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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 09:29:46 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 08:57:45 2011.

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Basically calling someone you've never met a bad parent is crossing a line. Call me any name in the book, but that's just not done. And that's a line I've never crossed with you.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by R30A on Sun Apr 24 10:06:51 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sat Apr 23 21:34:25 2011.

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His actions are fairly consistant with the CWAR.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 14:12:53 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 06:29:32 2011.

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Excellent post.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 14:14:13 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by JayMan on Sun Apr 24 09:21:06 2011.

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Where did you hear that SAT scores are falling?

On some idiotic radio show that he listens to.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 14:23:18 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 17:33:03 2011.

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What they teach in schools today is sanitized White history with a touch of token feel-good stuff about other groups.

It's a false and airbrushed narrative.
What kids are being "taught" in history class is a gigantic crock of shit.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 14:25:27 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 24 02:06:56 2011.

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Magnificent post!!

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 14:29:24 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 02:26:53 2011.

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And if another parent doesn't do such a good job, oh well.

"oh well" my ass!

If parents don't do a good job, SOCIETY pays.
That's me, you and everybody else.
That's why society, through the school system needs to teach them the stuff they need to know so that they can overcome the obstacles put up by their shitty parents and thus level the playing field.



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Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 14:45:33 2011, in response to Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by JayMan on Sun Apr 24 08:58:50 2011.

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This behavior is not at all uncommon for black girls. Spend any length of time in most any "inner city" (I really am amused by all the code words people have cooked up for "black") school, particularly in the deepest part of the ghetto, and this is what you will see.

Do these girls strike you as "ghetto"? They seem like regular middle-class girls.

Ghetto was just a place at one time. Today, it's a mentality and a lifestyle. These girls seem like lifestyle or mentally ghetto, when in reality, they enjoy a nice middle class lifestyle.

I guess you're saying that they're simply culturally black.


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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 16:42:31 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 09:29:46 2011.

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Hey pal, if the shoe doesn't fit, don't tie the laces. Personally, I think it looks pretty sharp on you.

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Another moronic reply by smaz (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas)

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 16:50:44 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 14:14:13 2011.

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Here, asshole Don't forget to look at the excel spreadsheet linked to the report. If you need help understanding it, I'll find you a 1st grader to interpret it for yo.






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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 17:00:41 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 14:29:24 2011.

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Another non-parent who knows better....pathetic

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Re: Another moronic reply by Train Dude (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas)

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 17:04:36 2011, in response to Another moronic reply by smaz (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 16:50:44 2011.

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Hey illiterate dumbass, it's you who needs that 1st grader to walk you through kindergarten-level reading comprehension, since the report you posted is about the DURHAM public schools.

How stupid are you feeling right now?

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Re: Another moronic reply by Train Dude (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 24 17:11:09 2011, in response to Re: Another moronic reply by Train Dude (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 17:04:36 2011.

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"The average score for North Carolina and the United States also decreased."

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 17:21:30 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 16:42:31 2011.

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Low man, very low.

You know, for a while I thought it was actually possible to have a serious discussion with you. But I should have known that you were like so many other right wing nuts: when faced with a serious argument, either find an axcuse to disqualify the person who makes it from even having an opinion in an attempt to avoid having to counter the argument, or simply go way below the belt and bring out the most vile personal attacks, of the kind you only dare say from the anonymity of your computer, but would never dare tell that person to his face. Absolutely pathetic.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 24 17:32:51 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 17:21:30 2011.

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Train Dude is actually one of the most reasonable people to debate on this board. He's very opinionated, of course; but he is very strong in his beliefs and doesn't bullshit around them. Don't take it personal, his debate style is just very direct.

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Re: Another moronic reply by smaz (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas)

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 17:33:20 2011, in response to Re: Another moronic reply by Train Dude (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 17:04:36 2011.

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NO MORON. They gave numbers for North Carolina and the US as well. Is it that you can't read or you just didn't bother to read?

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 17:35:36 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 24 17:32:51 2011.

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How do you debate a flatliner?

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 17:37:11 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 17:21:30 2011.

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Ah so there we have it. "Right Wing Nuts" . For the record, komrade, I never said that you were a bad parent. You inferred it. As for saying it to your face, why bother? You talk out of your ass anyway. You really should ignore me if I make you this irrational.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 17:38:05 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 17:35:36 2011.

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I've been trying smaz, but you prove that you can't. You can't even read a simple excel sheet.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 17:45:21 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 24 17:32:51 2011.

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I'm sorry, but he has ignored pretty much half of the arguments made here in this discussion challenging his stance, good arguments at that, not because the arguments were bad, but simply because the person who made them didn't have children. And it's extremely hard NOT to take things personal when you get called a bad parent by someone who's never met you, and who does so simply because I have the time to respond here. That's not being strong in your beliefs, it takes a class A asshole to do that.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 17:50:18 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 17:37:11 2011.

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"I never said that you were a bad parent. You inferred it"

You're damn straight I did! It's hard not to, with something like this:

"if I were you I'd spend considerably more time with the child and less time here. That is unless you want the state to do the pre-K training too."

"You talk out of your ass anyway."

Apparently so, seeing as how you have no clue whatsoever what I have said on topic.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 17:59:06 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 17:37:11 2011.

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He's got some nerve telling people on here to say stuff to his face if he's really living in Belgium . . . is he offering airfare?

