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Re: Democrats flip out, go full-retard, and try instituting Third Reich policies in New Jersey

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Aug 14 09:00:44 2017, in response to Re: Democrats flip out, go full-retard, and try instituting Third Reich policies in New Jersey, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 14 01:58:01 2017.

Because one does not need to be ultra-Orthodox to "destroy" a neighborhood, in the eyes of some.

Orthodox Judaism has a lot of rules and restrictions. The food not only must be kosher (like Hebrew National), it must be "glatt" kosher, which means certified kosher by a recognized Orthodox rabbi. The Sabbath (or Shabbat or Shabbos depending on where you're from) has a lot of restrictions regarding doing "work", the most famous (or infamous) of which is the prohibition of carrying anything in public. An "eruv" around a neighborhood (basically a barrier that can consist of a single thin wire) makes the neighborhood a "private" place so one can carry on the Sabbath. (Not all Orthodox groups agree with this.) There also must be a ritual bath house for women after their cycles and for new flatwear and cutlery. In addition, Orthodox children need to be educated in Tanach and the Talmud as well as in other subjects considered important by Orthodox Judaism. These subjects are very complicated and extensive and therefore the modern trend is to have Orthodox children attend Orthodox day schools, called yeshivas, so that they can have Orthodox instruction in the morning and early afternoon hours and secular instruction during other times. Finally, Orthodox prayer services usually require a quorum of at least 10 men over the age of 13 (bar mitzvah) or else many of the services can't be performed.

Now, for all of these reasons Orthodox Jews can't live in isolated places - they need to live among other Orthodox Jews. And that is where the fear begins. The secular or Gentile residents of a neighborhood see that Orthodox families are moving in and they right away know that these people are going to open at least one synagogue, a ritual bath, at least one glatt kosher supermarket and probably one or two glatt kosher restaurants or pizza shops. They are afraid that once these places are up and running, more Orthodox Jews will move in and start to take over the existing businesses and turn them into Orthodox businesses, until the snowball turns into an avalanche and the entire neighborhood caters mostly to the Orthodox. Since the Orthodox don't send their children to the local public schools, the public school system shrinks as Gentiles and secular Jews move out and Orthodox Jews move in. Public schools are combined and buildings are closed, whereas synagogues and yeshivas open. And so on.

The 5 Towns is usually cited by the secular Jews and the Gentiles as a perfect example of what happens when Orthodox Jews are permitted to transform a neighborhood. People are deathly afraid that if Orthodox Jews are allowed to get a foothold in their neighborhoods, that they will eventually transform the whole area and the secular and Gentiles will have nothing - no non-kosher restaurants, no schools for their children, no places to eat out, et al. So they try to keep the Orthodox out before they have a chance to get it, and the easiest way to do it is to prevent them from building the eruv. Without an eruv, nobody can carry things on the Sabbath and mothers can't push their strollers to synagogue or to their friends and families' homes. The secular and Gentiles believe (correctly) that this is a major inconvenience to the Orthodox and that will keep them from moving in.

The problem is that the Constitution prevents any municipality from passing laws that restrict freedom of religion. Thus, the local municipalities have to be VERY careful about passing laws prohibiting putting up wires on poles, et al because if the municipality can't prove that there is a need for the law other than to prohibit the building of an eruv, the law will be struck down. That's what happened in Westhampton - they passed a law prohibiting anything from being tacked onto the light poles and similar structures in Westhampton. This obviously meant that the eruv wire couldn't be put up there but the Orthodox group that wanted the eruv demonstrated to the Court that the Village was allowing signs for businesses, et al to be placed on the poles. It was in Court for years and the Orthodox eventually won.

Now, the presence of Orthodox Jews does not necessarily mean that a village will be "destroyed". There are plenty of Orthodox neighborhoods on Long Island that remain small and isolated - like Plainview, West Hempstead, North Bellmore and Merrick. But the fear of the 5 Towns makes people crazy.

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