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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jul 18 19:50:29 2011 From the NYTIMES.COM:July 17, 2011 A Population Changes, Uneasily By SABRINA TAVERNISE WASHINGTON — This city, the country’s first to have an African-American majority and one of its earliest experiments in black self-government, is passing a milestone. Washington’s black population slipped below 50 percent this year, possibly in February, about 51 years after it gained a majority, according to an estimate by William Frey, the senior demographer at the Brookings Institution. The shift is passing without much debate, but it is leaving ripples of resentment in neighborhoods across the city, pitting some of the city’s long-term residents, often African-American, against affluent newcomers, most of whom are white, over issues as mundane as church parking and chicken wings. “You can’t help but look around and see the face of the community changing before your eyes,” said Tom Sherwood, co-author of “Dream City: Race, Power, and the Decline of Washington, D.C.” He added, “That can be an uncomfortable feeling, and you’re going to have some people acting out, expressing their concern in racial code words.” On H Street, Pamela Johnson, an African-American who owns a small storefront building, said her property tax bill had more than tripled in the three and a half years since the city began building a streetcar system that she said she never wanted. She said that she could not afford to pay and that she was one of several dozen owners in danger of losing their properties in a tax sale. “This process was imposed on us, and now it’s driving us out of here,” said Ms. Johnson, sitting in a Jamaican restaurant on H Street, which now has new sidewalks, stylized street lamps and shiny streetcar tracks. “We see this as the city’s way of gentrifying these corridors.” Charles Allen, a spokesman for Tommy Wells, the District of Columbia Council member who represents the area, said the district had gone out of its way to help Ms. Johnson and other property owners, including by lowering their property tax rates and persuading the city’s Office of Tax and Revenue to take them off the tax sale list. In addition, the Council just signed off on $723,000 in relief for small businesses hurt by the changes in the city. “Blocks have turned from empty lots to active businesses,” Mr. Allen said, noting that 55 new businesses had opened in the area over the last few years. (Ms. Johnson says many stores have also had to close.) “Property values have increased. Most property owners on H Street are happy about that.” Washington ranked third in median income growth among large cities in the past decade, and resentments like Ms. Johnson’s often are, perhaps inevitably, responses to a rising tide of market forces. But race and class issues often overlap, and as the city’s demographics shift — the white population jumped by 31 percent in the past decade, while the black population declined by 11 percent — many less affluent blacks say they are feeling left out of the city’s improving fortunes. In April, the Census Bureau reported that Ward 8, in the city’s mostly poor and black southeast, had the highest jobless rate in the country. “Change is good, but it kind of kicks some of us to the back of the bus,” said Shirley Parnell, a Department of Motor Vehicles worker who recently inherited her mother’s house near H Street, which came with $11,000 in back taxes. Many prominent black leaders argue that the city is more diverse than ever, with more to do, less crime and a bigger tax base. City law requires developers to set aside a portion of new residential space for lower-income people. “This is a cosmopolitan, artsy town,” said Representative Eleanor Holmes Norton, the city’s nonvoting congresswoman. “Black people laid down a culture that lives here. The flavor of the city is not going to change with whites moving in.” Still, the influx of affluent newcomers has made low-income residents, particularly renters, nervous. About 38 percent of blacks were homeowners in 2009, compared with 56 percent of whites, according to Mr. Frey at the Brookings Institution. Some of these poorer residents saw revitalization as code for efforts to drive them out, and the building of dog parks and bike and streetcar lanes as efforts by affluent whites to re-arrange spending priorities to suit themselves. That perception surfaced during the Democratic primary last year and was used — many say unfairly — as a criticism of Adrian M. Fenty, who was then the mayor. “Fenty did things that were attractive to white people,” Marion Barry said in an interview. Mr. Barry is the storied former mayor who served time in prison, but is still so adored by his black constituency that he has remained in elected office. Sterling Tucker, a former civil rights activist and City Council member, who now serves as the president of the National Theater, strongly disputed that characterization. “Most of Washington would regard what is happening on U Street and H Street as very positive,” Mr. Tucker said, in a reference to two traditionally black neighborhoods. He added: “There are some blacks who like the image of blacks in control, but I’m not sure what that means. I think they are worried about losing political influence.” The Rev. Cheryl J. Sanders, the pastor at the Third Street Church of God, in the Mount Vernon neighborhood, argues that race is important, particularly in gentrifying neighborhoods like hers. Her plan to raze buildings on church property to make room for more parking was blocked by her local neighborhood council in a vote that was divided evenly along racial lines. Blacks voted in favor of the church, long the social heart of the black community, and whites, concerned with preservation, opposed it. City preservation authorities later struck a compromise. At stake, Ms. Sanders said, is the face of the nation’s capital and who gets to shape it. That privilege has special meaning here in Washington, whose black-majority government has given jobs to African-Americans and a way into a middle class that they had long been shut out of. “It’s a question of who has the power to determine what this community is going to look like,” she said. “I want to have a voice in that. I don’t want to be told to ‘sit down and shut up while we cast the vision for the city.’ ” Similar anxieties sprung up on H Street last fall, during a failed attempt by the area’s majority-white neighborhood council to ban the sale of chicken wings in a newly opened 7-Eleven (the bones attract rats and choke dogs, they argued). Other restrictions, like leaving hair salons off the list of businesses eligible for future development assistance, strike Ms. Johnson as attempts to erase the traditional character of the neighborhood. Albert Hopkins Jr., a property owner in Ward 8, said romanticizing the past was misguided. “Were we happy that we were 90 percent black?” he said (in fact, the city peaked at 71 percent black in 1970). “No. It was nothing to light a bonfire over, because we were 90 percent black without resources.” Anwar Saleem, a former city bus mechanic who owns a women’s hair salon on H Street, said the streetcar offered the promise of future profits. He wants support for older businesses, but said he was already planning for the future, changing the name of his salon from Hair Rage International to Salon on H. “Do you want to sell what you want, or do you want to sell what people want to buy?” he said. “If you change your attitude, guess what? It will change your pocket.” This article has been revised to reflect the following correction: Correction: July 18, 2011 A photo caption in an earlier version of this article misstated the location of a block of H Street. It is in Northeast, not Northwest. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jul 18 20:48:20 2011, in response to Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jul 18 19:50:29 2011. Atlanta is also losing black people. In both cities it's that black people are moving to the suburbs while white people are moving to the city. That's how it works. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 18 23:52:03 2011, in response to Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jul 18 19:50:29 2011. I posted this story a month or so ago. Minorities are pouring into Fairfax County, Virginia, which is why Obama won that state and will probably win it again. As minority populations shift from inner-city to suburbs or from north to south, it changes politics, as we've seen over the last few years. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Jul 19 00:28:23 2011, in response to Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jul 18 19:50:29 2011. Not sure what's more pathetic, the NYTimes obsession over race, or these bigots. Imagine if I had a word Cloud on how many times "black" or "white" were used. America is post-racial since 2008, get over it!*************** "A Population Changes, Uneasily it is leaving ripples of resentment in neighborhoods across the city, pitting some of the city’s long-term residents, often African-American, against affluent newcomers, most of whom are white He added, “That can be an uncomfortable feeling, and you’re going to have some people acting out Many prominent black leaders argue did things that were attractive to white people,” Marion Barry said in an interview. Mr. Barry is the storied former mayor who served time in prison, but is still so adored by his black constituency that he has remained in elected office. “There are some blacks who like the image of blacks in control...they are worried about losing political influence.”(ain't they running on this in 2012?) “Were we happy that we were 90 percent black?” |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Jul 19 00:30:10 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by Easy on Mon Jul 18 20:48:20 2011. If they talk of "affluence" I thought that's how it was supposed to be, like Europe. The desirable places are in town, and the poor outcasts are relegated to the suburbs.Putting affluence in the suburbs and having the core decay seems kinda off to me. But I suppose that's really more symbolic and doesn't matter. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jul 19 00:36:57 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by orange blossom special on Tue Jul 19 00:30:10 2011. US cities are definitely trending towards the European model. Probably because - like many here have mentioned (especially Luch) - whites are having fewer kids and having them later which makes city living more practical.LA has the same pattern except that whites here will not move into black neighborhoods so it's the Latinos that are being displaced. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 19 05:06:51 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 18 23:52:03 2011. I highly doubt the minority population of Fairfax County is what won Virginia for Obama. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jul 19 05:14:26 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 18 23:52:03 2011. >>>I posted this story a month or so ago.<<<Amazing! You're clairvoyant too? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 19 15:02:19 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 19 05:06:51 2011. I highly doubt the minority population of Fairfax County is what won Virginia for Obama.Yes, Fairfax County is a major player and can change the entire state vote, like Lake County, Indiana did in that state. Just like there are "swing states" there are "swing counties" in closely contested states. That's how it works. I means seriously, you're from that region. Why do you think Obama stopped in Fairfax County at least twice just before the 2008 election? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 19 15:13:56 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 19 15:02:19 2011. There are other factors in VA besides Fairfax... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 19 15:19:13 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 19 15:13:56 2011. Yes. But the dramatic changes in demographics in that county are changing the state from purple to blue in Presidential elections. Huge increases in black and especially Hispanic population in Fairfax is not good for the GOP. Watch 2012. Both candidates will focus on that county.There are always "other factors". Changing demographics is one of the major factors. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 15:35:07 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 19 15:19:13 2011. I'm long overdue for a trip to Fairfax/NoVA and such, but I would think that the immense amount of "young people" moving to the area would have more to do with an "Obama" vote than the amount of minorities.The whole DC region has become so "upscale" anyway...the changes are noticeable. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 15:37:34 2011, in response to Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jul 18 19:50:29 2011. Reading this story really makes me think about the dangers of gentrification - not necessarily because of the "face" of the neighborhood changing, but because of property taxes raising and pushing people out of their homes and businesses.Hmm. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 19 15:42:45 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 15:35:07 2011. The Hispanics are a big part of the "young people". They may be the youngest demo in America. Age is a demographic. So let's say that in terms of age and race/ethnicity, the demos are changing in favor of Democrats. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jul 19 15:47:26 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 15:37:34 2011. That's not a "danger" imo, that's progress. I would love for my neighborhood to gentrify, but it's very unlikely because it's too suburban. All I can do is move, which I will when home prices recover a little. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 19 15:47:33 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 15:37:34 2011. That's not a danger. It's a benefit. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 19 15:49:03 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 15:37:34 2011. Then you'd love the NY1 feature on changing demos in NY. White population is up in Manhattan while black/latino dropped. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 16:00:09 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 19 15:42:45 2011. Yep, I can certainly agree with this. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 16:04:14 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 19 15:47:33 2011. It's beneficial to push people out of their homes and such? I do agree that higher tax revenue is a good thing for the city itself, though. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 19 16:09:54 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 16:04:14 2011. YES! And you showed why in your second sentence. That and higher income people tend to bring less of a criminal element than welfare types.The neighborhood also becomes cleaner, better maintained and attracts better sorts of businesses. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 19 16:53:01 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 15:37:34 2011. And while you cry about "gentrification", people in the suburbs are feeling the effects, with stories like this being a daily occurrence.link here With NY in a heat wave, I would not be surprised if Nassau and Suffolk have as many or more shootings and stabbings as Brooklyn and the Bronx this week. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 16:57:23 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 19 16:53:01 2011. Yes, that's also part of my point - the flip side of the gentrification and pushing people out of their homes bit. They have to go somewhere...So while one area becomes "gentrified" and all the people that can afford to leave their affordable homes and go to the expensive trendy spot, the values drop and the area gets bought up by people who can only afford the lower priced places, and there ya go. It's like a never ending circle... |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 16:58:59 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 16:57:23 2011. I mean, some areas that are considered "'hoods" and not so safe areas were once LAVISH communities with huge houses! It's just pretty intriguing, I guess. The only thing with lower income people going out to the burbs is that resources aren't as easily accessible. Oh well, I guess. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 19 17:03:25 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 16:57:23 2011. One must come before the other. I know you see this in terms of race only, so who is to blame?Are whites forcing people of color out of their neighborhoods, or are minorities leaving on their own, in favor of the suburbs, thus making it more attractive for white to move in to areas like Harlem, Long Island City or wherever? And why do you say "pushing people out of their homes"? No one is forcing the people out of the projects in Harlem or Queensbridge. The projects are still there, and the demos have not changed. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jul 19 17:26:43 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 19 17:03:25 2011. NYC is different because so many people live in public housing. Most cities aren't like that, although there is section 8. Anyway people get "pushed out" figuratively by their landlords because once a neighborhood becomes more attractive, they can raise the rent.On the one hand it's bad because just when the neighborhood starts to improve and have amenities, the people that lived there in the bad times can no longer afford it. But on the other hand the people that live there when it's bad are the reason it was bad to begin with. Not everyone, but enough. Most really. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 19 17:29:05 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 15:35:07 2011. I think the "young people" you describe are in Arlington mostly, not Fairfax.As I understand it, there is a large black population in the Richmond and Hampton Roads/Norfolk area, that may have been encouraged to vote as a result of Obama's candidacy, I don't know if they vote in large numbers on a regular basis. Also, parts of rural Virginia, especially in Appalachia, traditionally vote Democratic. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Jul 19 17:47:16 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by orange blossom special on Tue Jul 19 00:28:23 2011. America is post-racial since 2008, get over it!That can never happen... |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Jul 19 17:52:46 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 16:57:23 2011. The only solution is eugenics.... |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 20 03:50:49 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 19 15:13:56 2011. Not according to the grate luch. He sees all knows, nothing |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Jul 20 06:12:18 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 19 17:29:05 2011. And where do all the "young people" move when they get married and want more space and a family? Fairfax, Loudoun, Prince William, etc. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 20 06:15:16 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Jul 20 06:12:18 2011. Canada |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jul 20 07:10:13 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Jul 20 06:12:18 2011. Not necessarily. DC's demographics are clearly changing in a remarkable way, it is probably too soon to determine where the new young urbanites will go once they are getting married and having kids (though I'd never send my kids to a DCPS if I was a DC resident, some things simply haven't changed from the days I was growing up). However, out of my circle of (single) friends, none of them are living in Fairfax County. They are living in Silver Spring, Van Ness, Foggy Bottom, and Arlington (and two are moving from those places to outside of the DC area, one to NYC, the other to Israel). |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 20 07:34:23 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by Easy on Tue Jul 19 17:26:43 2011. Landlords aren't running welfare motels. Why shouldn't they raise the rent when the market rent goes up? |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jul 20 08:49:59 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 20 07:34:23 2011. Did you somehow misinterpret my post as suggesting that landlords shouldn't be allowed to raise the rent? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jul 20 09:04:27 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by Easy on Wed Jul 20 08:49:59 2011. it was a rhetorical question. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jul 20 10:37:24 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jul 20 09:04:27 2011. That was my other option. I think that in most cases landlords should be allowed to raise the rent. The exceptions are when they do stuff like buy a rent controlled building (on the cheap because it's rent controlled) and then try and force people out and raise the rent. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jul 20 11:02:29 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by Easy on Wed Jul 20 10:37:24 2011. your latter example though also is an exmple of how crappy deteriorated buildings say that way when owners have no incentive to fix them up. it would have also been 'cheap' because of low rents, no upgrades or maintenance done. the bew owner fixing the place up should also mean higher rents. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 20 11:06:33 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by Easy on Wed Jul 20 10:37:24 2011. In theory a landlord could sign a long term lease with a tenant that specifies fixed rent increases over that period. The new landlord should have to abide by the agreement, but the nature of such an agreement should be made known to the new landlord before concluding the sale. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jul 20 11:07:44 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jul 20 11:02:29 2011. Yeah but regardless of that, if that's the agreement that is in place then they need to honor it. Landlords in LA will buy buildings cheap because they have strings attached (sometimes rent control, sometimes historic statues, other stuff) and then don't want to honor their agreement which was the reason it was inexpensive to begin with. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jul 20 11:49:48 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 19 15:02:19 2011. Because a study said he only visits states he wants to campaign in, during his whole term in office. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jul 20 11:55:43 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by Easy on Wed Jul 20 11:07:44 2011. And some low income homeowners do the same thing. They qualify for special discounts through a city program that allows them to buy a new city built house that would be worth 50% more in a competetive market and then want to sell it shortly after moving in and keep the profit. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Jul 20 12:06:39 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Jul 19 16:57:23 2011. They have to go somewhere...Right. They end becoming some other community's problem. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Jul 20 12:09:40 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by orange blossom special on Tue Jul 19 00:28:23 2011. I don't know if you're being serious or not but the election of Barack Obama and the total and complete eradication of racism are not mutually exclusive, nor will they ever be. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Jul 20 12:11:32 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Jul 20 06:12:18 2011. Park Slope? |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Jul 20 12:16:30 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 19 17:03:25 2011. And why do you say "pushing people out of their homes"? No one is forcing the people out of the projects in Harlem or Queensbridge. The projects are still there, and the demos have not changed.The article itself spoke of how people that owned a home or business in the area couldn't afford the increasing property taxes, and therefore had to leave. And this doesn't include the landlords increasing the rent as Easy mentioned. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Jul 20 12:17:16 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by JayMan on Tue Jul 19 17:47:16 2011. Unfortunately, this is the truth. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Jul 20 12:20:53 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by Easy on Wed Jul 20 10:37:24 2011. force people out and raise the rentFor some reason, landlords somehow feel that it's okay to gouge white newcomers. And why not, the tenants will gleefully throw money at them in order to be one of the first to discover the newest hot spot without doing much research. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Jul 20 12:21:09 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 19 17:29:05 2011. I see what you mean, and agree with your viewpoint. Interesting to hear of a rural area traditionally voting Democratic - usually it's just the opposite (well, at least in Pennsylvania). |
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Posted by JayMan on Wed Jul 20 13:22:14 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Jul 20 12:09:40 2011. As long as there are different races, racism (otherwise known as ethnocentrism) can never be completely eliminated... |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Wed Jul 20 13:27:28 2011, in response to Re: Changing Demographics in D.C., posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 18 23:52:03 2011. Prince George County used to be nice. It was full of black intellects and professionals. Now, Prince George County is worse than East New York. The sons and daughters of these black intellectuals made bad decisions and tried to emulate their urban counterparts in inner city DC. |
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