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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 19:43:29 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 30 17:46:15 2012.

Perhaps you can see past what spellcheckers do to messages sometimes. Including yours. Troll.

"a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, , or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussiion...."

Butting in on a conversation as you have done several times attempting to interfere or drive the conversation off topic already today alone also qualify, troll.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 20:02:03 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 16:48:43 2012.

The bilingual program I'm talking about teaches standard curriculum in the native language and English. When the student is sufficiently proficient in English they are placed into the general student population. It enables students to maintain and continue their current studies at their current level, so they do not fall behind their peers.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 20:02:03 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 16:48:43 2012.

The bilingual program I'm talking about teaches standard curriculum in the native language and English. When the student is sufficiently proficient in English they are placed into the general student population. It enables students to maintain and continue their current studies at their current level, so they do not fall behind their peers.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 20:06:47 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 30 19:40:11 2012.

It's far wiser to keep them going in a way they can understand until they speak enough English. Also it is not exclusively Spanish speakers that enroll in programs like this.....they typically need a few months and integrate into the system once they can follow what's going on in the classroom.

What part ofthis don't you understand? This WORKS very well.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 30 20:14:35 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 19:43:29 2012.

This is an open board. And for the record, this is not your board to be deciding who participates and who does not. If you want a private conversation, take it to e-mail. You do understand what I'm saying, don't you?

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Jun 30 20:18:44 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 12:42:19 2012.

LOL. Humphrey must be turning over in his grave being likened to a libertarian.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 21:00:49 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 20:02:03 2012.

In theory.

In practice that hasn't worked so well. It became a scandal some years ago when it was revealed that students went through the entire New York City school system and graduated from LaGuardia College without ever learning becoming proficient in English.

You cannot be expected to become proficient in the dominant language of your country when you are getting continual reinforcement of your birth language by taking general education courses in it.

At the same time you are squandering the youthful years of young ESL students, the time when it is easiest to learn a new language

You continually cite the Liberal cant of 10-20-30 years ago as though nothing has happened to cast doubt on, or demonstrate the failures of, these theories over the ensuing decades.


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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 21:06:01 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 30 17:36:09 2012.

When you talk about children of "stupid" parents, are you attempting a point of genetics, innate capability to help children succeed, or ignorance?

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 21:07:36 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 21:00:49 2012.

They wouldn't have been able to graduate without being proficient in English as most of their courses are taught exclusively in English. You ought to get beyond the RW bullshitters telling you this stuff.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 21:08:28 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 19:43:29 2012.

I thought a troll was a guy who makes you pay to cross his bridge.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 21:10:58 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 21:08:28 2012.

In fairytales, yes. On the internet....welll.....no.

In conclusion, the internet is no fairytale. :-)

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 30 21:16:17 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 21:06:01 2012.

All of those.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 30 21:19:17 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 20:06:47 2012.

I never said it was only Spanish. It does not work. Besides, we should stop coddling immigrants.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 30 21:19:17 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 21:06:01 2012.

I would have to say that it's a combination of all three factors plus the one that you forgot - the leading by example.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 21:32:09 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 30 21:19:17 2012.

Who is coddling immigrants? We are merely assisting them to integrate, which is something they need to do when they get here. If they don't utilize programs like these they tend to lose not only their academic skills, but remain ghettoized longer. Isolated communities unable to communicate with those around them leads to all sorts of problems.

Not to mention they serve to perpetuate racism and xenophobia among the general non-immigrant population.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 30 21:36:27 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 30 21:19:17 2012.

If we decided to not "coddle" immigrant children, then there'd be dozens of times more people driving around with spinning hubcaps on their BMW's while flaunting their benefit cards in Queens, yo. :)

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Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 22:12:15 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 21:06:01 2012.

It means he has an animus vis-ā-vis his forebears.

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Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 22:23:45 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 21:08:28 2012.

Usually trolls under bridges kill and eat anyone or anything that crosses it; at least that's the case in the "Three Billy Goats Gruff" tale. Scandinavian mythology puts trolls on the same level as giants (jötnar).

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 30 22:30:31 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 13:02:56 2012.

It is Conservatism that is race-based, gender-based, class-based (the rich and elite) and rooted in xenophobia and ethnic supremacy and contempt for the disadvantaged.

Look at all the Professional Victims here like LuchAAA and others.

They need to make up stuff in order to characterize themselves as victims even though their gender and race gave them every advantage possible in this society.

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Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 22:34:11 2012, in response to Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 22:23:45 2012.

Meanwhile, trolls on the internet belabor the tangent.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 30 22:38:00 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 12:42:19 2012.

Humphrey was a New Deal Democrat.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 22:41:16 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 30 20:14:35 2012.

Doesn't mean you can just butt in, insult the participants and bully the conversation. It's also unbecoming a civil service retiree. You're making the MTA look bad.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 30 22:43:57 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by AlM on Sat Jun 30 12:15:20 2012.

Rockparkman says the things that we all know to be true but that we don't dare post ourselves out of a sense of both comity and hypocrisy.

That makes him the last truly honest person on OTChat.

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Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 22:47:35 2012, in response to Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 13:08:07 2012.

