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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 22 20:28:05 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by SMAZ on Fri Apr 22 20:03:23 2011.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 20:31:48 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 19:37:38 2011.

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Hmm...an on-site school psychologist? For something like that? What happened to just explaining to the little girl why what she did was wrong, like what principals and teachers used to do without bringing in the police and such?

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 20:32:40 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 22 20:01:59 2011.

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Precisely...

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 20:33:01 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Apr 22 19:58:44 2011.

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Um...ever hear of a teenage pregnancy?

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 20:34:16 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 22 20:18:42 2011.

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I highly agree! Sex ed is more than just "how to have sex", after all...

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The Ultimate Solution for Stacey Campfield

Posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 22 20:47:04 2011, in response to Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Apr 22 13:51:28 2011.

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Stacey Campfield needs to have his fingers, hands, arms, legs, and penis cut off. He is not human. He must be hurt to the point of being dead and whomover kills him should not go to jail because he is not human.

Homophobes are not humans. They are humanoid organ bags. Kill one, save 50 enlightened lives. If only I could find one to beat up in some alley and bite, cut, and bust the skull of.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Apr 22 20:50:52 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 22 20:28:05 2011.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 22 21:01:13 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 19:37:38 2011.

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That's insane.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 22 21:02:47 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 22 20:18:42 2011.

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KIds need to have age-appropriate sex ed at any age. By the time they know what's going on, many bad or hateful attitudes towards sex and sexuality are already developing.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 22 21:09:35 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by SMAZ on Fri Apr 22 20:50:52 2011.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:12:10 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 20:33:01 2011.

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Yeah and with all the sex ed getting younger and younger, teen pregnancy rates have gone down by how much?

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:14:12 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 22 21:02:47 2011.

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And at what age did you teach your children about sex?

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 22 21:14:50 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 22 21:02:47 2011.

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The problem is that some kids learn such things from their parents. We should think about requiring that kids of a certain age attend a government sponsored summer camp where they can be instructed on how to think the right way without the negative influences that they encounter at home. Or even better parents should be required to pass a government test so that they can demonstrate correct thinking before being allowed to raise any children. Just throwing some ideas out there.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:17:39 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 22 21:14:50 2011.

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I like the way you think, Mr. Orwell :()

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:19:58 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 22 21:14:50 2011.

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IAWTP

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 22 21:23:52 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:19:58 2011.

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Woah! That was intended to be over-the-top sarcasm!

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Re:

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 22 21:25:56 2011, in response to The Ultimate Solution for Stacey Campfield, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Apr 22 20:47:04 2011.

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No, you're the one who's not human. Why haven't you sold your organs yet?

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:32:22 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:19:58 2011.

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DUH?

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:32:29 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 22 21:23:52 2011.

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you said and i agree
''parents should be required to pass a government test so that they can demonstrate correct thinking before being allowed to raise any children''
IAWTP

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:33:59 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:32:22 2011.

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read my response to easy
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parents should be required to pass a government test so that they can demonstrate correct thinking before being allowed to raise any children
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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 21:34:16 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:12:10 2011.

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Hmm, they were dropping in the 90's and beyond, right up until at least 2005, according to Time Magazine . Interestingly it seemed to jump up again.

Does that mean we should try to hide this information from teens, go back to preaching nothing but "abstinence until marriage", so they can rebel and info about sex on the street or internet, though? Kids don't get interested in sex at the age of 16, 18, etc...it starts younger than that, which was my point, and it's shocking what kids know these days at various ages.

And with all the STDs out there and all the free porn sites displaying unsafe sexual practices, I think it's important for the youth to understand what's out there, debunk myths, and protect themselves...but that's just me, anyway.



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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 21:35:18 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 22 21:02:47 2011.

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I highly agree with this post!

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:37:42 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:33:59 2011.

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The first rule of holes is that when you are in one you should stop digging. Now - Read Easy's response to you.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:38:39 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:37:42 2011.

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does not change what my parents should have done and did not

parents should be required to pass a government test so that they can demonstrate correct thinking before being allowed to raise any children

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:39:55 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 21:34:16 2011.

