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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 11 14:53:41 2025, in response to 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 11 14:52:16 2025. PS. Some of the stories posted on here is incredibly moving and things you don't forget hearing or reading.But outside of the bubble, for most Americans today, this is what I see. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 11 15:14:27 2025, in response to 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 11 14:52:16 2025. It needs to be a Federal holiday |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Sep 11 16:16:14 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 11 15:14:27 2025. That might happen. Theres been talk. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 16:40:06 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 11 15:14:27 2025. As Hiroshima celebrates August 6th with solemn ceremonies, Celebrating 9/11 should be codified as a federal holiday. Thinking back, each year I listen to the rollcall of the names of the dead. 2 of them known to me as brothers of people I worked with. One name not on the list is one of my closest friends who was on the 57th floor of the 2nd tower. He began his eascape after the first plane struck the other tower. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 11 17:27:28 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 11 15:14:27 2025. I don't want to downplay 9/11. It's still a very important day to me. And I felt very uncomfortable one year when I was invited to a barbecue party on 9/11.But Pearl Harbor Day had a much greater impact on our country than 9/11 ever did, and it didn't make it to holiday status. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 17:58:37 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 11 17:27:28 2025. They are both equally important. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 17:58:37 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 11 17:27:28 2025. They are both equally important. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 18:05:40 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 11 17:27:28 2025. The problem with either of them is that if you make it a holiday, it will become like Memorial Day; people will not take it seriously. I’d rather it be forgotten than be cheapened that way. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Sep 11 18:26:16 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 18:05:40 2025. First thing is that companies will bitch and moan about having to pay time & a half plus time to work that day. I think of the MTA for example, everyone will be on overtime. Guess who going to pay for that??Another thing is the day will be cheapened as in "Wow! Cash in for bargains on our great 9/11 sale!" To me that would be a sacrilege. I personally have mixed feelings about it. I have no problem with having things just the way they are. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Sep 11 18:38:28 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Sep 11 18:26:16 2025. September 11 is too close to Labor Day not to be somewhat awkward as a holiday. Yes, I have advocated moving Martin Luther King Day to the Monday before Labor Day, so by taking four days off work you could get a ten-day vacation, but there’s a big difference between before Labor Day and after, because schools are in session afterwards. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Sep 11 18:38:29 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Sep 11 18:26:16 2025. September 11 is too close to Labor Day not to be somewhat awkward as a holiday. Yes, I have advocated moving Martin Luther King Day to the Monday before Labor Day, so by taking four days off work you could get a ten-day vacation, but there’s a big difference between before Labor Day and after, because schools are in session afterwards. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 18:42:38 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Sep 11 18:26:16 2025. The FLSA doesn’t require time and a half holiday pay so it would not have any meaningful effect on most workers. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Sep 11 20:17:55 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 11 18:42:38 2025. FSLA regs will not apply to existing collective bargaining agreements. If it did all the MTA workers (my example here) would lose all their existing overtime payments, never mind any added holidays |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 11 21:18:55 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Sep 11 18:26:16 2025. I remember getting a corporate email wishing everyone a happy memorial day.Corporate doesn't give time and a half. I can't even remember the last time I got time and a half for overtime frankly. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Sep 11 22:06:33 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 11 21:18:55 2025. I speak of the millions of people that keep the city & state running...those wearing blue collars |
