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Posted by monorail on Thu May 15 19:53:40 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. Excellent 'artwork' in that first photo!!!! |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 20:24:17 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by monorail on Thu May 15 19:53:40 2008. Even though I'm not at all a graffiti fan, I felt that it added a sense of place to what would otherwise be a standard overhead shot.Glad you liked it! |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu May 15 20:30:04 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. Excellent photos and it's good to...take a hike!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 20:36:43 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by Fred G on Thu May 15 20:30:04 2008. Thanks! |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu May 15 20:37:33 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. Great pics!! |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 20:38:29 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu May 15 20:37:33 2008. Thanks! |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 20:47:31 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. These are nice pics. Those cars are really photogenic, it seems. Would be cool to see those cars fly through the LEX at over 60 miles an hour.I prefer the PA-1, 2, and 3 cars, as opposed to the PA4s, because the older cars have nicer lines, and stainless strips, while the kawasakis are bland, and just corrugated. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 20:55:26 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 20:47:31 2008. Thanks. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu May 15 22:22:13 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. Great photos. We don't get many PATH photos on this board. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu May 15 22:35:42 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu May 15 22:22:13 2008. I didn't even realize until this thread that the older PATH cars only had two doors per car.Nice shots TPOA. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 22:40:04 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. If the PRR and NJDOT had kept Exchange Place Terminal open, those locations would have been good for sightings of Arrows and/or Comets as well. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu May 15 22:45:07 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. Well, finally somebody chronicling the last days of the PA1/2/3/4s! All these tears here for the R32/38/40/42s but no love till now for the PAs....The PA cars have always been a favorite of mine. Nice stuff. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu May 15 22:45:11 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. You're going to jail. : ) |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 22:53:07 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by Easy on Thu May 15 22:35:42 2008. And the thing is, two doors per side is NO BIG DEAL when it comes to loading and unloading. the older cars with two doors are better becasue they have more passenger space.Three doors have no big advantage. Plus you can have more seats with two doors. BMT standards were 67 feet long, and had but three doors, and were used when transit had more usage. This dor nonsense is just that: Nonsense. They should rebuild some 60 footers with more seats, and three doors per side, the doors would be asymetrically spaced, but that would be OK. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 22:54:54 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 22:40:04 2008. when did that terminal shut down? There is no sign of a terminal at exchange place now. I see some embankments around there though. Some places still have rails popping out of the ground too. |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Thu May 15 22:57:36 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. Excellent job! |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 23:03:19 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. Thanks for the comments everyone! |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 23:11:17 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by Forest Glen on Thu May 15 22:57:36 2008. Yeah, believe it or not, some of these photos bring back childhood memories. I remember when there were still plenty of yellow(and a blue popped up sometimes) K cars in work service, though i guess that wasn't all that long ago. I have an intimate history with some of those places. Especially that perch from where he took the fourth photo. The tracks without third rail are freight tracks. It is used quite frequently now to move trains and reverse them to another track, but it wasn't always used so frequently. Used to have regular type trains instead of containers. What are in those gray and blue containers anyways?Was always interesting to see a freight train when it popped up though. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu May 15 23:14:46 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 22:53:07 2008. No, it wouldnt be ok.BMT Standards loaded slower then IND R1-9s, just as PA1-3s load slower then PA4s. A reduction in the number of doors per car on 60 footers would be nothing short of disastrous. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 23:17:33 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by R30A on Thu May 15 23:14:46 2008. i know they would load a BIT slower, but it wouldn't be disastrous.philly's BSS cars have three doors a side, and are good. I believe the cars are over 60 foot long, maybe 67 like the BMT standards. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Thu May 15 23:19:40 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by trainsarefun on Thu May 15 22:45:07 2008. I agree. When I was in NY a few weeks ago my favorite train trips were from the RFW of PATH trains. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu May 15 23:19:56 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 23:17:33 2008. Not a bit slower. A LOT SLOWER.You'd likely get doubled dwell times, resulting in service almost certainly having to be cut significantly, resulting in a severely crippled city |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 23:45:05 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 22:54:54 2008. when did that terminal shut down?1961. Its importance to NJ rail commuting can't be overstated. At one time, it served not only the PRR, but also the LVRR, CNJ, RDG, even Erie and NYSW IIRC (before they had the financial footing to build their own terminals). There is no sign of a terminal at exchange place now. I see some embankments around there though The two inactive embankments are that of the Passaic & Harsimus Cove (PRR freight subsidiary) and the Erie embankment that used to go to Erie Terminal. The elevated railroad that went to Exchange Place was completely ripped out. Not even overhead electrification could save the terminal (it had the 11kV 25Hz overhead typical of the rest of the NEC, so if it had stayed open, even the Metroliner MUs could have left from there). This is my all-time favorite pic of the place. Pre-electrification, and when it still had the great arch shed.  |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 23:51:54 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 23:45:05 2008. WOAH! That is a BIG ARCH. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Fri May 16 01:19:16 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. Nice Pics! |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 16 02:09:19 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. '' dont look --illegal--- to me''rofl keep on shooting !!! |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Fri May 16 04:33:01 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. Nice shots. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 16 05:45:29 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by trainsarefun on Thu May 15 22:45:07 2008. Gee, maybe that's because there are far fewer places to photograph them "legally"? |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 16 07:09:15 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 23:51:54 2008. Like some big European train station. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 16 07:19:26 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 15 23:11:17 2008. Was always interesting to see a freight train when it popped up though.Like this…     …from the red bridge west of Tonnele Avenue. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 16 07:20:52 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. Nice pics. The Journal Square area is a great place for snagging some PATH photos. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Fri May 16 07:45:13 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. Good stuff....we'll hafta do that Journal Square location sometime :o) |
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Posted by kp5308 on Fri May 16 08:23:48 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 23:45:05 2008. At one time, it served not only the PRR, but also the LVRR, CNJ, RDG, even Erie and NYSW IIRCI don't think the RDG/CNJ/B&O ran to Exchange Place, & here's my line of thinking. Feel free to add &/or correct: 1869: NY & Newark(CNJ) opens a terminal on the Hudson. 1873: Exchange Place opens. 1876: Delaware & Bound Brook (RDG) battles the PRR at Hopewell to to cross it's tracks, eventually to connect with the CNJ at Bound Brook. This little caper infuriates the PRR, one of many PRR/RDG squabbles of the era. According to James Holton's book, these two were on somewhat equal footing, PRR being longer & well known, RDG being richer in traffic. I don't recall reading anything about RDG at Exchange Place, nor seeing PRR helping out unless forced to. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri May 16 13:33:02 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Thu May 15 23:19:40 2008. When I was in NY a few weeks ago my favorite train trips were from the RFW of PATH trains.Indeed - it's a fantastic, and pretty broad, view of the action. It's a good thing that you were able to check out PATH while you were here. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri May 16 14:47:53 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 16 07:19:26 2008. Yeah, except when i was younger, the trains didn't come every day like they do now, and the trains had a variety of rolling stock, now it is always a weird blue container train.They use that track to put the train on another track. The locomotives will eventually run around the train, and couple up to the rear of the train. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 14:52:53 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by kp5308 on Fri May 16 08:23:48 2008. Your timeline is a bit off. The New Jersey Railroad had a terminal at Exchange Place before the PRR built the newer one. The CNJ ran to Exchange Place via a connecting track at Broad Street Station in Elizabeth—back then, the CNJ's western terminus was Elizabeth Port and the main lines of both the NJRR and CNJ were at-grade, crossing each other at a diamond. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Fri May 16 15:11:05 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by trainsarefun on Fri May 16 13:33:02 2008. It was a railfanning/busfanning/baseball fanning trip. I was able to experience:NYCT: R32 (on the C and E) R42 (on the J) R46 (on the F and R) R62 (on the 3) R62A (on the 7, and Times Square Shuttle) R68 (on the D) R68A (on the Q) R142 (on the 4) R142A (on the 6) R143 (on the L) R160 (on the N) LIRR M7 (Penn Station - Jamaica) PATH PA1, PA2, PA3, and PA4 |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri May 16 16:30:19 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 16 07:19:26 2008. …from the red bridge west of Tonnele Avenue.That bridge is an excellent location for photos, but unfortunately my camera lens is too large to fit through the tight chain-link fencing. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 16 16:56:19 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Fri May 16 16:30:19 2008. While the fence was a problem for me, I was able to zoom in to get "through" it. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri May 16 17:02:59 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. Nice shots |
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Posted by 156n3rd on Fri May 16 20:40:37 2008, in response to PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 15 19:46:52 2008. Those older models are really hurting. They need a rest, permanently. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 22:02:03 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by 156n3rd on Fri May 16 20:40:37 2008. How are they "really hurting"? And try and answer that question especially in reference to the PA-4. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri May 16 22:32:32 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by 156n3rd on Fri May 16 20:40:37 2008. guy, believe it or not, even the oldest cars on PATH ride better than NYC's NTTS. And they run faster too. PATH is buying new cars for no reason, really, just to act like it cares about something. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri May 16 22:32:52 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by 156n3rd on Fri May 16 20:40:37 2008. guy, believe it or not, even the oldest cars on PATH ride better than NYC's NTTS. And they run faster too. PATH is buying new cars for no reason, really, just to act like it cares about something. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri May 16 22:38:00 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri May 16 22:32:32 2008. PATH aims for a CBTC signal system in a few years. The PA1/2/3s are nearing retirement age anyway, and would likely cost more to overhaul than would new trainsets. As to the PA4s, it's probably thought that fleet uniformity and overhaul costs militate in favor of their retirement too.Based on the NYCT experience on the Canarsie Line trying to implement CBTC - a process that is still not complete - I hope that PATH plans much better. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri May 16 22:39:35 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 16 16:56:19 2008. Those are your pics? I remember them being posted here not that long ago. I remember commenting on them. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri May 16 22:41:37 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by trainsarefun on Fri May 16 22:38:00 2008. it would cost less to overhaul the fleet, and you don't need new cars for CBTC. I was told that some R42s and R68s were fitted with it. |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Fri May 16 22:43:18 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri May 16 22:32:32 2008. Yep i argee those PA1/2/3/4s ride better than those R142/As. The 142/As ride bumpy and unsmooth while the path cars ride much smoother. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Fri May 16 22:45:31 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Port Authority Trans-Hudson, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Fri May 16 22:43:18 2008. And at GREATER speeds.NYCTA always goes for cheap cars now days, while they pay over a million dollars per car. Even PATH got a better deal on their new cars. |
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