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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 05:47:51 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 26 20:08:00 2014. Hey kid, mind your business and don't open up your cock-holster when myself and Salaam are having a conversation tinged with sarcasm and wit. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Aug 27 07:59:03 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 26 18:21:46 2014. -1 Dave |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Aug 27 09:35:27 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 05:45:36 2014. Because trolls know everything, Bill. That's how. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Aug 27 09:36:02 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 05:47:51 2014. Pwn3d. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Aug 27 09:43:47 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 05:45:36 2014. "How is it that the Subchat crew can magically "see" what happened in Ferguson? I know *I* couldn't see what happens, hence I refrain from stating with authority what happened..."THE SAME SHIT-ASS WAY BILLBKLYN CAN'T SEE RACISM IN AMERICA AGAINST MINORITIES. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Aug 27 09:44:32 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 05:47:51 2014. WHY? WHO DIED AND LEFT YOUR WHITE TRASH MOUTH AS THE BOSS HERE? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 19:39:24 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Aug 27 07:59:03 2014. We could do with one less Dave... |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 19:39:40 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Dave on Wed Aug 27 09:36:02 2014.  Rook3d. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 19:39:43 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 05:47:51 2014. It's an open discussion, dumbass. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 19:39:45 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 05:45:36 2014. This might be a strange concept to you, but some people can actually deduce things they didn't see themselves using logic and the available facts. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 19:39:47 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 05:43:49 2014. Correct. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 22:10:22 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Aug 27 09:43:47 2014. There's racism against EVERY race BY every race! THIW.... |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 22:11:29 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 19:39:45 2014. ^^^Correct!!!! BUT, all the facts and circumstances haven't come out yet! THIS is what I've been trying to say the whole time!!!!!!! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 22:13:24 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Aug 27 09:44:32 2014. White trash?!?! LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!! *I* did, THAT'S who!!!! Now YOU TOO mind your business!!! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 22:15:52 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 19:39:43 2014. Way to go with the baby name-calling! OOOOHHHHH, you got me!!!!!!While it's a public forum, THAT discussion was between me and Salaam. YOU just HAD to interject, and with NOTHING intelligent I might add.... |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 23:14:44 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 22:15:52 2014. Way to go with the baby name-calling! OOOOHHHHH, you got me!!!!!!So you have Reverse GP Chris disorder, where you can only read the end of a post. There's a Monty Python sketch in here somewhere... While it's a public forum, THAT discussion was between me and Salaam. YOU just HAD to interject... Does Salaam object to my input? Apparently not. ...and with NOTHING intelligent I might add.... On the contrary, I utterly demolished your argument by disproving its enthymeme that the experience a white person has living in America is necessarily the same as that of a black person. Since you apparently can't defend your point, you've resorted to claiming it was improper for me to have made it, because apparently OTChat is the Senate where rules of debate must be obeyed at all times. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 23:14:53 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 22:10:22 2014. OK, so how are white people being oppressed? And by who? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 23:15:00 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 22:11:29 2014. BUT, all the facts and circumstances haven't come out yet!Yeah they have. Here are the pertinent facts: -A black man was shot to death. -By a white cop. -In a country with a mind-bogglingly high level of racism. -And a culture that allows police to get away with nearly anything. -Meaning that the murder of black men by white cops occurs very frequently. -Said black man was unarmed. -And had his hands up at the time he was shot. -The police department can't keep its story straight about what supposedly happened. -And reacted to peaceful protests with violent thuggery. -While making repeated death threats. Imagine if the situation was reversed. A white man is killed by a black man who belongs to a gang known for killing white men. He can't keep his story straight about what happened, and fellow members of his gang respond to his arrest with death threats and violent attacks against anybody they consider responsible. Would you seriously claim that we should be "waiting for all the facts to come out" and saying that maybe the black killer was acting in self-defense?x |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 23:35:29 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 23:14:53 2014. I don't fall for that liberal claptrap. Watch the news. Go on-line and peruse police reports...Ond doesn't have to be oppressed OR be an oppressor to be racist. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 23:40:06 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 23:15:00 2014. Yes I would. BTW that entire list is irrelevant. A cop shot an alleged criminal. Doesn't make ONE iota of a difference the race of the cop OR the alleged criminal. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 23:45:24 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 23:14:44 2014. I believe you interjected to my sarcastic-yet-witty comment of "try not to get shot!" which was OBVIOUSLY tongue-in-cheek.Salaam answers EVERY thread he agrees with "IAWTP". Nothing new there. He also WANTS to hate me as he (and other people) cannot fathom the fact that I don't get butthurt and legitamately hate the other posters on here who don't share my opinions as which seems to be par for the course here. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 00:36:23 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 23:35:29 2014. That's not an answer.OK, so how are white people being oppressed? And by who? |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 00:36:39 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 23:40:06 2014. Yes I would.Yuh huh. If I could stop time, I'd look up the inevitable post where you leapt to condemn a black man since we know damn well you made one. BTW that entire list is irrelevant. Put on your logical brain and read the list again. A cop shot an alleged criminal. No one seriously claims Brown was a criminal. Doesn't make ONE iota of a difference the race of the cop OR the alleged criminal. Yeah it does. Read the list again, dumbass. When Group X has a long and varied history of murdering Group Y, the fact that the shooter belongs to Group X and the victim to Group Y is pretty fucking relevant. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 00:36:45 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 27 23:45:24 2014. I believe you interjected to my sarcastic-yet-witty comment of "try not to get shot!" which was OBVIOUSLY tongue-in-cheek.If you think racism is "witty," that could explain why you're acting like such an ass. Salaam answers EVERY thread he agrees with "IAWTP". So you concede he agrees with me. Ergo, my interjection is welcomed. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 28 01:33:39 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 23:14:53 2014. NOBODYIAWTP |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 28 01:34:02 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 00:36:23 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 28 01:34:58 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 00:36:39 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 28 01:42:41 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 23:14:44 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 02:56:15 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 00:36:23 2014. By white liberals and the Jews!!!!! |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 03:06:58 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 02:56:15 2014. Adding antisemitism to your racism, I see. How goes that? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 28 03:10:07 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 03:06:58 2014. Actually, that's what the right has been selling for decades now and the two words mean the same thing. Only difference now is the GOP is desperate, so they're soft-peddling the anti-semitism by calling it "Judeo-Christian" instead. But not a thing has changed since the Freedom rides other than the marketing. :( |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 03:12:51 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 28 03:10:07 2014. Why Jews would ever vote Republican baffles me. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 28 03:18:54 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 03:12:51 2014. Marketing is everything, and really GOOD marketing can make you eat rat poison, looking forward to the flavor. People are just too lazy to look beyond the marketing these days. Cripple the independence of journalism, as is the case the past couple of decades and the truth doesn't matter. Hey, it worked for Goebbels. :( |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 03:40:39 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 00:36:39 2014. Listen, I'm being serious. Cut the shit with the name calling. I'm NOT a 60-something nebbish foamer who's part of the Asperger Army. Don't be an Internet Toughguy lest we were to meet at an event and when I call you out on it, I GUARENTEE you will pull a Ralph Kramden "homina homina homina"... I HOPE that this is the last time I have to address this issue. NO need for the name-calling...I'm going in the same order as your posts: Nope. NEVER did! A man's race has NOTHING to do with condemning anybody. I read the list and that has NO bearing on policing in America. Aggressive policing FOR THE MOST PART is where the lion's share of the crime takes place, no matter WHERE it is or WHO is doing it. He WAS a criminal before he got shot. In fact, they're about to release his juvenile record. True story. So, are you telling me that there are 2 seperate ways both policing and justice operate, one dealing with how white cops deal with a white public/criminals and the other how white cops deal with a black public/criminals? That line of thinking is what will CONTINUOUSLY devide people, NOT bring them together. Just for shits and giggles, say I was a cop and there are 2 identical scenarios.. One involves me having to shoot a white guy coming at me with a knife. The other is a black guy coming at me with a knife. Based on your logic, MERELY because of race, should there be 2 different kinds of investigations done prima face? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 03:42:21 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 00:36:45 2014. How was my post racist? It wasn't. I just answered for you.He agrees with any post that is anti-police or anti- "establishment". |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 03:48:31 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 03:06:58 2014. That was sarcasm. My racism? How am I a racist? And don't be like Bingbong and duck my question, answer it since you threw it out there.... |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 04:29:13 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 03:42:21 2014. The fact that you consider Brown's murder justified should prove your racism well enough. If it wasn't 4 AM, I'd come up with more thorough examples.Oh wait, here's another. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 04:29:15 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 03:48:31 2014. My racism? How am I a racist?OK, so how are white people being oppressed? And by who? |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 04:29:18 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 03:40:39 2014. Listen, I'm being serious. Cut the shit with the name calling. I'm NOT a 60-something nebbish foamer blah blah blah I think I'm hot shit blah blah blah blahDude, seriously? You're making me giggle. Also, who's Ralph Kramden? Nope. NEVER did! A man's race has NOTHING to do with condemning anybody. I don't believe you, but I'm not going to bother googling at 4 AM. Oh wait, never mind, it took me five seconds of googling to find it. You must be wearing orthopedic shoes because you stand corrected! I read the list and that has NO bearing on policing in America. Aggressive policing FOR THE MOST PART is where the lion's share of the crime takes place, no matter WHERE it is or WHO is doing it. Try again. -A black man was shot to death. -By a white cop. -In a country with a mind-bogglingly high level of racism. -And a culture that allows police to get away with nearly anything. -Meaning that the murder of black men by white cops occurs very frequently. -Said black man was unarmed. -And had his hands up at the time he was shot. -The police department can't keep its story straight about what supposedly happened. -And reacted to peaceful protests with violent thuggery. -While making repeated death threats. Shall I post it in a bigger font? He WAS a criminal before he got shot. False. In fact, they're about to release his juvenile record. True story. "They" being the police who offered seven explanations for what happened in five minutes? The right wing media who ran stories about the "orbital fracture" Wilson never actually had? That you have to add "true story" to the end does not bode well. So, are you telling me that there are 2 seperate ways both policing and justice operate, one dealing with how white cops deal with a white public/criminals and the other how white cops deal with a black public/criminals? Yes. I am saying exactly that. Black people have to live their lives in fear of the police in ways that even white criminals simply don't. This fact is obvious to anybody who isn't blinded by white privilege and racism. That line of thinking is what will CONTINUOUSLY devide people, NOT bring them together. So tell me, are you just playing dumb or are you actually so retarded that you can't tell the difference between noticing racism and endorsing it? A black man (even a middle-class one) is more likely to be shot by the cops than a white felon. This is a fact. It is objectively true. It is not a "line of thinking" or a philosophy that can unite or divide anyone. It is a simple acknowledgement of what black people face every day. If you really cared about uniting people rather than dividing them, you would acknowledge this fact and work to change it. Just for shits and giggles, say I was a cop and there are 2 identical scenarios.. One involves me having to shoot a white guy coming at me with a knife. The other is a black guy coming at me with a knife. Based on your logic, MERELY because of race, should there be 2 different kinds of investigations done prima face? Logic just isn't your strong point, is it? Welcome to the Island of Conclusions. Based on the actual facts of policing in America, your hypothetical example would lead to 0 investigations because police shootings are never truly investigated no matter the circumstances. However "if you were a cop," then statistically, you'd be a hell of a lot less likely to shoot the white guy in the first place, and a hell of a lot more likely to shoot the black guy regardless— later telling the chief that he had a long object that kind of looked like a knife attached to his belt, so you shot him in self-defense while he was standing perfectly still, sixty feet away, with his hands in the air. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 04:45:03 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 04:29:13 2014. In WHAT world does saying that a police shooting SEEMS justifiable IF the evidence proves it in court mean I'm racist? Do you even know what the word means? It DOESN'T mean that if someone from a different race gets killed by police or anyone else for that matter and you wait until the facts come in before making a decision, that it's racism. Sorry, but I don't fall for that. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 04:45:44 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 04:29:15 2014. That means I'm racist?!?!?! Good God!!!! |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 04:49:18 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 04:45:03 2014. In WHAT world does saying that a police shooting SEEMS justifiable IF the evidence proves it in court mean I'm racist?You really do love your loaded questions, don't you? If you go back to the linked post, you would see that what you actually said is that the available evidence (which is fairly conclusive that Wilson murdered Brown in cold blood) would tend to suggest Wilson was justified. I'll be back once you've figured that out (and understood its implications). |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 04:50:00 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 04:45:44 2014. Not an answer.OK, so how are white people being oppressed? And by who? You made the claim, now back it up. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 05:15:18 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 04:29:18 2014. Again, in order:I guess you're not from here if you don't know who Ralph Kramden is. AND you won't be giggling, that's for sure. You show me a comment where I say the guy and his family are savages, which they are. SHOW ME where I'm condemning him because of his race!!If you're gonna "correct" me, at least show me something that validates your point, not your assumptions. Newsflash: People of ALL races will continue to get shot at by the police IF they are believed to be engaged in certain criminal acts in which the police deem it necessary to do so. You make it seem like the police "aren't allowed" to enforce the law due to past history. Let's hear YOUR way to end racism and bring people together. And speaking of retards, does your caretaker know you're up this late? And, as for working to change things, I agree, BUT, EVERYONE has to do it. Aren't you the one with issues with police about something that happened with taking pictures? If so, do you let your prejudices about them dictate your feelings, no matter how irrational? Of COURSE police shootings are investigated! I guess YOU'VE spent hours with the DA's investigators pouring over evidence and gathering up new evidence in order to ensure that the shooting was clean OR that if the shooting seemed fugazy, that justice could be served.... Your last paragraph is juvenile at MOST, with shooting 60 feet away and all that nonsense.... In conclusion, you seem to feel that if you're white, you should feel "white guilt" just as the Libs and the European's do. Well, guess what, I don't feel that way as I just go about my life concerned with Real World problems such as paying my mortgage and bills, having enough food and drink, and providing for my family. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 05:47:07 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 04:49:18 2014. EVEN if I was 100% behind the cop without knowing any of the facts that STILL doesn't make me a racist! Go preach your self-hating white guilt to someone else... |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 05:49:30 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 04:50:00 2014. Let's see.... By other whites, by blacks, by hispanics, by muslims (I know they're not a "race" but the radicals hate white people anyway and are very vocal about it, especially in Britain), by Asians, by indians....... |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 06:21:07 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 05:49:30 2014. Let's see.... By other whites,Not racism. by blacks Citation needed. by hispanics Citation needed. by muslims (I know they're not a "race" but the radicals hate white people anyway and are very vocal about it, especially in Britain) Citation needed. by Asians Citation needed. by indians....... Citation needed. by klingons, by morlocks, by centaurs, by whitewalkers, by scarrans, by Fellnish, by reavers OK, I made that up, but it's not much more ridiculous than anything you wrote. You need to answer the "how" part. Just rattling off a list of every race you can think of and claiming they oppress white people by existing makes you a racist and an idiot. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 06:21:09 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 05:47:07 2014. If you believe that a white cop is justified in shooting a black man simply because he's black, then yes, you are a racist.That you use the term "white guilt" in all seriousness further confirms it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 06:21:19 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 05:15:18 2014. I guess you're not from here if you don't know who Ralph Kramden is.That, or I'm just not old enough to collect Social Security. AND you won't be giggling, that's for sure. I take it Ralph Kramden isn't very funny then? You show me a comment where I say the guy and his family are savages, which they are. Thank you for admitting I'm right. SHOW ME where I'm condemning him because of his race!!If you're gonna "correct" me, at least show me something that validates your point, not your assumptions. Hoooeeee, you just don't understand simple logic, do you? Here, when discussing a white cop murdering a black man, you insisted against making conclusions based on the available facts. Here, I pointed out the pertinent facts that indicate murder, and hypothesised that if the races were reversed, you would immediately leap to judgement rather than insist that there's some justification that just hasn't been released yet. Here, when discussing a case where the races were, in fact, reversed, you leapt to judgement, thus confirming my hypothesis. When a white man kills a black man, you contort into pretzels trying to justify it, but if the killer is black, you immediately label him subhuman. Ergo, when you hear news of a killing, you choose either to denounce or minimise based on the race of the accused killer. Q.E.D. Newsflash: People of ALL races will continue to