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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Dec 31 07:33:35 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Dec 29 09:46:03 2006.

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Wow, one of the few times you guys probably buy oysters.....

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Dec 31 07:35:37 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 18:01:53 2006.

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Now, now, comparing to what, R40's?

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Dec 31 07:37:02 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 30 06:28:05 2006.

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Yeah, me too....that last time I was in London, I didn't have a digital camera yet (it was just before), and you can't go snap crazy when you are using film, so I only have a few slides here and there.

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Dec 31 07:38:54 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Dec 31 07:35:37 2006.

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Even to R-38's!

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Dec 31 07:38:59 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 23:11:32 2006.

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That's what BART in San Francisco has too, IIRC, but it's been a few years....

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Dec 31 07:39:57 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Dec 31 07:16:48 2006.

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Yeah, they tried padded seats on the R16's, and I think the R17's on the IRT. They were red vinyl, IINM. Yeah, "that" worked out well.....

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Dec 31 07:46:46 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Dec 31 07:39:57 2006.

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Even if you ride the full length (38 minutes) of the MFSE, the new harder seats are tolerable. The padded ones were more comfortable, but they did not hold up well. The story is that when the M4's were ordered, they wanted the best , most comfortable seats for the riding public. Now we know the rest of the story.

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Dec 31 07:50:40 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 23:12:07 2006.

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I probably do, but my computer is currently undergoing surgery.

Hopefully, the hospital stay will be short, and a full recovery will be had.

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by MATHA531 on Sun Dec 31 08:20:03 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Dec 30 23:35:28 2006.

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Hmmm..

Green poles...are these cars on the district line?

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Dec 31 08:26:02 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by MATHA531 on Sun Dec 31 08:20:03 2006.

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Where else does D Stock run?

The car in the last pic is signed for Ealing Broadway. Surely it's a wee bit too large for the Central line.

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Dec 31 08:55:31 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Dec 31 07:50:40 2006.

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I'm pleased to say that it's feeling much better today.

With that, here's some rehabbed D Stock:

Stamford Brook #1
Stamford Brook #2
Richmond #1
Richmond #2
Kew Gardens #1
Kew Gardens #2 with lost terrorists
Chiswick Park #1
Upminster (right)

For comparative purposes, here's some unrehabbed:

South Kensington
Stamford Brook #1
Stamford Brook #2
Ealing Broadway
Wimbledon #1
Wimbledon #2
Wimbledon Park #1
Wimbledon Park #2
Acton Town #1
Acton Town #2
Acton Town #3
Upminster #1 (left)
Upminster #2 with 7 train terrorist

interior #1
interior #2
interior #3

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 09:05:05 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Dec 30 23:17:48 2006.

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:-) And if they're on the Central Section, those are:

4 - Victoria - Brighton Fast via Quarry (should be a CIG+BIG+CIG, but never mind!)
14 - Victoria - Brighton Semi-Fast (originally via Redhill, later via Quarry - for some reason via Redhill became 34)

Alternatively, they could be:

WESTERN SECTION
4 - Waterloo - Portsmouth Harbour via Bookham (was this *EVER* used?!?)
14 - Waterloo - Waterloo via Richmond and Chertsey, or Waterloo - Woking via Richmond and Chertsey, or Southampton Terminus - Andover Junction via Eastleigh

EASTERN SECTION (ex-SER LINES)
4 - Charing X - Folkestone Central / Margate via Orpington
14 - Charing X - Orpington via Lewisham

EASTERN SECTION (ex-LCDR LINES)
4 - Victoria (Eastern) - Kent House
14 - Victoria (Eastern) - Folkestone Harbour / Dover Western Docks via Herne Hill and Bat & Ball


Actually, that looks quite a lot like the Brighton Line - I could bet on the first shot being somewhere in the Coulsdon area, and the second one near Earlswood.

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 09:13:56 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Sun Dec 31 08:26:02 2006.

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The car in the last pic is signed for Ealing Broadway. Surely it's a wee bit too large for the Central line.

Well, it could have accidentally been sent to White City and was trying to get home...


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Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 15:05:03 2006, in response to Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by DCmetrogreen on Sat Dec 30 20:19:43 2006.

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If I don't get hit by the cars and LARGE buses going back asswards, I will surely take more photos of the weird trains.

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Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 15:05:37 2006, in response to Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Dec 30 20:35:03 2006.

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Thanks fellow Nikonian.

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Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 15:07:21 2006, in response to Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:50:19 2006.

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The building on the left?

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Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by BIE on Sun Dec 31 15:13:42 2006, in response to Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 15:05:37 2006.

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I'm glad I use Canon.

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Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 15:15:17 2006, in response to Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 15:07:21 2006.

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Yeah - it's very typical of the Piccadilly Line in central London (although the Bakerloo and Northern Lines also have some similar-looking stations).

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PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 15:18:51 2006, in response to Cockfosters, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 29 06:33:02 2006.

