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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 11 18:50:20 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 18:44:28 2012.

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Was there a more important breaking story that they had to cut to?

Something of this magnitude is something any news director would keep cutting to instead of rehashing the rundown sheet over and over. If Train Dude rented a podium, I'd cover that too.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Apr 11 18:50:51 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 18:43:51 2012.

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I doubt it, I think he'll plead that he cant have his trial in Florida and he be successful and have it transferred.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 11 18:51:39 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Apr 11 18:31:26 2012.

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The fact that he engaged in menacing behavior speaks to intent. He also was packing heat,and if his intent was not to use the gun on a child why didn't he lock it in his truck? The evidence does not appear to support Trayvon Martin striking first (although he (being there legitimately) also had the right to stand his ground, his response was in reaction to being followed by a stranger....consider that he was indoctrinated in the modern child-stalker paranoia reality through his time in school.) Zimmerman was menacing a child.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 18:53:15 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 11 18:51:39 2012.

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Agreed. Funny how the trolls here conveniently ignore the fact that Zimmerman was stalking a child with a gun.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 11 18:55:09 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 18:53:15 2012.

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Eventually the races will be flipped in some other event and we'll get to see what happens. Like we need to wait. :-\

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 18:57:02 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 11 18:55:09 2012.

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Really.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 18:58:04 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Apr 11 18:50:51 2012.

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I agree with you, but it's truly a national story and I think Zimmerman will actually have more luck in Seminole County than many other counties in America.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:00:07 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 18:58:04 2012.

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Why do you think a Seminole County jury will be more sympathetic to Zimmerman?

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:02:16 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 11 18:55:09 2012.

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Shepard Smith is leading with the Zimmerman story. Fox is covering the story.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 11 19:04:40 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:00:07 2012.

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Check the demographics ...

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:06:03 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 11 19:04:40 2012.

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I kinda figured. But I wanted to see what Luch's take on this was...

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:07:43 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:00:07 2012.

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I guess because it's better than Dade or Hillsborough.

Al Sharpton is calling for peace. Interesting that him and I think alike in some ways.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 11 19:07:50 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Apr 11 18:48:16 2012.

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YOU have no right to feel that way. You are a conservative and selkock has made this an issue where all conservatives are for Zimmerman going free. Are you now trying to prove selkock wrong?

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 11 19:08:32 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:02:16 2012.

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Good for them. I'll stay with CBS right now ...

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 11 19:08:52 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:07:43 2012.

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He's calling for peace because he likely has a 10% stake in the McDonalds on I-4.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 11 19:09:16 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 18:31:29 2012.

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Al Sharpton has nothing to do with this. Al Sharpton is only an issue to racists.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Apr 11 19:09:23 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 18:53:15 2012.

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He was LEGALLY allowed to carry a weapon. So if Trayvon was 35 you're going to say he was stalking a man with a gun? That statement is absurd and so is the one you're saying. he followed him and whether he had a SUDDEN intent to use it is whats on trial. If Trayvon was the one who initiated the physical confrontation then Zimmerman walks. The whole case rests on who swung first. For Zimmerman to be charged with 2nd degree murder Trayvon and Zimmerman must've had a confrontation and Zimmerman made a sudden choice to shoot Trayvon WITHOUT trayvon starting the physical altercation.

So don't try to Troll me, it doesn't work, do I think ZImmerman killed Trayvon yes, was the prosecutors charge too high I believe so. its easier to prove Zimmerman acted in Self Defense due to the strength of Stand Your Ground.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 11 19:09:54 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:06:03 2012.

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You mean ... you mean? You didn't already know? Gotta work on that journo gut feeling, bro ... :)

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Re: Special Prosecutor: Zimmerman Charged With Murder

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Apr 11 19:11:12 2012, in response to Re: Special Prosecutor: Zimmerman Charged With Murder, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 18:08:43 2012.

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"I wonder why Zimmerman didn't flee to a Spanish-speaking country like that black lady from Queens who killed two Jersey state troopers?"


Joann Chesimard???

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Apr 11 19:12:12 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 11 18:31:30 2012.

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Bump

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 11 19:12:32 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 11 19:09:16 2012.

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Al Sharpton is a racist.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:13:19 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 11 19:04:40 2012.

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post the demographics from 2010 Census of Seminole

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by Fred G on Wed Apr 11 19:13:19 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Apr 11 17:39:44 2012.

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Looks like the Daily Caller stragety of moving that mark around his head didn't help him avoid his day in court :-P

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:17:46 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:06:03 2012.

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so why not wait for me to respond?

the demographics are not not 90% white as you probably assumed.



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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:17:46 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:06:03 2012.

