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Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty

Posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 28 06:21:19 2014, in response to Re: How Officer Wilson could avoid being found guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 05:15:18 2014.

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I guess you're not from here if you don't know who Ralph Kramden is.

That, or I'm just not old enough to collect Social Security.

AND you won't be giggling, that's for sure.

I take it Ralph Kramden isn't very funny then?

You show me a comment where I say the guy and his family are savages, which they are.

Thank you for admitting I'm right.

SHOW ME where I'm condemning him because of his race!!If you're gonna "correct" me, at least show me something that validates your point, not your assumptions.

Hoooeeee, you just don't understand simple logic, do you?

Here, when discussing a white cop murdering a black man, you insisted against making conclusions based on the available facts.

Here, I pointed out the pertinent facts that indicate murder, and hypothesised that if the races were reversed, you would immediately leap to judgement rather than insist that there's some justification that just hasn't been released yet.

Here, when discussing a case where the races were, in fact, reversed, you leapt to judgement, thus confirming my hypothesis.

When a white man kills a black man, you contort into pretzels trying to justify it, but if the killer is black, you immediately label him subhuman.

Ergo, when you hear news of a killing, you choose either to denounce or minimise based on the race of the accused killer. Q.E.D.

Newsflash: People of ALL races will continue to get shot at by the police IF they are believed to be engaged in certain criminal acts in which the police deem it necessary to do so.

Newsflash: Michael Brown was NOT engaging in any criminal act of any sort.

Secondary newsflash: Black people are more likely to get shot by the police no matter what.

You make it seem like the police "aren't allowed" to enforce the law due to past history.

No, that's just you and your complete inability to understand even the simplest of facts or deductions.

Let's hear YOUR way to end racism and bring people together.

Oh that's rich. "How do you propose we end a massive systemic problem which has been ingrained in culture over centuries of history and is probably based on an innate biological thinking glitch? Oh, you don't have a simple answer? Then I guess the problem doesn't exist at all!"

That's like asking you to offer a cure for cancer, and claiming your failure to provide one proves that cancer doesn't exist.

Once again, you're either a retard or choosing to act like one.

Aren't you the one with issues with police about something that happened with taking pictures? If so, do you let your prejudices about them dictate your feelings, no matter how irrational?

Ad hominem. Accusing me of bias doesn't change the actual facts of my argument.

If you want more details— yes, like approximately every photographer, I had a few conversations with the police. Thanks to my relative lack of pigmentation, I survived all of them unscathed. About five years ago, I adopted a new strategy regarding police encounters that has worked perfectly thus far. However, I am under no illusion that this strategy would result in repeated arrests and/or being shot to death if I weren't white.

All in all, my encounters have left me with a fairly neutral view of the police— many of them openly admitted they were obliged to talk to me because they got a call from some paranoid loon. Worst case scenario, I got a ticket for "violating" 1050.9(c) by taking photos without a permit in spite of that law specifically disavowing any need for one. The ticket was dismissed, and I sued the city and won a settlement sufficient to cover the cost of the laptop I bought to display my exonerating video at the TAB and the value of the time I spent fighting it. In fact, I probably came out ahead.

This, on the other hand, would make any human on the planet think the Ferguson PD needs to be disbanded unless he's an inbred backwater child with a lung growing out of his back and racism instead of legs.

Of COURSE police shootings are investigated!

I said truly investigated, not rubber-stamped as justified.

You are free to offer up examples of cops actually convicted of killing people after shootings were ruled unjustified. You may not cite the murder of Oscar Grant, as that involved a cop shooting a handcuffed and unmoving man in the back of the head execution-style, in front of dozens of eyewitnesses, some of whom were recording the entire thing on video and he confessed to the crime and was still only convicted of "involuntary manslaughter" and served only a year in jail.

I guess YOU'VE spent hours with the DA's investigators pouring over evidence and gathering up new evidence in order to ensure that the shooting was clean OR that if the shooting seemed fugazy, that justice could be served....

You clearly haven't. Most departments "review" shootings in-house— ie, one cop looks at the case and pronounces it justified.

Your last paragraph is juvenile at MOST, with shooting 60 feet away and all that nonsense....

My last paragraph was a simple explanation of the facts on the ground all across America, which you're either too stupid to understand or pretending to be too stupid to understand because you don't want to admit your racism.

In conclusion, you seem to feel that if you're white, you should feel "white guilt" just as the Libs and the European's do.

This proves you're either a frothing white supremacist or you've never opened a history book in your life.

Well, guess what, I don't feel that way as I just go about my life concerned with Real World problems such as paying my mortgage and bills, having enough food and drink, and providing for my family.

If any white person makes a statement like this in this context, the appropriate response is to gather a group of people to go to his house and bash his face in with a variety of blunt instruments.

Does that piss you off? Are you planning to write a lengthy and extremely shrill screed, or maybe just do your Internet Tough Guy schtick again?

Imagine that such a group really existed. You don't know where they are, but you know they could strike you or any member of your family at any time. Except they're not limited to blunt instruments and face bashings— they might kill you. And not because of what you said, but because of who you are. Every day, you wake up wondering, is this the day they kill me? The day they kill my children? As soon as they're old enough to understand, you give your children The Talk, telling them about the group and what they can do to reduce (but not eliminate) their chance of being beaten or killed. And if they do get you, you can't call the police— because the police are almost certainly members of the group themselves.

Imagine living your whole life under this threat. That's what it's like being black in America.

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