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sunday photos - part I (maybe)

I think I'm heading back out...

Happy New Year.

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 15:36:41 2006, in response to PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 15:18:51 2006.

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South Ken - delightful waste of a good station.

Embankment - used to be a loop terminus, hence the curvature.

Camden Town - Oxford Street of the North. Also note the absolutely crass layout of the station.



So you liked the Pendolinos?


So what was Thunderbird 57316 FAB 1 on the head of?


I spy the Chapter 11 Choo Choo!

Oh, and the bus is much quicker from King's Cross to the British Museum than all those escalators to and from the Picc... but 1973 Stock's much better than any bus!

Then your evening looks a bit complex! I see you enjoyed the destination indicators at South Ken. And I don't think I've ever seen a shot from the angle of the last one before! Nice pics!

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Dec 31 15:54:59 2006, in response to PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 15:18:51 2006.

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nice

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 18:19:18 2006, in response to PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 15:18:51 2006.

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I think I'm heading back out...

Guess where I went on my railfan trip just now. Here are the lines I used or peeked at:

Circle
big trains (peek)
Bakerloo
Circle / Hammersmith & City (peek)
Metropolitan
Jubilee
Piccadilly
District

And I took just about as many photos in the last 2.5 hours as I did from 10am to 6pm today.

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 18:40:29 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 18:19:18 2006.

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Guess where I went on my railfan trip just now. Here are the lines I used or peeked at:

Okay, here goes...

START: Gloucester Rd (probably, else South Ken)
Circle
big trains (peek)
Paddington
Bakerloo
Circle / Hammersmith & City (peek)
Baker Street
Metropolitan
Wembley Park (?)
Jubilee
Green Park
Piccadilly
Acton Town (?)
District
FINISH: Gloucester Rd (probably, else South Ken)

And I took just about as many photos in the last 2.5 hours as I did from 10am to 6pm today.

:-D

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Dec 31 19:29:36 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by JohnL on Sat Dec 30 21:45:42 2006.

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MBTA Blue and Orange Lines...

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Dec 31 19:33:28 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 23:11:32 2006.

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On second thought, you're right. I was confusing the seats with something else.

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 31 19:36:35 2006, in response to PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 15:18:51 2006.

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Nice shots brah, and I see the Tokina is out to play too :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 20:18:59 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 18:40:29 2006.

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Almost! Pic South Ken, District to Gloucester. I made the transfer so I could inspect the mossy platform and the other abandoned stuff there. And it didn't hurt that it added another line to my trip.

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 20:20:35 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 31 19:36:35 2006.

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Thanks! Yes, the Tokina made some clutch plays.

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Dec 31 20:20:52 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 20:18:59 2006.

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You should have walked so you could have used the tunnel.

Then again, the tunnel is best experienced during the day, when it's swarming with schoolchildren.

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 20:27:11 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Dec 30 20:20:19 2006.

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Thanks, but I'm going to bed.

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 20:28:25 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by David of Broadway on Sun Dec 31 20:20:52 2006.

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The tunnel doesn't take me where I want to go.

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Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by JohnL on Sun Dec 31 20:31:15 2006, in response to Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 15:07:21 2006.

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It’s a Leslie Green station. If you see the iconic terracotta tiles and arched windows, you can be sure that the building was once a headhouse of the Piccadilly, Northern or Bakerloo lines.

A fair number of these have been converted to other uses: station closures (eg Down St) or the station has been converted from lifts to escalators (eg Hyde Park Corner).

More information here!

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PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part II - railfans' delight (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 20:38:11 2006, in response to Cockfosters, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 29 06:33:02 2006.

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Sorry about the title.

Anyhow, Rail Blue got my itinerary pretty correct. I made some changes.

START: Gloucester Rd
Circle
big trains (peek)
Paddington
Bakerloo
Circle / Hammersmith & City (peek)
Baker Street
Metropolitan
Wembley Park
Jubilee
Green Park
Piccadilly
South Kensington
District
FINISH: Gloucester Rd

THE PHOTOS



Click the pic to view all the photos. Enjoy!

Highlight for Album: December 31, 2006 - LONDON Underground nighttime railfan excursion

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by JohnL on Sun Dec 31 20:39:42 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 18:40:29 2006.

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There was a Tottenham Court Road picture in there somewhere. I think the walk from Russell Square to the BM is better than the walk from TCR—you get to enjoy a real lift (or walk up the 194 stairs!) and then pass through bits of the University of London, like Senate House, which is worthwhile taking a look at the outside.

But then I’m biased: my hall of residence was in Tavistock Square, just round the corner, and I studied for a while in the Computer Science Department of Birkbeck College, which is in the North Wing of Senate House.

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by JohnL on Sun Dec 31 20:40:36 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:02:29 2006.

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Now you have mastered that one, try “Cirencester”!

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Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by JohnL on Sun Dec 31 20:45:05 2006, in response to Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 15:05:03 2006.