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so why not wait for me to respond?

the demographics are not not 90% white as you probably assumed.



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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:18:38 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Apr 11 19:09:23 2012.

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Even the authors of Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law publicly said, weeks ago, that Zimmerman wasn't covered under it.

Following a child while armed with a gun is just asking for trouble. Why did Zimmerman feel the need to get out of his truck at all, if he thought Trayvon was so dangerous he called 911 about the boy? Oh, and did you know Trayvon's lifeless body was found 100 YARDS from where Zimmerman's truck was parked? That smells a LOT like Trayvon was being chased by a strange, menacing adult with a gun.

Second-degree murder, with manslaughter as a lesser included offense, is entirely appropriate for this case.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 11 19:19:26 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:13:19 2012.

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I've got better things to do ... CBS is covering Manson's fail at parole right now. :)

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:20:33 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:18:38 2012.

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Why did Zimmerman feel the need to get out of his truck at all, if he thought Trayvon was so dangerous he called 911 about the boy?

You're using LuchAAA's talking points.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:20:37 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:18:38 2012.

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Why did Zimmerman feel the need to get out of his truck at all, if he thought Trayvon was so dangerous he called 911 about the boy?

You're using LuchAAA's talking points.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Apr 11 19:21:58 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by Rockparkman on Wed Apr 11 18:23:03 2012.

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Only if you put him there. You are pretty much an idiot on many things.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:22:45 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:17:46 2012.

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Seminole County is 78% white, 11% black, not too far off comparable statewide demos.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:23:57 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:20:37 2012.

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No, I'm not. I asked this very same question when I first posted this story weeks ago.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 11 19:24:54 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:22:45 2012.

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Thanks for that ... too busy watching real news right now. They did a thing on the predictive police computer thingy in LA after Manson not being set free to assist Romney's campaign. :)

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:25:14 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:23:57 2012.

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So why do you attack me all the time? Makes no sense.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:25:41 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 11 19:24:54 2012.

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LAPD now has a Bureau Of Pre-Crime? LOL!

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:26:15 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:25:14 2012.

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I don't "attack you all the time"...

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:27:37 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:22:45 2012.

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yup.

and a lot of the whites there are retired New Yorkers(leftists).

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 19:27:38 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:22:45 2012.

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yup.

and a lot of the whites there are retired New Yorkers(leftists).

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 11 19:30:10 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:25:41 2012.

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Yeah, 20 minutes in on CBS Network tonight. It's actually an old story, but they decided to report it again. Red boxes around a google map saying "next break in likely here" ... that stuff. I was hoping to see a ball drop around a chute and a pool of precogs, but no such luck. :)

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Apr 11 19:40:37 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:18:38 2012.

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he wont be convicted of 2nd degree murder Im sure of it... I hope they add the Manslaughter though which he can be convicted of of imo.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by Fred G on Wed Apr 11 19:41:13 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 11 19:08:52 2012.

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Don't you mean "steak"? Lol

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Apr 11 19:47:17 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Apr 11 18:48:16 2012.

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The charge was dismissed ahead of trial. It turned out there that that police officer was in the wrong.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 11 20:18:41 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 11 19:12:32 2012.

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Proff?

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 11 20:20:13 2012, in response to AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 11 17:38:09 2012.

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I guess that no one gets the bounty.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by Fred G on Wed Apr 11 21:56:25 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Apr 11 19:09:23 2012.

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Are you taking Zimmerman's past behavior into account here?

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Apr 11 22:13:45 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 11 19:18:38 2012.

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LOL You sure love to exaggerate. Trayvon was 17, and covered from head to toe. Zimmerman doesn't know he's legally a "child".

The liberal response is just ridiculous.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 11 22:17:20 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Apr 11 19:09:23 2012.

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During the conversation on the phone with his girlfriend, Trayvon Martin established his feelings of threat WRT Zimmerman. Mr Martin had the right to be in the development. Zimmerman was running a personal errand at the time. He was NOT on a scheduled patrol. (how many times do these facts need to be repeated to sink in?) Zimmerman left his truck to confront Trayvon Martin (legally had no right to be there, being neither a resident of the development nor on scheduled neighborhood watch patrol) . At that point, he lost the claim to standing his ground. He was now on Trayvon Martin's. And menacing him.

IMO these were the proper charges under Florida law.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Apr 11 22:27:33 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 11 22:17:20 2012.

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Zimmerman didn't live in the development?

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 11 22:35:44 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by Fred G on Wed Apr 11 21:56:25 2012.

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The court sure will.

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Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 11 23:23:56 2012, in response to Re: AP says Zimmerman in custody, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Apr 11 19:21:58 2012.

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You're an idiot on every thing.

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