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Nooooooooooooo but accept that any decrease in teen pregnancy correlation with sex education is anecdotal. At what age did you teach your children about sex?

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 21:40:31 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 22 21:23:52 2011.

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ROFLMAO!!!!!

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:40:32 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 21:35:18 2011.

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Not surprising

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 21:41:26 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:38:39 2011.

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What is "correct thinking" in a country where people are free to express and debate their ideas, regardless of how controversial they may be?

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:41:29 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:38:39 2011.

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You may be proof that Easy was right after all.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:42:13 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:41:29 2011.

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my arguement was NOT with him at all

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:43:44 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 21:41:26 2011.

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well i agree with easy on this :

parents should be required to pass a government test so that they
can demonstrate correct thinking before being allowed to raise any children

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:43:53 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:42:13 2011.

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Sorry, I must have misunderstood you :()

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 22 21:44:03 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 21:41:26 2011.

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Correct thinking is what you want kids to be taught in school.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:44:48 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:43:53 2011.

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no problem

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:45:55 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:43:44 2011.

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What if they fail the test? Should the children be taken away from the parents and raised by the state while they are "re-educated"? Or should people have to pass a comprehensive test before they can get a pregnancy license?

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Apr 22 21:46:23 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:43:44 2011.

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3X

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:47:42 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:45:55 2011.

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then get educated .... hopefully by some common sense

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 21:48:01 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:39:55 2011.

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Oh yes, I can certainly agree with that. I didn't mean to state that teaching kids about sex would eradicate teenage pregnancy (one could argue that the "issue" is more than just sex ed in that case), just like telling kids all about the dangers of smoking didn't eliminate the practice of kids picking up cigarettes and smoking.

Also, I didn't have my kids yet...but I do believe in the power of knowledge and education, and am witnessing that the more people try to "hide" things from kids, the more the kids seems to be finding out on their own...

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Apr 22 21:48:11 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:47:42 2011.

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I agree, thats what you need!

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:58:45 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 22 21:48:01 2011.

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Let me give you a little bit of fact here. Except for one very confused individual, the majority of people advocating the position that the government should make the decision of what and when to teach children in issues other than academics, such as sex education, multiculturalism and religion are the same people who have no children. The people who have children want to teach their children what they feel is appropriate based on their moral or ethical standards. Now, of course some idiot is now going to say, "Sure, teach your kids that the world is flat." or some such nonsense, knowing that is not what I meant. Of course, once children begin to enter their teens, they begin to naturally form their own opinions. If and when you do have children, I'm certain that you will want your children raised with your moral & ethical codes and not by one decided on by a committee of civil servants and politicians.

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Re: Another blah blah with blah blah blah

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 22 22:03:33 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 21:58:45 2011.

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How come it is that a good number of liberals don't do any basic study into left-wing politics?

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by AlM on Fri Apr 22 22:11:31 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Apr 22 18:27:56 2011.

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I don't even think they should discuss any sex, gay or straight, in elementary or middle school.

Ah, but the bill doesn't ban the discussion of sexuality, where I would tend to agree (certainly nothing explicit); it only bans discussion of homosexuality. It specifically exempts heterosexuality, if you can believe the write-up.







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The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas)

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 22:33:12 2011, in response to Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Apr 22 13:51:28 2011.

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But then again, I guess there are some parents who do need government training.



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Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas)

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 22:37:37 2011, in response to The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 22:33:12 2011.

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some people should never be parents train dude

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Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas)

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Apr 22 23:37:40 2011, in response to The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 22:33:12 2011.

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Thats disgusting...............like these little savages!


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Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas)

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 22 23:41:41 2011, in response to Re: The Exception That Proves The Rule (was: Another GOPer with hateful ideas), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Apr 22 23:37:40 2011.

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ummm, ummm, ummm

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 01:16:44 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:38:39 2011.

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A license to have kids? Come on now.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 01:17:16 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 21:43:44 2011.

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Easy said that as sarcasm.

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Apr 23 01:18:11 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 01:16:44 2011.

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This from a man who won't participate in a census!

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Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Apr 23 01:19:05 2011, in response to Re: Another GOPer with hateful ideas, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Apr 22 18:22:28 2011.

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