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Known problem for the Yanks looking the wrong way: that’s why there are arrows painted on the pedestrian crossings so that there are fewer people who need to be scraped up…

I dunno though, tiny trains and huge buses going on the wrong side of the road, you think you were in Europe or something!

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 20:53:44 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by JohnL on Sun Dec 31 20:39:42 2006.

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There was a Tottenham Court Road picture in there somewhere. I think the walk from Russell Square to the BM is better than the walk from TCR—you get to enjoy a real lift (or walk up the 194 stairs!) and then pass through bits of the University of London, like Senate House, which is worthwhile taking a look at the outside.

My preferred tactic from St Pancras (or King's Cross, or Euston) is:

1) Cross the Euston Road
2) Catch the 10, 73, or 390 westbound
3) Get off on Bloomsbury Street
4) Walk around the corner into Great Russell Street

But then again, I'm lazy. (And it doesn't work as well north/eastbound.)

But then I’m biased: my hall of residence was in Tavistock Square, just round the corner, and I studied for a while in the Computer Science Department of Birkbeck College, which is in the North Wing of Senate House.

My usual targets are the BM and the Institute of Classical Studies Library (certainly worth the Hellenic Society's annual sub, if you can find where it's moved to this week).

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 20:56:44 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 20:28:25 2006.

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The tunnel doesn't take me where I want to go.

Don't you want to go to the Routemaster stop?

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part II - railfans' delight (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Dec 31 20:58:46 2006, in response to PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part II - railfans' delight (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 20:38:11 2006.

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Nice. I see the 30mm f1.4 has served you well.

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 21:04:26 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by JohnL on Sun Dec 31 20:39:42 2006.

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we did:

russell sq -> British Museum -> TCR

we are equal opportunity tube riders

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 21:05:08 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by JohnL on Sun Dec 31 20:40:36 2006.

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i'm going to use a lifeline

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Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 21:06:22 2006, in response to Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by JohnL on Sun Dec 31 20:31:15 2006.

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It’s a Leslie Green station. If you see the iconic terracotta tiles and arched windows, you can be sure that the building was once a headhouse of the Piccadilly, Northern or Bakerloo lines.

And within the Circle, there are IINM just two surviving that aren't on the Picc: Goodge Street and Oxford Circus. Goodge Street isn't exactly the most used station inside the Circle, whilst you generally can't see Oxford Circus station for the crowds, so the Leslie Green headhouses have a strong (if slightly erroneous) association with the Piccadilly Line.

Oh, and even London Underground's cartographers only think there are three... ;-)

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part II - railfans' delight (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 21:09:47 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part II - railfans' delight (Was: Cockfosters), posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Dec 31 20:58:46 2006.

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Yes, thanks.

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Re: Cockfosters

Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 21:13:29 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 21:05:08 2006.

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Most people these days pronounce it as four syllables, stressed on the first. But Sissister and Sissiter are also the same place.

It's effectively the odd one out as it's the one that's generally pronounced intuitively.

Of course, -cesters aren't the only tricky placenames. I got a DVD for Christmas, narrated by an American, including the stretch of the East Coast Main Line from Burr Wick to Edinburrow.

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 21:15:55 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 20:53:44 2006.

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listen, i just took my very first london bus ride on the 183 this afternoon and we only went two stops and i got real nervous after everyone but 1 person got off at the first stop.

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part II - railfans' delight (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 21:25:16 2006, in response to PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part II - railfans' delight (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 20:38:11 2006.

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You like those abandoned platforms, don't you! Have you figured out the original layout of Gloucester Road station yet?

I still feel there's clearly something wrong about an arrival on platform 1 at Paddington. The place in some ways is even more blatant than Euston in having separate arrivals and departures sides.

Pity the 168 you snapped was the version with the boring front end. 168/0s are much better IMO.

Bond Street - eugh, isn't it grotesque!?

That Picc above ground poster is great! I must see if the museum shop has one some time...

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 21:31:42 2006, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 21:15:55 2006.

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listen, i just took my very first london bus ride on the 183 this afternoon and we only went two stops and i got real nervous after everyone but 1 person got off at the first stop.

:-) Let me guess, the first stop was the Finchley Road, and the second was Golder's Green station!

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part II - railfans' delight (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sun Dec 31 22:45:47 2006, in response to PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part II - railfans' delight (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 31 20:38:11 2006.

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You are going to make me buy another camera with an aperture setting that owns the night.

But not right now. Anyway, your pics rock.

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 1 03:30:46 2007, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part I (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 21:31:42 2006.

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yep! so i went up and asked the driver if he went to the station and he said yes.

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Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part II - railfans' delight (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 1 03:32:24 2007, in response to Re: PHOTOS -- London - Sunday - Part II - railfans' delight (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Rail Blue on Sun Dec 31 21:25:16 2006.

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Yes, I LOVE abandoned stations!

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