 2012.

Negative...

No..

Nope..

Nada...

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Re: EVERYyear (2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 12:08:56 2012, in response to Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 30 12:02:33 2012.

Didn't know that memegenerator had a portrait of you on there. Awesome.

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Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF

Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jun 30 12:08:57 2012, in response to Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 30 12:02:33 2012.

LMBAO!!!!

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Re: EVERYyear (2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 12:09:41 2012, in response to Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF, posted by Railman718 on Sat Jun 30 12:08:23 2012.

You can't believe what he says. Everything he says on here is opposite of his true self. Don't be surprised to find that out . . .

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Re: EVERYyear (2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF

Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jun 30 12:11:52 2012, in response to Re: EVERYyear (2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 12:09:41 2012.

Hey Life is full of surprises..

I happen to like them...



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Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists

Posted by AlM on Sat Jun 30 12:11:55 2012, in response to Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 12:01:35 2012.

No leftist attends church with the regularity that Orwell did.

I can give you a whole bunch of counterexamples of people I know who go to church every week and are out and out socialists.

They're not communists - they believe in private property - but they do believe in extensive government ownership of the means of production.




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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by AlM on Sat Jun 30 12:15:20 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 30 11:50:17 2012.

I see your point. But to be put on a list because of failure of diligence while reading is pretty uninteresting.

He can't figure out that most of the rightists on this board are more interesting to argue with than the leftists. Salaamallah, Rockparkman, and bingbong usually just leave me speechless.


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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 12:15:35 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 11:47:42 2012.

LOL! Not....I'm just a pure liberal and a bit of a feminist.

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Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 30 12:26:13 2012, in response to Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 12:01:35 2012.

LOL!

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 12:42:19 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 12:15:35 2012.

"Pure liberal." That's a vivid concept actually. I grew up as a liberal-cum-socialist, and I would say that liberalism as I understood it has changed at least as much as I have.

Libertarians call themselves classic liberals and I see their point. To me Hubert Humphrey was a classic liberal. So was Jefferson. Some politicians who style themselves liberals or progressive these days would be unrecognizable to Jefferson or Humphrey.

Going the other way, changing times haven't induced me to believe Joe McCarthy was anything but the pond scum I thought he was 60 years ago.

I'm neither doubting you nor ridiculing you for calling yourself a pure liberal, I'm just saying that isn't as simple a designation as it may be seemed in the past.

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Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 12:46:49 2012, in response to Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 12:01:35 2012.

Orwell was a straight-out socialist. He just wasn't a person who checked his brains at the door of ideology. If socialists couldn't go devoutly to church or synagogue, the halls of the Arbeiter Ring would have been empty.


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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 12:51:17 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 12:42:19 2012.

So tell me then, if this is the case, when did you lose your mind? :-)

Seriously, I would love to know when the disconnect from a philosophy that is inclusive, supportive of the people and progressive happen?

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Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 12:55:10 2012, in response to Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 12:46:49 2012.

He wasn't as socialistic as the socialists try to make out. The man didn't check his own brains at ideology's door all that much if people still call him an English traditionalist. (Maybe they get the wrong impression of the man from a passport photo where he was sporting a toothbrush mustache?) WWII really resulted in his disappointments in leftism.

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Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 30 12:57:12 2012, in response to Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 12:01:35 2012.



Uhh...really...

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 13:02:56 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 12:51:17 2012.

You're begging the question, bingbong. Modern liberalism is supportive of designated people, and far from inclusive. And taking "progressive" by its plain meaning is strictly POV.

And my move away from modern liberalism was a very slow process, as liberalism moved away from certain ideals, becoming more race-based and grievance-based and less class-based and intellectually-based.

And personally, I grew older and had to deal more with the real world and less with the theoretical world, and the betrayal by liberals of people and issues of importance to me.



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Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 13:08:07 2012, in response to Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 12:55:10 2012.

Well, he was a socialist who saw and hated the hypocrisy of his fellows. Perhaps you could say he was a socialist, not a Socialist.

WWII really resulted in his disappointments in leftism.

Can I reword that "WWII amplified his disappointments in the left"?

The Spanish Civil War (which he participated in) really sparked his disgust with the left.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 30 13:33:29 2012, in response to Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 00:30:43 2012.

I am a political moderate who leans to the right. But, my question is why would you post a "List of Leftists" here? Don't you have anything better to do, since your Michelle Bachmann inflatable doll blew up from overuse?

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 30 13:45:37 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 30 13:33:29 2012.

That would certainly be more understandable than a Nancy Pelosi inflatable doll being used at all.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 30 13:49:31 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 30 13:45:37 2012.

A Nancy Pelosi inflatable doll belongs on "Antiques Roadshow". Have you seen her walk recently? She moves like a cabin boy on a Greek freighter!

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 13:50:07 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 30 13:49:31 2012.

Oooooooo...

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Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 13:51:03 2012, in response to EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jun 30 09:13:55 2012.

That makes three, so far.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 30 13:52:31 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 30 13:49:31 2012.

With good reason, I suppose

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 30 13:53:04 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 13:50:07 2012.