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Re: 9/11 is a weird sort of holiday now? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 12 05:44:08 2025, in response to 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 11 14:52:16 2025. What? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Sep 12 09:23:36 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 11 17:27:28 2025. That’s an opinion. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Sep 12 09:23:44 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 11 17:27:28 2025. That’s an opinion. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Sep 12 09:32:28 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Sep 12 09:23:36 2025. Unfortunately differences between pearl harbor and 9/11 are significant. Most glaring is that while Pearl Harbor was a military target attacked by another military with military victims. 9/11 was primarily a civilian target struck by terrorists and with mostly civilian casualties. The two are hardly analogous. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 12 10:27:34 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Sep 11 20:17:55 2025. But most people aren't subject to collective bargaining agreements, so it would not have any meaningful effect on most workers and very few companies would have any reason to complain.Also, the FLSA does still apply. CBAs can go above and beyond the FLSA's overtime requirements. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 12 10:51:34 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Sep 11 16:16:14 2025. My 17 year old daughter said to me yesterday that to her, 9/11 is something from the history books, like WWII was to me.That is the problem. If we don't make 9/11 a federal holiday, people will forget about it. There is already a whole generation of people born after 9/11 who just don't, and can't, know the horror of that day. In addition, with NYC set to elect a radical Muslim as Mayor, its clear people are already forgetting quickly. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 12 12:43:59 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 12 10:51:34 2025. It will be forgotten regardless. If it were made a federal holiday, people will remember it for mattress sales.There's nothing you can do about it. When we're gone, the 9/11 memorial will be thought of the same way as the Prison Ship Martyrs' Monument. It's sad that you think that Mamdani is a "radical Muslim" when in reality he's a radical socialist. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 12 14:56:00 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 12 12:43:59 2025. Prison Ship Martyrs' MonumentEffing English! It's sad that you think that Mamdani is a "radical Muslim" when in reality he's a radical socialist. Much of the right wing has no idea of the difference. To them, AOC = Rashida Tlaib = Greta Thunberg = Osama bin Laden. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Sep 12 15:06:45 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Sep 12 09:32:28 2025. Precisely |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 12 15:10:37 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 12 12:43:59 2025. I disagree. When were gone the 9/11 memorial will be thought of same as the Arizona memorial out on Pearl Harbor is today. They will always have visitors with its gift and souvenir shops...and hopefully (9/11) taught in detail in schools.I got to get out there one of these days. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Sep 12 15:53:07 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 12 12:43:59 2025. It will not be forgotten because it was recorded in vivid video.Although I do agree with the mattress sales. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Sep 12 15:54:57 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Sep 12 15:53:07 2025. You mean i missed a matress sale? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 12 15:55:39 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 12 15:10:37 2025. World War II and its atrocities remain part of popular memory because it was the war of our fathers and grandfathers.In two months I will wish you all a Happy Evacuation Day. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Sep 12 15:59:04 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 12 15:55:39 2025. November 25th but I don't celebrate it or Dawali Day. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Sep 12 16:32:43 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Sep 11 22:06:33 2025. I remember when the cities and the states claimed they were exempt from overtime laws and that only applied to private businesses.Went to the supreme court. Commies think that the gov't cares, when every piece of evidence says otherwiese. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Sep 12 16:33:56 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Sep 12 09:32:28 2025. "9/11 was primarily a civilian target struck by terrorists and with mostly civilian casualties."TBF, they used to call it jew york, and they don't consider any jews to be civilians. There's a reason Chicago wasn't a target. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Sep 12 16:40:48 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 12 10:51:34 2025. This is true. And in retrospect, outside of this site, and some headlines on the internets. I saw nothing yesterday that made the day unique. It has the same feeling as 7/7. I see a random headline on my browsers homepage, and I move on.But, how does one commemorate one event in an ongoing conflict that never ceases without end? Pearl Harbor is history, because the Japanese aren't bombing, and massacring large swaths of land for the past 75 years. I cannot say the same about Islam. I see, today Spain's PM wishing it could use a nuclear bomb to commit genocide. in a public address. A wheel-chair bound guy from Iraq getting stabbed in the neck during a live broadcast in France because he wasn't a muslim. What has the Japanese done? That is history. 9/11 continues everyday. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 12 17:59:33 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Sep 12 16:33:56 2025. Hymietown as I recall |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 12 23:46:54 2025, in response to Re: 9-11 is a werid sort of holiday now, posted by AlM on Fri Sep 12 14:56:00 2025. Trump calls him "my Little Communist" 🤣 😄 |
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