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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Apr 23 17:42:30 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 17:40:22 2011. i have visited some schools here and a few things have changedhopefully for the better |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Apr 23 17:43:20 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 17:41:42 2011. i was out of school and in junior college in 1971 |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 17:46:47 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Apr 23 17:42:30 2011. Do you mean with the drum corps? I'm not sure what that would tell you. All I can say is that my kids learned much more in California public education than just "white history". If anything the schools go overboard to included everyone. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Apr 23 17:49:19 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 17:46:47 2011. now its a different story easyi am sure a lot has changed some for the better some for the worst we do still have our drum section but it is a volunteer based group |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Apr 23 20:22:27 2011, in response to Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 14:18:46 2011. That was in Baltimore!!??I thought it was Haiti or Jamaica or one of those Third World Islands! Well, Baltimore is where Nancy Pelosi is from. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Apr 23 20:24:19 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Apr 23 17:15:44 2011. Then you learned about Henry Ford who use to say:Never complain, never explain. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Apr 23 20:28:43 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Apr 23 20:24:19 2011. Henry Ford. Now THERE was an Anti Semite!!! |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Apr 23 20:31:43 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Apr 23 20:28:43 2011. So are you!You want to throw everyone that doesn't agree with you in jail. There might be a few Jewish people like that. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Apr 23 20:35:40 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Apr 23 20:31:43 2011. The politics you espouse postulate that you, as a public employee, are sub human. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 20:49:50 2011, in response to Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Apr 23 20:22:27 2011. Allegedly in Baltimore where Dan Lawrence is from. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Sat Apr 23 21:28:20 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 09:38:03 2011. Trollog is the very definition of a troll. Just look at his response to your post: it's like 80% of his posts: just echoeing whatever you say, with some slam at 'liberals' or something similar included. The other 20% are threads about the evil EU and Germany nobody reads or responds to anymore, or other threads he tries to derail by making them into 'the EU/Germany is evil' threads. Look up 'internet troll', and you'll see his picture.I believe I asked you to tell me exactly what 'extreme socialist' views I have shown. Something I've asked three times now, yet you have never been able to answer. So, are you going to back up those accusations, or are you one who shits without flushing? |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Sat Apr 23 21:34:25 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 13:41:31 2011. Someone brings an argument to the table that you can't simply refute, so you simply disqualify them from having an opinion. Glenn Beck tactics again... |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Apr 23 21:45:21 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Apr 23 20:35:40 2011. Another Nazi idealogy!Sub-humans. Thank you, goodbye! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 23 22:19:40 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sat Apr 23 21:34:25 2011. LOL . . . complete BS isn't an argument, so you shouldn't bring it. Never mind bringing up Glenn Beck . . . |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 22:30:19 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sat Apr 23 21:28:20 2011. Once you make the blanket statement that the state has the right to instill in children attitudes about religion, alternate lifestyles and multiculturalism that the parent may not agree with, I think that you've crossed the line to extreme socialism. Now, I've answered your question about what exactly I find to be your extreme socialist views. I know that you disagree - fine. You've had you say and I've had mine. We need not discuss this further. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 23 22:33:54 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 22:30:19 2011. Once you make the blanket statement that the state has the right to instill in children attitudes about religion, alternate lifestyles and multiculturalism that the parent may not agree with, I think that you've crossed the line to extreme socialismThat's definitely extreme socialism. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 22:35:37 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sat Apr 23 21:34:25 2011. What are you, a fucking moron or just an incompetent asshole? I've raised children successfully. My daughter is a licensed teacher and a registered nurse along with being a competent mother of 4 well adjusted children. The last thing I want or need is for someone who has never had children or raised children to give me advice on what is best for mine. If you want her input, it's there for the taking. If you want the state to make decisions on how your child should be raised, that's fine with me. I don't. As I've said, I think we've exhausted this discussion and I see nothing more to be gained by continuing it. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 22:36:44 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 23 22:33:54 2011. He just doesn't want to see it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 23 22:42:13 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 22:36:44 2011. And I thought Nilet was bad, with his "Obama is moderate to far-right". The brainwash is completely on with people like that . . . |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 22:43:59 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sat Apr 23 21:34:25 2011. By the way, dick-head, if what you say is true and you do have a child under 3 years old, if I were you I'd spend considerably more time with the child and less time here. That is unless you want the state to do the pre-K training too.As for me- it's nearly 11PM. I'm dropping my wife off at work and then heading out with my friends for a few hours. Remind me tomorrow and I'll explain that concept too, comrade. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 22:45:09 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 23 22:42:13 2011. ab-so-fucking-lutely. It's like pissing against the wind, here. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Sat Apr 23 23:15:45 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Apr 23 17:27:10 2011. I was in school in the 60's Salaam, in the Bronx and I concur with Fred.Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Apr 23 23:28:51 2011, in response to Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 20:49:50 2011. Where Dan is at (BSM) its about the only nice place there, and the B&O museum.But driving between the two, roll up the windows and lock the doors! |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 23 23:49:15 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 13:43:54 2011. Nor will it be.As a taxpayer, I have a stake in what kind of education American children receive. If they don't (and the whole point behind my response to begin with)is that the schools MUST fill in the gaps between the realities kids will be dealing with and the bigotry they get from home. It's hard enough to comprehend how they'll be able to deal with tomorrow's issues when they're still being fed 19th century ideas. It's hard to comprehend how they will function in a diverse world after being fed a line of bigotry. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 02:02:19 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 23 23:49:15 2011. What a crock of horse shit. |
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Posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 24 02:06:56 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 02:02:19 2011. I'm going to have to take a divided line here. On one hand, until the child is 18, I believe that parents should have some say as to what their children will / will not learn. On the other hand, as society is becoming more and more "open" about issues such as homosexuality and multiculturalism, it's important for children to be exposed to everything out there so that they aren't shocked that the "real-world" isn't the same as their sheltered lifestyle.We're raising a generation of overprotected "pussies". Parents don't allow children to play on the street anymore (without constant supervision); kids are constantly supervised, tracked, and sheltered from the outside world by their parents. At some point in time, the real world sets in. From my observation, the kids who were the most sheltered during childhood end up becoming the most "wild" during their early-Adulthood and are probably more prone to end up using drugs, pregnant, etc. than their less sheltered counterparts. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Apr 24 02:15:03 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 13:48:47 2011. They didn't at all in my school; it was up to the Gay-Straight-Alliance to bring awareness to the student body. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 02:16:08 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 24 02:06:56 2011. Thanks! So when you have children, you can expose them to homosexuality, polygamy, multiculturalism and anything else you like that's legal and not harmful whenever you like and I promise that I will not tell you you are right or wrong for doing it. That is your right as a parent. It's my right as a parent to expose my child to those things when I deem it appropriate. Sorry, there is simply no compromise on the subject, here. |
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Posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 24 02:20:11 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 02:16:08 2011. I understand where you're coming from, and I respect your point. My parents agreed more with your school of thought. The fact still remains though that when the child moves out of your house, they are going to end up exposed to homosexuality, polygamy, multiculturalism, etc. and they won't be as well adjusted as other children that have been exposed to it. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 02:21:22 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Apr 24 02:15:03 2011. They didn't in any school that I went to either. Somehow we survived. Some went on to a heterosexual lifestyle. Some went on to a homosexual lifestyle. I was not scarred by the state not teaching me multiculturalism and, in fact, I married someone not of my faith. I have friends from most cultures and most backgrounds. And you know what? I did it without the state indoctrinating me. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 02:26:53 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 24 02:20:11 2011. That's fine. Even before they leave the house, they may be exposed to it via friends, TV, Movies or even experimentation. It's the parents job to deal with the issues and questions in a mature way. The state is not needed here. And if another parent doesn't do such a good job, oh well. No teacher can teach these subjects without their own personal prejudices seeping into the lessons. It's human nature. Parents will at least bring sensitivity to the subject instead of a dry clinical explanation. |