I'd say by the end of WWII, he was a socialist . . . he was a big traditionalist at heart though.

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Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 22:49:52 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 30 11:47:42 2012.

How do you practice fascism in crypts?

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 30 22:54:47 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 22:41:16 2012.

I didn't insult you until you couldn't respond to a legitimate point and you got nasty. Then you got half of what you deserve.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 30 23:13:54 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 21:32:09 2012.

Bilingual education assists them in segregation and immersion integrates them.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 23:14:22 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 30 22:30:31 2012.

It is Conservatism that is race-based, gender-based, class-based (the rich and elite) and rooted in xenophobia and ethnic supremacy and contempt for the disadvantaged.

No. It's race, gender and sexual preference that are the base of Leftist campaign strategy. They see racism in everything from the Black Hole to the Yellow Line in Atlanta. That's Leftthink.

Look at all the Professional Victims here like LuchAAA and others.

I'm a visionary not a victim.

They need to make up stuff in order to characterize themselves as victims even though their gender and race gave them every advantage possible in this society.

What advantage does my skin color and gender give me? None. And I never make stuff up.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 23:15:44 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 30 22:43:57 2012.

Agreed. I try too hard to be civil. He speaks truth to fascists.

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Re: Midyear (2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 1 00:29:54 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 30 23:14:22 2012.

Ask him how well women and minorities fared under hard-left regimes in any Second World country.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 1 08:27:35 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 30 10:17:04 2012.

Better than seeing one in person. For sure. 8-)

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Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 1 08:29:24 2012, in response to Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Jun 30 09:33:11 2012.

Like I said you are "blind".

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Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 1 08:30:51 2012, in response to Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF, posted by Railman718 on Sat Jun 30 09:40:33 2012.

8-)

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Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 1 08:31:15 2012, in response to Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 11:56:55 2012.

rotflmao

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Re: EVERYyear (2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 1 08:33:37 2012, in response to Re: EVERYyear (2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 30 12:09:41 2012.

You DO have a sense of humor. Not much of any other kind of sense, but ..>

ROTFLMFAO

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Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 1 08:34:25 2012, in response to Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 30 11:45:59 2012.

THX 8-)

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 1 08:36:40 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 30 10:49:17 2012.

8-)

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Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Jul 1 10:20:29 2012, in response to Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 1 08:29:24 2012.

Might want to get your eyes checked.

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Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Jul 1 10:21:29 2012, in response to Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 1 08:34:25 2012.

Actually, that would be you.

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Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Jul 1 10:22:03 2012, in response to Re: EVERYyear(2012) List of DOUCHEBAGS - SUBWAYSURF, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 30 11:45:59 2012.

OINK.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 1 14:13:08 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 30 22:54:47 2012.

http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=953941

You had no reason to post that other than to troll. It contributed nothing tothe conversation and was clearly just to insult. Troll.

If you can't actually contribute thought to the conversation



No one wants to hear you

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 1 17:04:53 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 1 14:13:08 2012.

Is that the best you can do, fido?

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 1 17:19:20 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 1 14:13:08 2012.

Geez, look at all the drama and angst just because I called you on some bullshit that you post and ask you to back it up with facts. If you can't prove your claim that BMW is going to close down in South Carolina and move to Detroit, just admit that you misspoke. If you can't back up your claim that conscription is called for in the Constitution, just say that you were in error and move on. Are you so incapable of admitting that you are incorrect that you'd go through all of this? Even the turtle has admitted that he has been wrong on occasions. Seriously, I think this bing-bong thing making your head go ding-dong. Take a vacation or take a prozac or both, Nan.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 1 17:46:08 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 1 17:19:20 2012.

Fuckoff troll. You are worse than Terrorpin, who is merely annoying and pesky. You're hateful and obnoxious. Nor can you think with any depth orcomprehend a simple context like this isn't the 18th crentury......

Conscription is in the Constitution, it's written as "raising and army". It isn't my fault if you have no concept of context, nor comprehend the language of that day is not the same as the language of now as well as the fact that the modern consensus on that 18th century language is a military draft.



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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jul 1 18:49:42 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 30 11:58:31 2012.

I would have put it as simply, shit seeks its own level.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Rockparkman on Sun Jul 1 18:53:46 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jul 1 18:49:42 2012.

You are shit. If this government cannot run a health plan, The Chinese will do it for us and we won't have a choice in the matter.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 1 19:05:28 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 1 17:46:08 2012.

"Fuck off"? I guess you can take the bitch out of the trailer park but you can't take the trailer park out of the bitch.

And conscription is not mentioned in the constitution - idiot!









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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 1 20:53:46 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 1 19:05:28 2012.

Yes it is. That you can't comprehend something as simple as the difference between 18th century language and the overwhelming modern consensus as to its meaning only proves you understand


about the Constitution, America or Americans. Move to Somalia. See if you can outrun the technicals on your bike.


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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Jul 2 04:15:02 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jun 30 22:30:31 2012.

Good post.

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Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 2 04:16:53 2012, in response to Re: Midyear(2012) List of Leftists, posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 1 17:46:08 2012.

wooooohooo...!

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