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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 18:25:58 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 17:53:10 2010.

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You should go to DC and become a spin doctor.

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Feb 12 18:28:06 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 18:09:44 2010.

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It shows that they actually listen to their community. It's good P/R, and it was a relatively easy and reasonable change.

The people who were offended are pleased, people who didn't care just shrug, and MARTA looks good.

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Re: Midgets find ''short line'' offensive

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 18:40:32 2010, in response to Re: Midgets find ''short line'' offensive, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 18:10:42 2010.

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What about the Monopoly game?

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 18:42:00 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Feb 12 18:08:03 2010.

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Since you don't any of them, you are not qualified to determine if they are jerks.

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Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 18:42:46 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 18:06:19 2010.

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More Catholic than the Pope (metaphorically speaking, of course).

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Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 18:44:34 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Feb 11 07:08:24 2010.

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The offense is taken because of how the word is used, not necessarily because of the word itself.

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Feb 12 18:52:34 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 18:42:00 2010.

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Oh please. It's not exactly as if it's an isolated phenomenon.

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Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Feb 12 18:55:09 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 18:44:34 2010.

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And anyway, offense can only be given, not taken. Anything else just leads to absurdity.

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Re: Orientals find the term ''yellow line'' offensive

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 12 19:30:15 2010, in response to Re: Orientals find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Feb 11 20:05:36 2010.

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So? The Pacific Ocean is narrowest in the part where nobody lives along it. In the part where people actually do live along it (Japan, California, etc.), it's much wider.

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Re: Smelly people find ''B&O Railroad'' offensive

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 12 19:30:52 2010, in response to Re: Midgets find ''short line'' offensive, posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 18:40:32 2010.

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LOL!

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Illiterate people find "Reading Railroad" offensive.

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Feb 12 20:09:46 2010, in response to Re: Smelly people find ''B&O Railroad'' offensive, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 12 19:30:52 2010.

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:-)

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West Indian people find Nassau St and Jamaica lines offensive.

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Feb 12 20:14:46 2010, in response to Asians find the term "yellow line" offensive, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 9 11:39:46 2010.

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:-)

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 20:21:48 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Feb 12 18:28:06 2010.

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It shows that they actually listen to their community

Does it? Looks more like they can be bullied by a vocal minority instead.

The people who were offended are pleased, people who didn't care just shrug, and MARTA looks good

They actually don't look good.

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Re: Sinn Féin finds the Orange Line offensive

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 20:23:53 2010, in response to West Indian people find Nassau St and Jamaica lines offensive., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Feb 12 20:14:46 2010.

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Even with almost a half-century of orange trains running in the Republic.

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by B1bus on Fri Feb 12 20:42:47 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 20:21:48 2010.

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I think RED looks like to much like blood.
Let's get rid of red lines. I am offended by blood.

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by Easy on Fri Feb 12 20:43:39 2010, in response to MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Feb 12 02:17:07 2010.

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Good! Now they need to change their name to MAHWARTA because it's not just blacks that ride MARTA!

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 20:46:34 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 20:21:48 2010.

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This is NOT a big deal. It was an easy change that did no one any harm and built some community good will.

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Re: UDF finds the Green Line offensive

Posted by JohnL on Fri Feb 12 21:13:11 2010, in response to Re: Sinn Féin finds the Orange Line offensive, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 20:23:53 2010.

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Touché!

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Re: DUP finds the Green Line offensive

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 21:29:03 2010, in response to Re: UDF finds the Green Line offensive, posted by JohnL on Fri Feb 12 21:13:11 2010.

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At least use the "political wing" (note I didn't say IRA). Not sure how the UUP or SDLP feel, though.

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Re: DUP finds the Green Line offensive

Posted by Union Turnpike on Fri Feb 12 21:37:00 2010, in response to Re: DUP finds the Green Line offensive, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 21:29:03 2010.

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Say, Olog-hai, do you still think the CTA should rename the Pink Line?

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Short People Find ''Short Line'' offensive.

Posted by Union Turnpike on Fri Feb 12 21:44:40 2010, in response to Illiterate people find "Reading Railroad" offensive., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Feb 12 20:09:46 2010.

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They likely will protest against people buying Monopoly sets until the "Short Line" space and title deed are given new names.

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Bulls find Red line offensive.

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Feb 12 21:54:41 2010, in response to Short People Find ''Short Line'' offensive., posted by Union Turnpike on Fri Feb 12 21:44:40 2010.

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:-)

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Re: Bulls find Red line offensive.

Posted by Fulton Frank on Fri Feb 12 21:56:01 2010, in response to Bulls find Red line offensive., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Feb 12 21:54:41 2010.

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How do American Indians feel about the Red Line?


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Re: What about ''midget''?

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Feb 12 22:00:38 2010, in response to What about "midget"?, posted by B1bus on Wed Feb 10 00:54:04 2010.

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LOL @ this subthread, bookmarked!

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Re: DUP finds the Green Line offensive

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 22:02:49 2010, in response to Re: DUP finds the Green Line offensive, posted by Union Turnpike on Fri Feb 12 21:37:00 2010.

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Say, yes.

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 22:04:35 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 20:46:34 2010.

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This is NOT a big deal

The name "Yellow Line" is what's not a big deal.

It was an easy change that did no one any harm and built some community good will

Stop using Marxist catchphrases.

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 22:07:39 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 22:04:35 2010.

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Yellow Line is not a big deal to YOU. You can't speak for others.

Community good will is now a Marxist catchphrase? Please, grow up.

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Re: Northern people find "Southern Railway" offensive

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 22:08:54 2010, in response to Re: Smelly people find ''B&O Railroad'' offensive, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 12 19:30:52 2010.

