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Posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 18:01:53 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 11:17:38 2006. The seats in 1967 and 1972 Stock are seriously underpadded.I don't mind sitting sideways. I'd rather have neato huge windows curving over my head than sit facing forwards or backwards. And I agree with you entirely about C Stock. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 18:36:44 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Dec 29 10:05:39 2006. It was on the south side of the tracks. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 18:51:34 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Wado MP73 on Fri Dec 29 13:41:41 2006. Or perhaps the Museum Depot. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 18:58:11 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Dec 29 10:16:18 2006. they are FREAKING tiny!!!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:01:06 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Dec 29 10:06:58 2006. Thanks! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:02:17 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by R30A on Fri Dec 29 12:26:19 2006. sort of ryhmes with "roster" |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:02:29 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by R30A on Fri Dec 29 12:26:19 2006. sort of rhymes with "roster" |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:03:06 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by JohnL on Fri Dec 29 11:11:57 2006. Thanks! I'll try to take a lot of photos. We're having a great time so far! |
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Posted by soton si on Sat Dec 30 19:05:02 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 17:59:22 2006. even if I didn't need a travelcard, it's cheaper than a return to zone 1 on Oyster!Young Persons get discounts on Oyster if 1)they are under 16 and have a special Oyster card (effectively child rate) 2)they study at a school/college/university inside the M25, order a special oyster card, and even then it's only on seasons (ie a week or longer) that discounts apply. Students who live in London, but study elsewhere are ineligable for discounted tickets. National Rail offers, for £20, a railcard to under 26s that gives 33% off the bearer's NR tickets for a year. Rules apply about off peak if below a certain price, etc. As LU has never really been integrated with the rest of the country's rail, the only tickets that can be brought from LU ticket offices using the railcard are all-zone (1-6), one-day, off-peak travelcards, and extensions for further out on the met (and any NR fares they are willing to offer, like to the stations with direct NR trains). one other side effect of the LU/NR split is that I can't buy a ticket to Amersham at most NR stations (the exceptions being few in number) - any other station on the NR network is fine (with the obvious exceptions of other Met/NR stations, and possibly Gunnersbury + Kew Gardens) from any NR ticket office. For instance, I can buy a single from any NR station to Great Missenden, but I can't buy a single from any NR station that doesn't have an LU ticket office or a direct train to Amersham. I can't even buy a ticket to Zone D unless i'm in London, maybe even only if i'm on LU or at Marylebone NR. It's a disgrace, the only bonus is that London only costs about 60p more to get to (via one day travelcard with railcard) than Aylesbury (cheap day return with railcard). |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:07:31 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Dec 29 13:50:09 2006. Thanks. I'll try to ride the Bakerloo. I rode the Northern today.I didn't even think about Abbey Road. Maybe if we're in the area. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 19:13:45 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:07:31 2006. Did your Morden via Charing Cross train turn into a Morningside Crescent train, followed by a Morden via Bank train turning into a Moorgate train? That happened to me once. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:43:29 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Wado MP73 on Fri Dec 29 14:34:42 2006. I still remember how you could peek through the opening and see red trains (probably CP/CO stock) running under the terminal.Yeah, I heard a noise and then looked over the wall and saw the trains down there. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:43:42 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Dec 29 14:10:35 2006. Citadines |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:48:27 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 30 06:28:05 2006. Will do!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:52:46 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:43:29 2006. sorry, i was talking about the gloucester road headhouse |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:57:58 2006, in response to Cockfosters, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 29 06:33:02 2006. frisat |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Dec 30 20:04:54 2006, in response to LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:57:58 2006. Nice! Thanks! Have a great time. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Dec 30 20:10:00 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Market-Frankford on Sat Dec 30 14:20:32 2006. Why? "All trains go to Charing Cross, Waterloo, and Kennington" already suggests that "only some continue to Morden" while letting you know that all trains go to popular destinations like Charing X and Waterloo. |
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Posted by DCmetrogreen on Sat Dec 30 20:19:43 2006, in response to Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Dec 30 20:04:54 2006. Hey, nice pics! Keep up with the good work! (I keep forgetting that they run the trains bass ackwards!) |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Dec 30 20:20:19 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:52:46 2006. Anyway, have fun. Tube will be free from 11:45pm until 4:30am for the New Year's eve all night service. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Dec 30 20:35:03 2006, in response to LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:57:58 2006. Nice. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:09:03 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 18:01:53 2006. The seats in 1967 and 1972 Stock are seriously underpadded.It must just be that they're padded in different places, as I find the 1992 Stock's seats perfectly suited to the Waterloo & City Line (but the windows are wasted down there, I admit). Ultimately, all tube seats are pretty awful though. The only thing going for them is they don't try to squeeze three abreast (I hate unrefurbished 455s!). But there is an aspect of relief on a hot July day to emerge from the crush of the Drain into a refurbed 455 with the roof of Waterloo station shimmering in the sunshine. And the stretch of railway from Waterloo to Clapham Junction is scenic. :-) And I agree with you entirely about C Stock. I'm waiting to see if the S Stock's going to be any more comfortable than C Stock. I doubt it. I'm also waiting to see if it will be any faster than A Stock on those nice fast runs. I doubt that even more. Oh, and I should like the C Stock... it was the first stock I ever rode (Wimbleware, August 1987)! I still am not as keen on it as the other surface stocks. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:10:42 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 18:58:11 2006. Nah, the Post Office Railway's cars were tiny... |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:12:50 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 19:13:45 2006. My head hurts. Actually, the Northern Line is the one place where:*** CORRECTION *** can mean something good. I've had it turn a seven minute wait into "STAND BACK TRAIN APPROACHING" before. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:14:27 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Dec 30 20:20:19 2006. Tube will be free from 11:45pm until 4:30am for the New Year's eve all night service.And buses. I wonder if they'll be running the 465 at that time of night... |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:17:12 2006, in response to LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:57:58 2006. I like the dead lifts and the typical MetR modesty! |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:24:03 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Dec 30 20:10:00 2006. Why? "All trains go to Charing Cross, Waterloo, and Kennington" already suggests that "only some continue to Morden" while letting you know that all trains go to popular destinations like Charing X and Waterloo.The useful additional information would be: "for Oval and all stations to Morden, change at Kennington as required" (i.e. it's no use getting off before then!). IINM, there is a sign somewhere saying something like that (or failing that a variable message that's more use than the standard nonsense), but I don't tend to pay much attention at Euston because I tend to use it a lot. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 21:25:47 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:09:03 2006. Tube seats are great! |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 30 21:27:15 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 21:25:47 2006. Even better than the R40??!! Hehe, ok, so I'm stricken with Weisenheimer's, and early in life.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 21:31:16 2006, in response to Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:17:12 2006. It looks like something once covered the word LONDON.Where was the Piccadilly headhouse at Gloucester Road? |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:34:58 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 21:25:47 2006. Tube seats are great!Depends what you're comparing them to. I wish they'd bring back the VEPs on the Southern - the declassified 1st Class Compartment seats were the best on any local train in London. Damn healthnsafety! |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 21:42:25 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:34:58 2006. Compared to anything in the U.S. |
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Posted by JohnL on Sat Dec 30 21:45:42 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:34:58 2006. Any subway system that I have seen in the US: I have yet to see a padded seat of any description in a current US subway.If I’m wrong, please feel free to correct me… |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:46:37 2006, in response to Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 21:31:16 2006. It looks like something once covered the word LONDON.My guess is ENGLAND. Remember who the Met had a joint line with. Yes, the Money Sunk & Lost, now Gone Completely. In 1899/1900 it was even looking like the GCR would do a deal with the virtually bankrupt Stratford-upon-Avon and Midland Junction Railway and the as-yet-unbuilt and looking for funds North Warwickshire Railway and provide a third route to Birmingham as well as Manchester and Sheffield. In the end, Watkin-world didn't work, but you can't help but admire the ruthless optimism. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 21:47:30 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by JohnL on Sat Dec 30 21:45:42 2006. MFL, but they were recently removed. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 21:49:37 2006, in response to Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:46:37 2006. I'm reading Christian Wolmar's Subterranean Railway right now. Great book. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:50:19 2006, in response to Re: LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 21:31:16 2006. Where was the Piccadilly headhouse at Gloucester Road?Around the corner. Here's a photo from the LTM Collection: 
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Dec 30 22:28:16 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by JohnL on Sat Dec 30 21:45:42 2006. WMATA & BART have them |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Dec 30 22:31:41 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 21:47:30 2006. They still have padded seats, albeit they're not as soft as the old ones.PATCO also has padded seats, for the record. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Dec 30 22:37:31 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Dec 29 14:32:09 2006. Anyone have photos of rehabbed D stock? |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 23:11:32 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Dec 30 22:31:41 2006. No they're not, at least not on the train we rode on Wednesday. They're carpeted seats, like on NYCT buses. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 23:12:07 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Dec 30 22:37:31 2006. I probably do, but my computer is currently undergoing surgery. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Dec 30 23:17:48 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Dec 30 21:34:58 2006. Well at least they always at least have the VEPs for MSTS! 
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Dec 30 23:24:34 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Dec 29 14:32:09 2006. I like the 72 MkII for the warm and brown interior, mushy padded seats, cool porthole lights at the bulkheads and the best wheel noise in the entire LU! At Paddington, you can hear 'em weeping all the way up in Praed Street!The 95's have the snazziest black and lemon interiors - nice contrast, and the D stock in unrehabbed state is nice and rustic, with the same oatmeal melamine material on the interior panels that I used to have on my elementary school cafeteria tabletops. wayne |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Dec 30 23:31:02 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Dec 30 22:37:31 2006. 
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 30 23:31:14 2006, in response to LONDON -- Friday and Saturday PHOTOS added (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 30 19:57:58 2006. Muy bien!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Dec 30 23:35:28 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Dec 30 23:31:02 2006. Old Interior:  Refurbished Interior:  
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Dec 31 07:16:48 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 23:11:32 2006. Correct, the buses are the same way. The old padded seats were a sham.The riders ruined them. There are stories around of a secret room where the messed up seats were stored until fixed. |
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Posted by JohnL on Sun Dec 31 07:18:48 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Dec 30 19:13:45 2006. Morningside Crescent?!Mornington Crescent! How many other stations have an internationally famous game named after them? |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Dec 31 07:29:07 2006, in response to Re: Cockfosters, posted by JohnL on Sun Dec 31 07:18:48 2006. Slip of the fingers. My sincere apologies to all offended Mornington Crescent championship winners.On the evening in question, I think the train won the game. The passengers certainly didn't; we all got booted off at Camden Town. |
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