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Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 21:28:17 2012

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http://queenscrap.blogspot.com/2012/05/parking-placard-abuse-problem-in-forest.html

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:33:51 2012, in response to Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 21:28:17 2012.

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Only you, Luch, would use the word "cripple" in the 21st century. Anyway, the blog you linked makes no mention whatsoever of handicapped-permit abuse. It only says "parking placard" abuse, which, IINM, refers to the placards used by NYPD cops.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 21:37:56 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:33:51 2012.

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Wanna canvass the area with me and see for yourself?

I call them cripple stickers because of the wheelchair logo. Oddly I have never seen anyone with a wheelchair getting in or out of one of those automobiles.

Thanks for attacking for no reason.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:41:33 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 21:37:56 2012.

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There ARE disabilities requiring parking permits besides wheelchair confinement, y'know. Not all disabilities are visible.

I worked 51E2 long enough in the KG/Forest Hills area to see the placards on cars all over the place, but I still don't think the handicapped permits are being abused at all. The NYPD placards, now that's something else.

UCA ASCA/QUEE, QN

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 21:43:49 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:41:33 2012.

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Like I said, let's canvass the area and I'll show you. Afraid to see the truth?

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by Easy on Sun May 13 21:48:28 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:41:33 2012.

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I think that the large majority of the handicapped placards in LA are fraudulent. People get them in their parents or grandparents name when they don't even drive anymore. There have been numerous exposes in various newspapers and news stations detailing how widespread the fraud is. They might as well get rid of them IMO.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:51:54 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 21:43:49 2012.

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I already acknowledged that parking-placard abuse is rampant in the Kew/Forest area. I just don't think this abuse extends to handicapped permits, and, in fact, the location of a car with such a permit is no indication that its driver is abusing the privilege.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:52:55 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by Easy on Sun May 13 21:48:28 2012.

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The requirements for handicapped parking permits in NYC are VERY stringent.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 21:53:23 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by Easy on Sun May 13 21:48:28 2012.

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Yup. People in places like Queens and LA live for such scams to deal with fucked up parking situation. And DOT does everything to reduce the number of free parking spaces. It's all made worse by the garbage losers who buy trucks and minivans in NYC.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 21:54:38 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:51:54 2012.

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LOL. Ok.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by Easy on Sun May 13 21:58:55 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:52:55 2012.

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Then maybe it's not as widespread there. It's ridiculous here. I also don't like the handicapped line at the bank. The people using it are obviously not handicapped.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 22:01:12 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by Easy on Sun May 13 21:58:55 2012.

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The people using it are obviously not handicapped.

Perhaps you'll share with us the medical training you possess that qualifies you to make this determination.



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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by Easy on Sun May 13 22:02:42 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 22:01:12 2012.

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lol

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 01:02:05 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:52:55 2012.

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?????

And? Two elderly parents....two handicap tags, one given to "Daugter".

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 01:05:14 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 21:53:23 2012.

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JayZee probably never heard of the two elderly parents each getting the tag, neither having a car, so giving it to daughter and the other to son.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 01:12:49 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:41:33 2012.

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I still don't think the handicapped permits are being abused at all.

How so? You don't think that a "qualified" person, with a driver's licence, that doesn't use it never gets one anyone and gives it to a relative? Or the two elderly parents that get one each, but don't drive so gives it to their relatives? Naive?

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 01:15:34 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 01:12:49 2012.

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he sees LuchAAA and attacks

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 01:18:55 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 01:15:34 2012.

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He can't possibly be that naive to think that the tags don't get abused.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 14 01:55:31 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 01:18:55 2012.

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Maybe the city can learn something from upstate. Up HERE, the tags have the plate and VIN of the vehicle to which they are assigned. TRY and misuse a tag up here, the county will HAVE your ass.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 14 05:31:50 2012, in response to Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 13 21:28:17 2012.

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Good to hear there is still professional courtesy 10 years after I retired. I can't believe these idiots are complaining. Would they rather these cops compete with them for parking spots? Don't they realize it makes more spots for them. If I was still on the job and worked in the area and knew who the crybabies were, I'd look for any possible technical violation to give them summonses.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 14 05:32:32 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 13 21:33:51 2012.

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Stop with that political correctness nonsense.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 06:50:41 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 14 05:31:50 2012.

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Sarge, that photo is very misleading. 90% of the abusers are people with handicapped placards, almost never NYPD.


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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 07:18:01 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 14 01:55:31 2012.

