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Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 01:20:47 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by f179dj on Wed Feb 10 00:16:21 2010. Just so long as they don't paint them "black and tan."Funny you say that. This scheme from the 1960s was dubbed "black and tan". Only lasted until the mid-70s on the locomotives; there were certain kinds of passenger car that didn't get repainted until the 1990s though. (That locomotive is pure EMD; the first-generation JL8, with eight-cylinder 567CR prime mover, built in LaGrange IL.)  This is the paint scheme that preceded it; two-tone green. (This is one of the few diesels built in Ireland, or assembled; the body was built in Inchicore Works in 1950, but the prime mover is Sulzer and the traction motors are Metropolitan Vickers.)  |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 10 01:54:44 2010, in response to Re: What about ''midget''?, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 10 01:05:08 2010. "subchatter" is out as well ... the proper term now is "date-deficient railfans" ... :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 02:03:27 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Feb 9 13:53:28 2010. You're getting additive and subtractive mixed up. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Feb 10 02:19:18 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 9 19:36:04 2010. Sadly so... |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Feb 10 02:19:43 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by randyo on Tue Feb 9 18:13:32 2010. lmfao! I see what you did there... |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Feb 10 03:55:39 2010, in response to Re: What about ''midget''?, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 10 01:05:08 2010. I hate it when they add syllables or extra letters to the term, making me work harder to say or write it. |
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Posted by Fytton on Wed Feb 10 06:17:33 2010, in response to Re: What about ''midget''?, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 10 01:05:08 2010. 'LITTLE PEOPLE'In the UK the PC term is 'persons of restricted growth', I believe. |
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Posted by Fytton on Wed Feb 10 06:27:15 2010, in response to Asians find the term "yellow line" offensive, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 9 11:39:46 2010. In the UK, the term 'Asian' invariably connotes someone whose ancestors came from the South Asian subcontinent (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka). A former student of mine had a story about this. The student was from, China, and had a part-time job as an assistant in a clothes store. A British Asian (i.e. Indian or whatever) customer was very rude to her. Her boss - a white British man - saw this happen and afterwards said 'Bloody Asians!' My student then pointed out to him tha she was Asian too...The London Underground doesn't call its lines by colours, but the yellow one on the map is the Circle Line. Maybe British Asians should object to the Bakerloo Line (brown on the map) and British people of Afro-Caribbean descent should object to the Northern Line (black on the map) ! |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 07:51:47 2010, in response to What about "midget"?, posted by B1bus on Wed Feb 10 00:54:04 2010. Perhaps MARTA should play this over the PA system on the Yellow Line... |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 07:53:12 2010, in response to Re: Orientals find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 9 23:48:03 2010. At least use a word that's genuinely offensive rather than one that's just a descriptive Latin word. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Feb 10 08:36:47 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by B1bus on Wed Feb 10 00:49:40 2010. Yup that too |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Feb 10 10:22:07 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 9 13:19:23 2010. Many of the gays in West Hollywood very much want the line connecting Hollywood to the Purple line (through WeHo) to be called the Pink line and so far that's what most transit advocates are calling it.And (presumably by coincidence) CTA's Pink Line debuted the same day as the annual Pride Parade. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Wed Feb 10 10:38:52 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 9 23:47:19 2010. Someone asked a question, in this message stream, about the origin of the color route system now used by the NYC Subway system, and I answered that question.Mike |
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Posted by mr_brian on Wed Feb 10 11:49:16 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 07:53:12 2010. Did you really have to go that far? Come on. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Wed Feb 10 12:04:49 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by randyo on Tue Feb 9 18:13:32 2010. Or that the N line's color is yellow. Nobody here complains about that. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 10 12:06:33 2010, in response to Re: Orientals find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 00:38:45 2010. I'd call you Accidental. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Wed Feb 10 12:15:44 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Feb 9 18:22:06 2010. Doesn't Washington's Yellow Line stop at a station called "Gallery Place-Chinatown"? I don't hear Washington's Asian community complaining about that? WMATA hasn't had to change the name of its Yellow Line. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Wed Feb 10 12:21:25 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Feb 9 20:40:26 2010. Exactly. We have the yellow N, Q, R and W trains stopping at Canal Street in the heart of Chinatown and the N also stopping in a predominantly Asian section of Sunset Park at 8th Avenue and Fort Hamilton Parkway. Yet nobody here cries racism about it. I think somebody in Atlanta with nothing better to do with his pathetic life decided to instigate a fight over this. It's ridiculous. It's just a color. It's meant to make the system easier to navigate. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 12:26:38 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Michael549 on Wed Feb 10 10:38:52 2010. Someone asked a question, in this message stream, about the origin of the color route system now used by the NYC Subway systemNo they didn't. Not a thing was uttered inquiring about its origin. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 12:28:25 2010, in response to Re: Orientals find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 10 12:06:33 2010. I'd call you "on porpoise" but then cetaceans would get offended. (Or maybe Aquaman or Prince Namor might take offense.) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 12:29:20 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 07:53:12 2010. You're looking to be a target today, eh? |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Wed Feb 10 12:31:59 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Michael549 on Tue Feb 9 20:55:50 2010. That can't be the reason. If they chose the 1979 colors on the basis of what color the dominant express line was, the Lexington Avenue line would be shown in purple today. Nassau Street would be shown in black (the J/QJ's old color). Because purple would be the Lex's color, the 7 would also have to be a different color. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Wed Feb 10 12:37:20 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 12:26:38 2010. Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensivePosted by B49 Limited on Tue Feb 9 18:47:35 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by randyo on Tue Feb 9 18:13:32 2010. Or how about N Q R W trains running at Canal Street Station... ---- Mike |
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Re: What about ''midget''? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Feb 10 12:40:16 2010, in response to Re: What about ''midget''?, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 10 01:05:08 2010. Published February 08 2010Board discusses Midget mascot The “appropriateness” of the Dickinson High School Midget mascot was a topic of discussion Monday during a Dickinson Public Schools board meeting, but no action was taken. By: Beth Wischmeyer, The Dickinson Press The “appropriateness” of the Dickinson High School Midget mascot was a topic of discussion Monday during a Dickinson Public Schools board meeting, but no action was taken. Dean Rummel, school board president, had the item placed on Monday’s agenda so that, according to the agenda, “the board may initiate any discussion about the perception of the DHS mascot.” Rummel said 14 years ago, the issue was heated and felt the board should again have a discussion on the appropriateness of the mascot. Rummel presented materials to board members, which included a letter from a former DHS student supporting the change. “The question I place in front of you is, I think it was not done very well last time, 14 years ago,” Rummel said. “I think if we’re going to do anything at all — and I’m not saying we’re to do anything at all, I’d like to hear from all of you — but my suggestion would be to have a public forum and to get input from students, staff, alumni, constituents of the schools district, to find out if, after 14 years, if there’s any reason to change the mascot or the name.” The issue of changing the mascot was brought to a vote in June, 1997, and was voted down by residents and students, according to a June 4, 1997, article in The Dickinson Press. The school board voted to drop the school nickname and mascot in the summer of 1996. Before a replacement mascot could be found, a public outcry led to the recall of three board members in November of that year. Board member Morton Krieg, an original proponent of the mascot, said the image was created in the ’40s and ’50s by a radio announcer calling a basketball game, who dubbed the DHS basketball team “our midgets,” as they were small compared to their opponent. In the ’70s, in a DHS contest put on by the student council, a mascot was chosen, known as the “Mighty Midget,” he added, and noted it is the official name of the mascot. Hagen Junior High also utilizes the mascot. “The problem I’m having with this conversation right now is the burden of putting this back out for discussion should not come from the board,” Krieg said. “This should be something that should be coming from either the student body of Dickinson High School, or a public group that’s coming forward. You don’t want to tackle this. This is not a decision five board members should even have to make. You don’t want to push this.” Krieg said since the 1996 recall vote, he has had a “pulse on how the name and mascot is perceived in our state and by those people out of our state.” “I feel at this time there is no great public outcry, no great student outcry, and certainly no administrative recommendations, to act on the Midget name or mascot,” Krieg said. “To me, it’s a non-issue right now. I just feel this board does not have to be the moral compass of the community. You’re not elected to do that.” Rummel asked for an opinion from Gary Thune, legal