get shot at by the police IF they are believed to be engaged in certain criminal acts in which the police deem it necessary to do so. Newsflash: Michael Brown was NOT engaging in any criminal act of any sort. Secondary newsflash: Black people are more likely to get shot by the police no matter what. You make it seem like the police "aren't allowed" to enforce the law due to past history. No, that's just you and your complete inability to understand even the simplest of facts or deductions. Let's hear YOUR way to end racism and bring people together. Oh that's rich. "How do you propose we end a massive systemic problem which has been ingrained in culture over centuries of history and is probably based on an innate biological thinking glitch? Oh, you don't have a simple answer? Then I guess the problem doesn't exist at all!" That's like asking you to offer a cure for cancer, and claiming your failure to provide one proves that cancer doesn't exist. Once again, you're either a retard or choosing to act like one. Aren't you the one with issues with police about something that happened with taking pictures? If so, do you let your prejudices about them dictate your feelings, no matter how irrational? Ad hominem. Accusing me of bias doesn't change the actual facts of my argument. If you want more details— yes, like approximately every photographer, I had a few conversations with the police. Thanks to my relative lack of pigmentation, I survived all of them unscathed. About five years ago, I adopted a new strategy regarding police encounters that has worked perfectly thus far. However, I am under no illusion that this strategy would result in repeated arrests and/or being shot to death if I weren't white. All in all, my encounters have left me with a fairly neutral view of the police— many of them openly admitted they were obliged to talk to me because they got a call from some paranoid loon. Worst case scenario, I got a ticket for "violating" 1050.9(c) by taking photos without a permit in spite of that law specifically disavowing any need for one. The ticket was dismissed, and I sued the city and won a settlement sufficient to cover the cost of the laptop I bought to display my exonerating video at the TAB and the value of the time I spent fighting it. In fact, I probably came out ahead. This, on the other hand, would make any human on the planet think the Ferguson PD needs to be disbanded unless he's an inbred backwater child with a lung growing out of his back and racism instead of legs. Of COURSE police shootings are investigated! I said truly investigated, not rubber-stamped as justified. You are free to offer up examples of cops actually convicted of killing people after shootings were ruled unjustified. You may not cite the murder of Oscar Grant, as that involved a cop shooting a handcuffed and unmoving man in the back of the head execution-style, in front of dozens of eyewitnesses, some of whom were recording the entire thing on video and he confessed to the crime and was still only convicted of "involuntary manslaughter" and served only a year in jail. I guess YOU'VE spent hours with the DA's investigators pouring over evidence and gathering up new evidence in order to ensure that the shooting was clean OR that if the shooting seemed fugazy, that justice could be served.... You clearly haven't. Most departments "review" shootings in-house— ie, one cop looks at the case and pronounces it justified. Your last paragraph is juvenile at MOST, with shooting 60 feet away and all that nonsense.... My last paragraph was a simple explanation of the facts on the ground all across America, which you're either too stupid to understand or pretending to be too stupid to understand because you don't want to admit your racism. In conclusion, you seem to feel that if you're white, you should feel "white guilt" just as the Libs and the European's do. This proves you're either a frothing white supremacist or you've never opened a history book in your life. Well, guess what, I don't feel that way as I just go about my life concerned with Real World problems such as paying my mortgage and bills, having enough food and drink, and providing for my family. If any white person makes a statement like this in this context, the appropriate response is to gather a group of people to go to his house and bash his face in with a variety of blunt instruments. Does that piss you off? Are you planning to write a lengthy and extremely shrill screed, or maybe just do your Internet Tough Guy schtick again? Imagine that such a group really existed. You don't know where they are, but you know they could strike you or any member of your family at any time. Except they're not limited to blunt instruments and face bashings— they might kill you. And not because of what you said, but because of who you are. Every day, you wake up wondering, is this the day they kill me? The day they kill my children? As soon as they're old enough to understand, you give your children The Talk, telling them about the group and what they can do to reduce (but not eliminate) their chance of being beaten or killed. And if they do get you, you can't call the police— because the police are almost certainly members of the group themselves. Imagine living your whole life under this threat. That's what it's like being black in America. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 06:33:45 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 06:21:09 2014. And I thought OTHERS here were delusional!! WHERE did I ever say that?!?! "Simply because he's black"? You're grasping at straws at this stage of the game....I used the term because you're going out on limbs here, "reading" my mind and such, which is 100% malarkay in your assumptions. |
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