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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Feb 13 15:39:00 2020 Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routesPresident Donald Trump's administration yesterday unveiled a proposed fiscal-year 2021 budget that calls for cutting Amtrak funding by more than 50 percent compared with 2020 levels. The White House budget would cut funding to the Northeast Corridor from $700 million to $325 million, as well as cut funding for long-distance train routes from $1.3 billion to $611 million. After that, the White House would phase out support for Amtrak's long-distance trains, Reuters reported. The budget also would provide $13.2 billion for public transportation, a $303 million increase from the FY2020 enacted level, according to the American Public Transportation Association (APTA). However, the budget would cut passenger-rail grant programs by $712 million for a total of $1.8 billion. Trump's budgets have called for similar cuts in the past, but have been rejected. Democrats are not likely to go along with this latest proposal. Meanwhile, the Trump budget also proposed a 10-year, $810 billion plan for surface transportation reauthorization to replace the FAST Act, which expires Sept. 30. The amount is $75 billion above current law levels, according to APTA. That proposal includes $155.4 billion for public transit over the 10 years. The administration stated that it would submit a comprehensive surface transportation reauthorization proposal in the coming months, APTA officials said in a legislative update. RAIL ROAD NEWS |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Feb 13 15:50:19 2020, in response to Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Feb 13 15:39:00 2020. much better to phase out the orange liar. Had the GOP not rammed through the tax giveaway which is now accelerating the deficit, there would be plenty of federal revenue available to upgrade/improve transit, intercity rail etc. We allknow that the Hudson and Baltimore tunnels are in dire need of replacement/general overhaul. And let us not forget the massive waste at the five sided money pit in northern VA. Half a dozen of the totally unnecessary F35s would pay for both the Hudsonand Baltimore tunnels. Money pi$$ed away on more nukes (we still have enough to obliterate all mankind 3-4 times) would easily pay for a couple of useful HSR projects--LA--LV, Milw--Stl, CLE-PGH as examples.This budget is like a family, having given away all of their savings/IRAs etc, now wants 3 new yachts, two ski resort condo's while the actual house needs a new roof, upgraded electrical, HVAC, not to mention weatherizing and solar. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Feb 13 16:00:07 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Feb 13 15:50:19 2020. I didn't know you were the type of person who hates having money or buying stuff.Are you a monk on the internets? |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Feb 13 17:37:25 2020, in response to Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Feb 13 15:39:00 2020. Irrelevant. A budget proposal is not a passed budget. We told you that on OTC but apparently you didn't believe it. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Feb 13 17:41:18 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Dave on Thu Feb 13 17:37:25 2020. IT WAS NOT FROM FOX SO IT WAS FAKE RIGHT ??ROFL LOL |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 13 18:10:42 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Feb 13 17:41:18 2020. Any President's budget, D or R is DOA, regardless of whether Congress is D or R.Amtrak has very good support on both sides of the aisle. Best evidence of that is the Senate's effort to save the Southwest Chief from Anderson's and Gardner's claws. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Feb 13 18:40:33 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 13 18:10:42 2020. LETS HOPE SO |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Feb 13 18:54:02 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Feb 13 18:40:33 2020. Told ya, Fool. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Feb 13 22:30:48 2020, in response to Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Feb 13 15:39:00 2020. There's no such thing as a "Trump's budget". Congress has the power of the purse. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 14 14:55:11 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Dave on Thu Feb 13 17:37:25 2020. Whatever. It shows Trump's anti-rail priorities. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Feb 14 18:35:07 2020, in response to Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Feb 13 15:39:00 2020. Haven't such cuts have been threatened in the past? They won't pass.But why does the NEC need funding at all? I thought that was profitable. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Feb 14 18:53:24 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Feb 14 18:35:07 2020. Amtrakdoes use GAAP. Their creative accounting claims profit, but supporting data is not transparent. Unlike most oftheir otherroutes,Amtrak actually is supposed to maintain the ROW. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Feb 14 18:59:51 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Dave on Thu Feb 13 18:54:02 2020. NO IDIOT ALL REPUBLICANS WANT TO KILL AMTRAK !!!YOU NUT DUNCE |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 14 18:59:56 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Feb 14 18:35:07 2020. It s counting some NEC operating expenses as capital and mis-allocating NEC fix costs onto the LD trains.https://www.railpassengers.org/site/assets/files/7353/amtraks_route_accounting_-_fatally_flawed.pdf |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Feb 14 19:17:34 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 14 14:55:11 2020. Exactly. It may have little chance of passing, but it shows what his wish list is. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 14 19:47:49 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Feb 14 18:59:51 2020. If that were true, Amtrak would not have survived multiple House and/or Senate majorities over the last 49 years. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Feb 14 20:54:02 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Feb 14 18:59:51 2020. No, that is not correct. Think back to Senator Trent Lott, an unreconstructed segregationist, but a supporter of Amtrak service for his Mississippi constituents. There have been others. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 14 20:57:25 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Feb 14 20:54:02 2020. Including 3 of 6 Senators in Kansas, New Mexico, and Colorado all save the Southwest Chief. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Feb 14 21:20:18 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 14 20:57:25 2020. correct. The Amtrak LDTs bring us "strange bedfellows" as allies. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Feb 14 21:51:30 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Feb 14 18:59:51 2020. Wrong again, Fool.Senator Roger Wicker of MS is an Amtrak supporter. Sandy Stimpson, the Republican mayor of Mobile, AL, is an Amtrak supporter. Recently retired Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant is an Amtrak supporter. Former Sen. Trent Lott of MS was and current Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison of TX is a supporter of Amtrak. Sens. Jerry Moran of KS, Cory Gardner of CO, and Pat Roberts of KS are all Amtrak supporters. Last year they helped get funding to continue service on the Southwest Chief. So not all Republicans want to kill Amtrak, you idiot. Now how about shutting your pie hole since you're never correct? |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Feb 14 23:13:50 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 14 18:59:56 2020. OK, but if it's profitable on paper, why would they be given taxpayer funding for the "profitable" route? Seems like it would be hard to justify. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 15 06:38:01 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Feb 14 23:13:50 2020. Operating profit, not including "capital" expenses. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 15 06:39:26 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Dave on Fri Feb 14 21:51:30 2020. Any all all Republicans along the Empire Builder route are also, plus Collins of Maine. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Feb 15 22:45:00 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 15 06:39:26 2020. Please don't confuse Salaam with the facts. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Feb 16 04:37:56 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Dave on Fri Feb 14 21:51:30 2020. NY Rep Elise Stefanik and former rep Chris Gibson are also Amtrak supporters. They pushed back on Anderson's rule change that resulted in the Toys for Tots train being cancelled. Stefanik has also been championing the efforts to get preclearance in Montreal because the Adirondack is the primary train through her district, and got a Golden Spike from NARP for her efforts. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 16 06:03:45 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Feb 16 04:37:56 2020. preclearance in MontrealNice idea, but what do those US Customs agents do for the remainder of their 8 hour work day? If they're at the border, they can move over into huge work pool needed at the main highway crossing for the rest of their day. I suppose they could go over to the airport, but it would be very inefficient. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Feb 16 07:47:02 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Feb 16 04:37:56 2020. Don't tell Salaam! You'll ruin his narrative. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Feb 16 09:04:44 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 16 06:03:45 2020. Not Amtrak's problem. We have enough to worry about in keeping the train funding intact w/o concerning ourselves about US Custom's agents downtime. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 16 10:22:33 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Feb 16 09:04:44 2020. ???Preclearance in Montreal isn't going to happen unless US Customs and Border Protection agrees to it or is ordered to agree. And it would cost them a lot of money to agree. Where that money comes from is likely to be Amtrak's problem, despite any push that Stefanik makes. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 16 11:15:03 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 16 06:03:45 2020. We don't care how they will otherwise fill their day. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 16 11:16:54 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 16 10:22:33 2020. You have not been following this issue over the years.The treaties have been signed. The issue is now in Quebec Provincial government in QC to fund it, or their getting the federal government in Ottawa to do so. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Feb 16 11:43:24 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 16 06:03:45 2020. There's an airport with preclearance less than a 30 minute drive away from the station. Hell these guys will probably love being able to lunch downtown with travel time on the clock compared to airport food all day.Albany Airport had a similar problem: back in the day there was one international flight. Customs guys who normally handle the port of Albany would drive 15 minutes to the airport, meet the plane, handle the seven passengers (it was an Air Canada Cessna), then go back to the port. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 16 11:50:14 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Feb 16 11:43:24 2020. The pre-clearance facility in Montreal Central will be modeled after what goes on now in Vancouver Pacific Central (nee-CN) station. The facility will be constructed by Track 23, where all inbound Adirondack and eventually Vermonter trains will arrive and depart.This is not something Stefanink woke up one day and had a revelation over. This issue has been on-going for many years before she was elected. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Feb 16 12:03:56 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 16 10:22:33 2020. I was just addressing the issue that you brought up about what are the US Customs agents going to do for the balance of their 8hr shift.Once again, that is not Amtrak's problem. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 16 12:11:09 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 16 11:15:03 2020. You don't care, but whoever has to pay the bills will care very much.Henry says it's a short drive to the airport (I tend to think of the airport as being way out there), so maybe the extra expense is less than I thought. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 16 12:11:58 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Feb 16 12:03:56 2020. It's Amtrak's problem if they have to pay for it. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 16 12:26:35 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 16 12:11:09 2020. They do it in Vancouver for 2 Amtrak round trips per day. The issue with hours has been dealt with. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 16 12:32:52 2020, in response to Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Feb 13 15:39:00 2020. Huge investment in local public transportation and decreased investment in long distance trains. Makes sense to me. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Feb 16 15:41:36 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 16 12:32:52 2020. Unfortunately, a lot of small towns in the middle of the country rely on these services for their survival and their ability to connect them with the rest of the country. Removing them would have a detriment on many a communities. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 16 15:44:49 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 16 12:32:52 2020. Makes no sense at all. Interstate transportation is a federal responsibility. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Feb 16 15:59:09 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Dave on Sat Feb 15 22:45:00 2020. FACT IS REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO KILL AMTRAK FOR YEARSFACT TRUMPANZEE FOOL |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Feb 16 15:59:28 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 15 06:39:26 2020. BULLSHIT |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Feb 16 16:00:34 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Dave on Fri Feb 14 21:51:30 2020. REPUBLICANS CONSIDER AMTRAK ''''WELFARE'''' !! |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Feb 16 16:02:15 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Dave on Sun Feb 16 07:47:02 2020. MOST REPUBLICANS CONSIDER AMTRAK ''WELFARE'' |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 16 16:16:33 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Feb 16 16:00:34 2020. Some do. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Feb 16 16:55:15 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 16 16:16:33 2020. A WHOLE LOT |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Feb 16 17:04:01 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Dave on Fri Feb 14 21:51:30 2020. When that Indian woman becomes president and gas is $10/gallon, they'll wish they didn't cut Amtrak. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Feb 16 17:12:19 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Feb 16 17:04:01 2020. IAWTP |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Feb 16 17:12:53 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 16 12:11:58 2020. Considering all the other heavy duty operational expenses, I can't see the cost of a few customs agents as being the dealbreaker for the existance of that train. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Feb 16 18:40:58 2020, in response to Re: Trump's budget slashes Amtrak funding, phases out long-distance routes, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Feb 16 15:41:36 2020. Beef up Greyhound service to those cities if necessary and call it a day. If it’s not the Northeast Corridor, Pacific Surfliner, Cascades, etc then things are looking bleak at this point and you can pretty much stick a fork in it. |
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