counsel for the North Dakota School Boards Association, on the legal status of the schools’ use of the mascot. In a letter provided by Rummel, Thune states, generally, school officials have the authority to determine and change a school mascot or other symbols, and the general rule governing the selection of a mascot is that it should be free of discrimination on the basis of race, color or national origin. Thune went on to state in his letter that “legal challenges to mascots have usually been unsuccessful,” and “while some may argue that use of the Midget mascot is offensive and is not good policy, its use does not appear to rise to the level of a constitutional violation.” Board member Kris Fehr said the “elephant” in the room needs to be discussed. “It’s OK to talk about it, I don’t know that anyone wants to make any decisions,” Fehr said. “But to just pretend that this is not existing is probably not right to do either. “There are people who don’t like it, there are people who like it and there’s people that this is not anything that enters their mind.” No action was taken on the item, but board members discussed somehow surveying the community, students and staff to get a feel for current views on the subject at a later date. |
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Re: "Asians" find the term "Yellow Line" offensive |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 12:41:14 2010, in response to What about "midget"?, posted by B1bus on Wed Feb 10 00:54:04 2010. Yes, oriental is offensiveThen "occidental" is too. And if I get confused as to my whereabouts, I can't say I'm "disoriented". Ridiculous; the word "oriens" in Latin means the part of the sky where the sun rises, just as "occidens" refers to the part of the sky where the sun sets. What about "midget"? There's a midget race? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 12:43:00 2010, in response to Re: What about ''midget''?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 10 01:54:44 2010. You're getting the place mixed up with Trainorders. |
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Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 12:45:01 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Michael549 on Wed Feb 10 12:37:20 2010. I know how to read; WADR, it appears that you don't. Nobody asked the origin of those colors. That question was asked in the context of this thread (i.e. the color thereof offending persons of Asian origin). |
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Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Feb 10 13:28:44 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 07:53:12 2010. Ok, now that's going too far. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Feb 10 13:44:58 2010, in response to Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Feb 10 13:28:44 2010. I agree this was not only way too far but this is a very bigoted thing to say. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 13:55:45 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by mr_brian on Wed Feb 10 11:49:16 2010. Yes. It demonstrates the risibility of people objecting to words in themselves. It's not the words that matter. There's no difference between saying, "Lynch the niggers!" and, "Lynch the African-Americans": both express the same unacceptable concept. Objecting to words just hides the problem rather than addressing it -- people's opinion's don't change just because you declare a word taboo, and you just end up declaring word after word to be taboo. All you achieve by doing so is weakening the English language's fitness to express totally innocent concepts, such as "Yellow Line". |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 13:59:24 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Wed Feb 10 12:15:44 2010. Yes. It's a load of unrepresentative, self-appointed "community leaders" making nuisances of themselves for the hell of it. They deserve to be told where to go in no uncertain terms. |
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Posted by bklyntekgeek on Wed Feb 10 14:01:09 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 13:55:45 2010. Jeesh. Hey I'm chinese too. But honestly these so called asians should grow a pair of nuts and come to NYC. If we had something called a yellow line, not many people would give a crap. In fact. I went to China back in 07 to visit family. They call bus routes by numbers and train routes by their destination. Weird names too. I'm sure they wouldn't get offended by the "color" line. HEll Chicago LOL. Perfect example. There's Asians in Chicago. Did they get offended by their colored lines? NO lol.Just find the whole uproar in Atlanta pretty pathetic. Sounds like a bunch of frat boys got nothing better to do than to cause mayhem over something so minor ! lol. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Feb 10 14:16:00 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by arnine on Wed Feb 10 13:44:58 2010. Not in the context with which he presented it, as a demonstration of language. He wasn't mean-spiritedly slurring our Chinese buds.your pal, Fred |