"Come here, Little Nancy, Uncle Gus take your temperature!"

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 14:10:13 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 13:02:56 2012.

The entire point of modern liberalism is to be inclusive, expand rights and promote the general welfare (words taken straight from the Constitution). That it takes addressing the issues, or as you see it grievances, of particular groups is essential as these groups have been excluded from one right within this society or another. Where do you see this as exclusionary?

Redress of grievances is one of the pillars this nation was founded upon. It was the fact that King George, way back when did not do so became one of the forces motivating our founders.

Modern conservatism has devolved into a regime of blindly followed dogma. They have no interest in the redress of grievances. In fact, they're creating them.....look at Willard's healthcare "plans", they intend to remove people like me from accessing healthcare insurance (ending ACA Bridge Plans) and *eliminating* opportunity to purchase healthcare insurance *period*. Is this inclusive?

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Jun 30 14:12:56 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by AlM on Sat Jun 30 12:15:20 2012.

i'd say jayzee is somewhat like the conservatives on this board in that he is often wrong but never appears insane.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 30 14:16:40 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 14:10:13 2012.

Why do you have time to respond to the post to which you are responding to but you don't have time to defend your argument about conscription. It;s very easy. Just admit that you were wrong, again.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 14:18:13 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 30 13:33:29 2012.

your Michelle Bachmann inflatable doll blew up from overuse?

I should have known better than to lend it to you.


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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 14:19:39 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 30 04:10:54 2012.

explain how I'm covered by Obamacare. it's a poor assumption on your part.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Jun 30 14:36:12 2012, in response to Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 00:30:43 2012.

And yet somehow, I manage not to be called a liberal again...

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Jun 30 14:37:44 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Jun 30 14:36:12 2012.

you don't post enough and you never start threads.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 14:38:09 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 30 14:16:40 2012.

Those who are ignorant of history shouldn't be involved in the discussion thereof.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 14:39:08 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by AlM on Sat Jun 30 11:41:23 2012.

The list says more about its creator than about its subjects. He assumes I'm a liberal even though I hardly ever express a liberal opinion on this board. But he doesn't feel the need to read what I've written carefully enough to notice.

LOL that you never express leftist beliefs.


Another name for this list should be, "What will they do without ChrisR16"?


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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 14:39:11 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 14:10:13 2012.

Your first paragraph illustrates my point. As a modern liberal, you equate the inclusiveness of "promote the general welfare" with the selectivity of deciding which groups are oppressed enough to be promoted, so to speak.

And liberals have become as expert as old King George in deciding whose grievances to redress. Are you an upper-class minority that wants to get into a select school? You are entitled to Affirmative Action. Are you a lower-class minority that would like your kid to have a shot at a better school? How dare you leave your peers, you wannabe elitist? And are you poor white trash that wants to defend what little you've worked for? Get thee out of my sight, you racist tea-bagging bastard.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 14:40:29 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Jun 30 14:36:12 2012.

I still get confused by the two AEM's who post here. After the Brentwood foto fiasco I'm staying away from The AEM's.



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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Jun 30 14:41:24 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 14:39:08 2012.

Another name for this list should be, "What will they do without ChrisR16"?

i doubt he's gone for good.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 30 14:44:56 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by DAND124 on Sat Jun 30 14:41:24 2012.

Has anyone heard from him?

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 14:48:04 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 30 14:44:56 2012.

Not for many months.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 14:50:05 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 14:39:11 2012.

Anyone should be able to attend the best school they qualify for and can afford. It is not the place for private schools to demand or receive public tax monies to support their enterprises.

What about the parents that want their neighborhood school to provide that world-class education? Shouldn't they have the right to that, regardless of what neighborhood they live in? (This BTW, is what most parents want)

The only people looking to take from"poor white trash" are the people they keep electing. If they'd wise up and vote for that which is in their own interest they'd be much better off.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 30 14:50:06 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 14:48:04 2012.

I assume that he has family.


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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Jun 30 14:50:37 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 30 14:44:56 2012.

his twitter account was active 18 minutes ago

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Jun 30 14:51:12 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 14:48:04 2012.

??? he last posted on Thursday.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 14:52:20 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 11:47:42 2012.

certain people are totally unreadable.

bingbong is unreadable for the most part.

Rockparkman and Edwards! I might read them once in a while but ignore for the most part.

SUBWAYSURF is overbearing and psychotic but funny enough to click on every so often.

Leftists who are missed include RPanse, trainsarefun, MJF, Jtrainloco and a few others. But some will be back before the election.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 14:52:57 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by DAND124 on Sat Jun 30 14:50:37 2012.

what's his twitter handle? I'd like to follow him.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 14:53:31 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by DAND124 on Sat Jun 30 14:51:12 2012.

That's my point.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Jun 30 14:54:24 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 14:52:57 2012.

i'm not sure if he want's it posted here.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 14:55:33 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by DAND124 on Sat Jun 30 14:54:24 2012.

but he wants his home address and telephone number posted of course.

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