PS. Lots of his antisemitic rants on this thread.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 18:03:37 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 17:59:06 2011.

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Thanks for the info. Is he really living in Belgium or is he just trying to elude people?

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 18:04:49 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 17:59:06 2011.

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he pwn3d you throughout that thread.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 18:06:08 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 18:04:49 2011.

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ewwwwwwww. "pwn3d". That sounds so pussified.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 18:07:26 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 18:04:49 2011.

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How, through lies?

The only thing he tripped me up over was Paul Belien. Other than that, he really looked like a sicko antisemite.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 18:08:19 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 18:06:08 2011.

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Yup, that one's over like the rest of 1337.

Not that it's true, because it ain't.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 18:09:40 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 17:00:41 2011.

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The notion of being a parent in an actual family is antithetical to a leftist. There's a reason the phrase "abolition of the family" appears in the Communist Manifesto . . .

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 18:15:05 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 18:09:40 2011.

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There's a reason the phrase "abolition of the family" appears in the Communist Manifesto . . .




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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 18:18:12 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 18:15:05 2011.

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What's the matter smazzo? Tell me again about how you are going to get a first grader to interpret that spreadsheet. Instead of posting silly clips, why not man up and admit your mistake.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 18:19:10 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 17:59:06 2011.

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My God you're such a troll.



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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 18:20:19 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 18:19:10 2011.

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hahahhahahh - the last lament of the internet loser.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 18:20:34 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 18:07:26 2011.

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I never even talked about Jews, you imbecile.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 18:24:00 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 18:20:34 2011.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 18:24:55 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 18:24:00 2011.

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Didn't figure you were THAT old yet...

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 18:27:15 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 18:07:26 2011.

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Yeah, calling Bush a center-left liberal greatly enhanced your credibility Denier Boy.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 18:29:17 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 18:24:55 2011.

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Are you really living in Belgium?

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 18:29:27 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 18:24:55 2011.

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Didn't figure you were THAT old yet...

haha.
Indeed his brain function hasn't turned 3 yet but exceeds that of a 14-month old though (I think).

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 18:30:45 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 18:29:27 2011.

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Yet you are the one who can't understand a simple spreadsheet graph

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 18:54:55 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 18:18:12 2011.

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I wonder if they also post on democraticunderground and dailykos. They behave exactly the same way as the libs on there . . . it's uncanny how uniform the behavior is.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 18:56:09 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 18:54:55 2011.

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A cookie cutter couldn't make them more alike

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 19:02:28 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 17:45:21 2011.

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"I'm sorry, but he has ignored pretty much half of the arguments made here in this discussion challenging his stance, good arguments at that, not because the arguments were bad, but simply because the person who made them didn't have children."

The American Philosopher, Allen Stewart Konigsberg, wrote in 1977,

"Those who can't do, teach and those who can't teach, teach gym!"

If I want advice on athletics, I might ask a gym teacher but if I want advice on raising a child ............... well, I'm certain that even you can figure out the rest.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 19:03:27 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 19:02:28 2011.

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That's one scary philosopher.

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A little help for my buddy, smaz (was: Another GOPer with helpful ideas)

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 19:06:25 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 24 18:29:27 2011.

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A little help for my buddy, Smaz





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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 19:07:21 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 19:03:27 2011.

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And he's a liberal,too

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 24 19:50:37 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 19:07:21 2011.

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Unquestionably so.



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Re: Another moronic reply by Train Dude (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas)

Posted by JayMan on Sun Apr 24 22:35:32 2011, in response to Re: Another moronic reply by Train Dude (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 24 17:11:09 2011.

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With the exception of Hispanic seniors, the drop in NC and the US was less than 3 points. By itself, barely a cause for alarm.

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Re: Another moronic reply by smaz (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas)

Posted by JayMan on Sun Apr 24 22:39:15 2011, in response to Re: Another moronic reply by smaz (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 17:33:20 2011.

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With the exception of Hispanics, the drop in SAT scores for NC and the US was 3 points or less (and the Hispanic drop is likely due to the arrival of new immigrants). Taken in isolation it is barely a cause for alarm. And if it is part of a larger downward trend, well, it may just be evidence that breeding lately has been dysgenic...

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Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas)

Posted by JayMan on Sun Apr 24 22:46:57 2011, in response to Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 14:45:33 2011.

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Do these girls strike you as "ghetto"? They seem like regular middle-class girls.

They could be. We don't know.

Ghetto was just a place at one time. Today, it's a mentality and a lifestyle. These girls seem like lifestyle or mentally ghetto, when in reality, they enjoy a nice middle class lifestyle.

I guess you're saying that they're simply culturally black.


Actually I'm just saying they are black.

If they were middle class, then this is an example of what is known as "regression towards the mean." Blacks and Latinos that are middle class have a higher average IQ than their respective general populations. However, their children will be closer to their group averages in IQ and all other traits (this is true of all races). This is what I suspect may be going on in LI and other suburban areas; black and brown people that escape the ghetto and settle in nice middle class neighborhoods have children that are closer to their group means. In the case of black and brown people, this means more ghetto-like behavior.

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Re: Another moronic reply by Train Dude (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas)

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 25 00:21:35 2011, in response to Re: Another moronic reply by Train Dude (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by JayMan on Sun Apr 24 22:35:32 2011.

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First you said that there was no drop. Now you say there is a drop BUT according to you, it's no cause for alarm. Frankly, I find you intellectually dishonest.

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