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Does Kew Gardens Teleport need to wear a whiite hooded robe? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 10 14:19:16 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 07:53:12 2010. "At least use a word that's genuinely offensive rather than one that's just a descriptive Latin word.."Why do you needto go there?....totally unnecessary....and rather childish..... |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 14:22:25 2010, in response to Does Kew Gardens Teleport need to wear a whiite hooded robe?, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 10 14:19:16 2010. No, I've not even got a green one. Read my follow-up to mr_brian. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Feb 10 14:24:36 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Fred G on Wed Feb 10 14:16:00 2010. I understand, but I don't think it should be used at all [like the 'n' word] in any context. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 10 14:25:08 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by bklyntekgeek on Wed Feb 10 14:01:09 2010. "Just find the whole uproar in Atlanta pretty pathetic. Sounds like a bunch of frat boys got nothing better to do than to cause mayhem over something so minor ! lol. "I disagree....you have to consider the fact that Atlanta is located in the South where at one time segregation was the norm against minorities....so there really has to be some sensitivity in this case. |
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Re: Does Kew Gardens Teleport need to wear a whiite hooded robe? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 10 14:27:24 2010, in response to Re: Does Kew Gardens Teleport need to wear a whiite hooded robe?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 14:22:25 2010. Mister Who? lol lets not go there....with that label...thank God he hasn't been around.... |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Feb 10 14:29:35 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Fred G on Wed Feb 10 14:16:00 2010. Sorry it was still too far IMHO and is still a bigoted thing to say |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 14:34:32 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 10 14:25:08 2010. Oh yeah, because people were horrendously racist to some completely different minority in the past, we have to keep reminding their children and grandchildren even to the tenth generation that they're the progeny of awful sinful people who were born to be racists.The only way of getting over racism is how it was done with the Irish: by viewing it all as a big joke, and then collectively realizing that the stereotypes perpetuated by the jokes weren't really true. |
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Posted by bklyntekgeek on Wed Feb 10 14:47:22 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 14:34:32 2010. Indeed. Unfortunately there are those who don't see it as jokes but hey what can we do right? lol. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed Feb 10 14:48:54 2010, in response to Does Kew Gardens Teleport need to wear a whiite hooded robe?, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 10 14:19:16 2010. No. |
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Posted by mr_brian on Wed Feb 10 14:56:21 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 13:55:45 2010. So you're just going to justify it? Not even apologize? You didn't have to use an ethnic slur that I've been called by a lot when I was in school just to make a point.For the record: I have no issue with "Yellow Line." In fact, some Asians I know even have referred to the N/R/W as the "yellow line." Imagine that. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Feb 10 15:01:02 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by mr_brian on Wed Feb 10 14:56:21 2010. Truth. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 10 15:02:51 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 14:34:32 2010. "we have to keep reminding their children and grandchildren even to the tenth generation that they're the progeny of awful sinful people who were born to be racists. "I guess you don't also believe the Holocaust ever happened or shouldn't be remembered....eh? |
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Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Feb 10 15:03:43 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 14:34:32 2010. The part about the uproar over 'yellow line' IS laughable.But I don't see any point in using the 'c' word [along the same line as I would never use the 'n' word]. I understand it's about the context, but there's no point in using the word at all. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 15:10:36 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 10 15:02:51 2010. "we have to keep reminding their children and grandchildren even to the tenth generation that they're the progeny of awful sinful people who were born to be racists. "I guess you don't also believe the Holocaust ever happened or shouldn't be remembered....eh? Where did I ever say that I did not believe that negro slavery ever happened or shouldn't be remembered? It just shouldn't be used as a weapon against people who weren't even born in 1865, especially not by people who aren't even African-Americans. But we are getting fairly close to invoking Godwin's Law here. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 15:16:31 2010, in response to Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Feb 10 15:03:43 2010. There's no point in your post either. We don't live in a teleological world. It was a language game pointed at dumb, humorless attitudes to race. |
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Re: What about ''midget''? |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Feb 10 15:29:58 2010, in response to Re: What about ''midget''?, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 10 01:05:08 2010. how about 'dwarf'? At least it's one word. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Feb 10 15:32:08 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by B1bus on Wed Feb 10 00:49:40 2010. yellow lights.. |
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