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So ban the Crescent. (Oh wait; it's Amtrak now.)

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Feb 12 22:12:12 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 22:07:39 2010.

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And what's the cost? Millions wasted just to reprint maps for lines because people don't like the name used?

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 22:17:53 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Feb 12 22:12:12 2010.

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Probably very little cost.

from the MARTA statement:

"Given current financial conditions, MARTA will make these print changes as a part of the implementation of other system changes which are anticipated within the next six months. "

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 22:20:01 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Feb 12 22:12:12 2010.

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Shoulda rammed it down the throats of the agitators. Don't like "Yellow Line", move out and let the normal people ride the train, who will be quite happy with it.

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 22:21:53 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 22:20:01 2010.

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Now they're agitators? Stop using fascist catchphrases.

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Re: Asians find the term ''yellow traffic lights" offensive too

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 12 22:28:13 2010, in response to Asians find the term "yellow line" offensive, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 9 11:39:46 2010.

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Hey-Hey, Ho-Ho, Yellow light have gotta go !!!!!<





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Re: Asians, Native Americans and Irish find the term ''yellow traffic lights'' offensive too

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 22:48:42 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow traffic lights" offensive too, posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 12 22:28:13 2010.

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Yeah, all three of 'em.

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Re: Asians, Native Americans and Irish find traffic light colors offensive too

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 22:49:04 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow traffic lights" offensive too, posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 12 22:28:13 2010.

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Yeah, all three of 'em.

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 22:50:43 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 22:21:53 2010.

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Whaddaya mean "now"?

The fascists didn't use that phrase. Certainly not in the US.

You don't stand for something, you fall for anything. MARTA fell pretty hard.

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Feb 12 22:51:32 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 22:17:53 2010.

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Fine then. I don't agree with the whole pc thing, but at least they aren't going to reissue a new map just for this renaming.

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Re: Asians find the term ''yellow traffic lights'' offensive too

Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Feb 12 22:52:01 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow traffic lights" offensive too, posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 12 22:28:13 2010.

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Heh.

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Women find Broad-way line offensive too

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Feb 12 23:20:10 2010, in response to Re: Asians find the term ''yellow traffic lights" offensive too, posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 12 22:28:13 2010.

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Let the imagination in this thread fly.

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Re: Women find Broad-way line offensive too

Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Feb 12 23:25:33 2010, in response to Women find Broad-way line offensive too, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Feb 12 23:20:10 2010.

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Actually, it started a bit higher up in this thread :)

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Feb 12 23:44:45 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 20:21:48 2010.

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They actually don't look good.

Why? Because the administration didn't puff up their chests and say, "It's going to remain the Yellow Line because I said so! Deal with it!"? There is such a thing as "choosing your own battles". I'm sure that if it was a significant hardship for MARTA to make the change, then they probably wouldn't "cave" so quickly.

The worst thing for them to do is make a big deal out of nothing and dig in their heels. Then they are setting themselves up for a lawsuit based on the Title VI anti-discrimination federal law(?), however bogus the claim may be. The media would have a field day with that!

If the group is politically connected, they can certainly put MARTA in a bad light as well. If I'm not mistaken, there are some serious transit funding issues in Georgia, and MARTA needs all the political help it can get as management fights for sufficient funding to can maintain decent service.

The time to dig in the heels is when people complain about how MARTA has to raise fares and streamline services in order to make budget, among other things. However, making such a minor change in a line identification (that was newly renamed) isn't a big deal at all in the grand scheme of things. Is it an eye roller? Yes. However, if it makes the group of people complaining warm and fuzzy, and could potentially add to the support MARTA needs to make it in the future, then just do it!

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Feb 12 23:53:51 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Feb 12 23:44:45 2010.

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I think this sets a bad precedent though. If 'yellow line' is no longer acceptable, what's to stop other advocacy groups from blocking other names like 'brown', 'red', etc.?

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Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive

Posted by straphanger9 on Sat Feb 13 00:00:11 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 14:34:32 2010.

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The only way of getting over racism is ... by viewing it all as a big joke, and then collectively realizing that the stereotypes perpetuated by the jokes weren't really true.

Exactly. Mutual joking cures a lot of ills. We're all different. Laugh at it, take the sting out of it, get it out of your system, and get over it. After the jokes get old, so do the bad feelings, and everyone moves on better for it.

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 13 00:07:15 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Feb 12 23:53:51 2010.

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It is indeed a bad precedent. Soon we speedwise use Newspeak. Yellow Line doublelplusungood!

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Feb 13 00:09:08 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 13 00:07:15 2010.

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lol.

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Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 13 00:10:12 2010, in response to Re: Chinks find the term ''yellow line'' offensive, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 10 14:34:32 2010.

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The only way of getting over racism is how it was done with the Irish: by viewing it all as a big joke, and then collectively realizing that the stereotypes perpetuated by the jokes weren't really true

You haven't seen the Irish of today. They're quite racist. And what's to blame is not their independence, but their dependence on a new empire . . .

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Cavemen Object tot he term "Caves" (was: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line)

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 13 00:11:02 2010, in response to MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Feb 12 02:17:07 2010.

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Some nights ya just can't win.

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Cavemen Object to the term "Caves" (was: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line)

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 13 00:11:29 2010, in response to MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Feb 12 02:17:07 2010.

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Some nights ya just can't win.

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Feb 13 00:45:59 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 22:50:43 2010.

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Not worth a fight. Ya gotta know when to hold'em and when to fold'em.

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Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Feb 13 00:49:30 2010, in response to Re: MARTA caves, it's now officially the Gold Line, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Feb 12 23:44:45 2010.

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IAWTP.

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