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But what happens when the daughter takes the mother (who has the tag) who doesn't drive and takes her somewhere? If the mother is in the vehicle, I see no problem with them using her tag, if in the daughter's car. It's if the daughter uses it without the mother that I have the problem with.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 07:20:33 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 07:18:01 2012.

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someone i know lives at Myrtle and 65th in Glendale in a six-family.

i found it odd that he never complains about parking. turns out he got one of the wheelchair placards.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 07:22:21 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 14 05:31:50 2012.

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You should be attacking JayZee, he's the one that mentioned that.

And I agree with you about giving idiots technical violations when they act like assholes.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 07:23:17 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 14 05:32:32 2012.

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Whenever people start the PC crap, I get even more codding and will use the phrases they dislike even more. I can't stand PC crap.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 07:23:42 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 14 05:32:32 2012.

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Whenever people start the PC crap, I get even more cloddish and will use the phrases they dislike even more. I can't stand PC crap.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 07:42:32 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 07:20:33 2012.

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I know those two or three blocks of 6 family houses around 65th. But how is he going to be able to park on the street there any different than anyone else? There's no "handicapped" parking on the street there.

That said, I have found it easier to park in Glendale myself, it's less dense than let's say Ridgewood, and Ridgewood is less congested than other parts of the Queens like let's say Rego Park or Astoria.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 14 17:44:41 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 07:18:01 2012.

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She takes mom in mom's car, OR explains to the nice officer why mom isn't in her own car. If mom is there, the cop won't write you up. Around here if you park in a "handicapable" spot, you WILL get a serious ticket. If you aren't the name on the tag, you will ALSO get a serious ticket. We don't screw around upstate. That's why we don't have much crime.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by bingbong on Mon May 14 17:54:25 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 07:18:01 2012.

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If the mother doesn't own a car, or have a valid driver's license, she won't be able to get a tag.

If the tagholder is in the car, as driver or passenger, it's OK. If the tagholder is a passenger in another car, it's Ok too, but they will need to be present to dispute the ticket in traffic court. THIW.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by G1Ravage on Tue May 15 04:12:23 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 14 05:31:50 2012.

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IAWTP

I have two vehicles in my area who routinely park "outside" the law, and I'd rather they do that than take spots away from us poor folk who can't do the same.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 15 06:28:51 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by bingbong on Mon May 14 17:54:25 2012.

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If the mother doesn't own a car, or have a valid driver's license, she won't be able to get a tag.

ANd who said otherwise? But many old people keep their driver's license valid even after they stop driving. So what's your point?

If the tagholder is a passenger in another car, it's Ok too, but they will need to be present to dispute the ticket in traffic court.

??????

And what does that have to do with anything? What ticket, and if you think dishonest mother who gave her daughter the tag wouldn't be dishonest and say she was present when the ticket was given?

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 15 06:32:19 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 15 06:28:51 2012.

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The cops actually show up for traffic court around here.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 15 06:40:41 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 14 17:44:41 2012.

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She takes mom in mom's car, OR explains to the nice officer why mom isn't in her own car.

Mom doesn't need a car to get the tag.

She takes mom in mom's car, OR explains to the nice officer why mom isn't in her own car.

So you think the cop is going to pull out a chair and wait next to the car until daughter comes back to the car after shopping for a hour?

We don't screw around upstate. That's why we don't have much crime.



LOL!!!!! I looked up some random town's in upstate requirements for receiving a handicap parking permit, and the requirements don't appear any different than any of the villages or towns within Nassau or Suffolk county.


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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 15 06:56:18 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 15 06:32:19 2012.

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That's not what I said. Again, I will ask. Will the cop pull out a chair and wait next to the car until daugther comes out of the store shopping to see if mother is there? You evaded the question. (And our cops show up to traffic court to, but that wasn't the topic being discussed).

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 15 07:56:57 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by bingbong on Mon May 14 17:54:25 2012.

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If the mother doesn't own a car, or have a valid driver's license, she won't be able to get a tag.

False

General Instructions 1(b) - You do not have to be a driver, or the registered owner of a vehicle, to get a parking permit.

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Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood

Posted by TERRapin station on Tue May 15 09:37:12 2012, in response to Re: Cripple stickers and police placards a problem in Queens neighborhood, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 15 07:56:57 2012.

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Ha ha pwn3d BIG TIME!!!! Why do people say stuff that is factually incorrect (and easy to look up)? Because they are intellectually lazy and therefore untrustworthy and without credibility.

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