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Posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 24 02:27:10 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 02:21:22 2011. Actually, to be honest. While they didn't teach polygamy, homosexuality, or the like when I was in school; they did teach multiculturalism. However, they did it in such a way that it wasn't incredibly effective (actually, when we were doing the multicultural lessons, I thought it was stupid and culturally divisive).Nonetheless, it would be nice for kids to learn about things (and discuss it) in a school environment before they say the wrong thing to the wrong person and get their ass kicked by someone who they accidentally offended. |
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Posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 24 02:28:33 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 02:26:53 2011. As strange as it sounds, the more I am thinking this over, the more I am beginning to come to your viewpoint. My argument, as I posted in another post, is that I am just afraid the the kid will end up saying the wrong thing to the wrong person and either a.) get accused of being a "hater" or b.) get their ass kicked. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Apr 24 02:29:57 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 02:26:53 2011. The Bible does tell the story of Sodom and Gommorah and plainly tells the story of what went on there. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 02:34:35 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 24 02:27:10 2011. It can't be effective because the teacher either has his own prejudices or his own agenda. Do you think that a teacher who is heterosexual will be fair and balanced when discussing homosexuality. If the teacher is homosexual, do you think his portrayal of a heterosexual lifestyle will be balanced. It can't be because he's speaking about unfamiliar territory. He's got to be more comfortable on one side of the fence and that "prejudice" will seep into the discussion. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 02:37:13 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 24 02:28:33 2011. It happens. Husbands say it to wives and wives say it to husbands to. Kids are exposed to multiculturalism these days in school and what do they call each other on the trains and busses. It just doesn't work like they drew it up in the playbook. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Apr 24 03:04:30 2011, in response to Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Apr 22 23:37:40 2011. Ah, fine, upstanding growing young women...sigh...(-_-) |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Apr 24 03:12:56 2011, in response to Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by JayMan on Sat Apr 23 13:07:14 2011. Wow...I'd say "you have got to be kidding me" but sadly you aren't at all...and you know, the first person to make this about race was you...again...There's a variety of examples of "skanks in training" in other races as well... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 03:25:14 2011, in response to Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Apr 22 23:37:40 2011. Those girls are very young. 11 or 12 I'd guess.What are they complaining about? A girl at school who they dislike? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 03:27:39 2011, in response to Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by JayMan on Sat Apr 23 13:07:14 2011. For these girls to go on a long violent profanity laced rant, obviously there might be a parenting issue.AWAR. Arguing With A Righty? |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Apr 24 03:30:54 2011, in response to Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 03:27:39 2011. It could be. When parents are out there swearing at their young kids, it does make one think. Of course, they could pick this up from school, too. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 03:32:39 2011, in response to Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Apr 24 03:30:54 2011. Yup. There's no way these girls could carry on like this without their parents knowing that they curse and physically threaten other girls. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 05:29:09 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 22:43:59 2011. Wow, you really do take 'asshole' to a whole new level, don't you? |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 06:29:32 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 22:30:19 2011. "the state has the right to instill in children attitudes about religion, alternate lifestyles and multiculturalism that the parent may not agree with"I've never said the state has the right to 'instill' attitudes about rligion, lifestyles or muticulturalism in children. But there's a HUGE gap between the kind of brainwashing you're alluding to, which is one extreme, and the other extreme, which is what you're supporting, i.e. that the subjects shouldn't even be talked about. There's an enormous middle ground here, where the subjects CAN be talked about without any kind of brainwashing going on. It's such a typically right-wing idea to immediately assume some kind of government conspiracy to turn the children into little liberals. And now that attitude leads to draconian measures like this, where we now start installing new taboos in schools. You've said before that you don't like political correctness taken to the extreme. Well neither do I. What you don't seem to understand is that this measure IS that political correctness taken to the extreme. Compare it to the example you yourself gave: your granddaughter having to talk to the school psychologist because she gave another child a peck on the cheek. something as completely innocent as that having those consequences is a complete overreaction to the fear of sexual harassment at schools and is most certainly 'PC gone mad'. In the same way, banning ALL talk about sexuality except heterosexuality is a complete overreaction to the fear that schools would start indoctrinating the children or offending some parents. That too is 'PC gone mad'. Whatever happened to 'being reasonable' in making and applying rules? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 08:52:37 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 06:29:32 2011. Look, guy, I didn't say the subjects should never be talked about. If you cannot read and comprehend what you are reading, then we shouldn't be discussing the subject. I said that I felt that it was inappropriate do discuss these issues form K through grade 6. If you don't think that a teacher's attitude on a subject carries more weight with a child than the parents at those ages, well, you are very naive. The purpose of teaching in the lower grades is to give the students the basic tools so that when they get to the higher grades they can not only start to learn in depth but to also begin to process the concepts of culture that you want rammed down their throats at such an early age.I said that beyond that, if the school wanted to teach said subjects, I think the student would be able to filter the information and process it with less influence from the teacher. If you want your child to understand these concepts, why can't you teach them at home, from your perspective instead of a teachers? Do you want the teacher's biases to supplant your own? Seems to me that when educators start asking why SAT scores are falling, your failed philosophy of education should come up in blinking lights...... By the way, where did you get your teacher training ? Like I said before, pal, I'm not interested in your failed old ideas about education. Fortunately, my family, with the exception of the youngest grand daughter is out of the clutches of the meddling mindless minions such as you are advocating for... Let them do their social experimentation with your child. He'll be a better man for it. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 08:57:45 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 05:29:09 2011. You are still miles ahead of me, komrade! |
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Posted by JayMan on Sun Apr 24 08:58:50 2011, in response to Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 03:27:39 2011. No, differences between parenting does not cause differences in how children turn out. This is only shocking in that it has the honor of being filmed; and even that is not so spectacular anymore. Why I am less shocked than most everybody else here is because blacks have lower IQ's, higher sex drives, and are more aggressive than whites on average. This behavior is not at all uncommon for black girls. Spend any length of time in most any "inner city" (I really am amused by all the code words people have cooked up for "black") school, particularly in the deepest part of the ghetto, and this is what you will see. |
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Posted by JayMan on Sun Apr 24 09:10:00 2011, in response to Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Apr 24 03:12:56 2011. Race is a fact of life, one that has become a massive elephant in the room in many respects, with people now trying to pretend that it doesn't exist as if somehow that will make racial problems go away. In any case was being somewhat facetious.I view this much less of an example of "skanks in training" or more of an example of young "skanks" showing their colors. |
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Posted by JayMan on Sun Apr 24 09:21:06 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 08:52:37 2011. I said that I felt that it was inappropriate do discuss these issues form K through grade 6. If you don't think that a teacher's attitude on a subject carries more weight with a child than the parents at those ages, well, you are very naive.There's only two reasons to be concerned about this: if you want your children to grow up hating gays or if you think that the teacher can somehow make your child gay. Well you can relax, no teacher—even the most flamboyantly gay one who extols homosexuality—can make your child gay. And if your intention is have your child hate gays, then this just makes a case for why tolerance for gays should be taught, to break the chain of homophobia. This is seems to be the concern underlying your argument, merely vehement homophobia. Seems to me that when educators start asking why SAT scores are falling, your failed philosophy of education should come up in blinking lights...... Where did you hear that SAT scores are falling? If they are, you know what the explanation for that is. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Apr 24 09:26:07 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 24 08:52:37 2011. "I didn't say the subjects should never be talked about."And yet, that's exactly what this law is proposing. So do you support it, or not? "If you cannot read and comprehend what you are reading, then we shouldn't be discussing the subject." Maybe you should apply that advice to yourself: you've repeatedly accused me of wanting schools to indoctrinate kids, while I've never said any such thing. Case in point: "the concepts of culture that you want rammed down their throats at such an early age" I what now? Want it rammed down their throats? Where did I say that exactly? Right: nowhere. So please, before telling other they need to 'comprehend what they are reading', make sure you do the same first, because I think I made it VERY clear that that is NOT what I want. How exactly is it me saying 'I don't want the subject to be banned' somehow becomes 'I want it rammed down their throats'? "Seems to me that when educators start asking why SAT scores are falling, your failed philosophy of education should come up in blinking lights." Funny that, as my 'philosophy' is basically the one applied to education over here, and our kids pretty much clean your American kids' clocks in almost every field... But you would need to understand what that philosophy IS first, because right now, you're just assuming to know, while you clearly don't, as you've demonstrated repeatedly that you only read what you want to read. |
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