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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 06:18:24 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 06:05:19 2019. LOL!Phones have accessibility features which increase the size of text, or increase contrast. Printed pages do not. That and they have this thing called glasses, or contact lenses. I actually have imperfect vision and should wear contact lenses again, but am too lazy to go out and get a prescription. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 06:26:04 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Dan on Mon Jun 17 06:13:39 2019. There is an easy way to disable a stolen iPhone online. And if you don't enable Express Transit (the titular "cool OMNY feature"), no one without your fingerprints/face can use your OMNY card anyway.I have an EasyPay Express MetroCard and lack online access because I don't know what my account number is because it was only ever printed on the welcome letter, which I destroyed along with most of my incoming mail. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 07:30:22 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 06:26:04 2019. Yeh, you can disable it, and then you run to the Apple Store and spring $700 for another one. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 07:38:25 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 07:30:22 2019. A refurbished iPhone 8 costs about $300.00-$350.00. I just Googled. I'm sure you can get a 7 or 6S for even less, but this would be a 1 for 1 replacement for what I have now.But note that Messrs. Fine, Howard, and Fine indicated that phone thefts are more likely on board trains than at the turnstile. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 07:52:18 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 07:38:25 2019. Replacement OMNY car would be $5.I don't keep my phone loose on the subway. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 08:08:46 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 17 07:52:18 2019. I do keep my phone lose on the subway so no danger is added from using it for fare payment. |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Mon Jun 17 13:50:17 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 07:38:25 2019. The SE (more or less an updated 5S) was even less ($200 new and unlocked, less if carrier locked), and is small and pocketable. It's easier to hold and not very thief-desirable, they don't fetch as much from a fence. It was recently discontinued, idk if it has a same-size replacement.Phone robbers and politicians who enable them should be UPS'd to China and jailed there at a deep discount, China proved in the '60s that they can handle prisoners by the tens of millions. It's one of the few things I'm fine with exporting to PRC. We would, of course, demand a little special treatment for our sensitive citizens: For good behavior they get their food as Regular or Unleaded. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 14:14:03 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Steamdriven on Mon Jun 17 13:50:17 2019. The SE was not replaced.However, I’m used to the 6/7/8 form factor and that’s what I like. It’s still pocketable most of the time. I don’t like the plus/max size. |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Mon Jun 17 14:29:55 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 14:14:03 2019. Agree about the plus size. have a spare phone of that size (lower tier older model) and it's annoying when carried in a pocket, it slaps your leg. It's going to remain a spare phone only. Apple does some things very well, but the apparent design focus on tweens, teens and 20s only is not one of them. An SE or 6-7-8 non-plus size but 1/10" thicker with much longer battery life is something any adult would prefer, they don't offer it. |
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Posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Tue Jun 18 13:00:07 2019, in response to A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 16 08:53:22 2019. This "feature" may apply to the MTA fare payment app as well. At the Transit Museum event last year about fare collection, the head of fare collection discussed not only the MetroCard implementation but the tap card/app development. I asked whether one would need to open and log into the app each time to use it--which could be a problem with a memory or multitasking challenged (i.e.: old) smartphone; I'd recently had difficulty getting a TicketMaster ticket to load on my phone--he said that it would be running in the background whenever the phone is on and would work without loading the app with each use. I did not ask whether one would have to open the phone though quite possibly that would not be necessary, leading to the same vulnerability. He did think that, given my concerns about app and phone reliability, I may be better off using the smartcard. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 18 13:21:48 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Tue Jun 18 13:00:07 2019. What app? I don’t think they’re ever going to do an app.The tap card has the same security issues, but not necessarily the same reliability issues. |
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Posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Wed Jun 19 16:22:28 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 18 13:21:48 2019. At the museum event last October, Alan Putre, the Executive Director of the MTA’s New Fare Payment Program and Vice President & Chief Revenue Officer at New York City Transit, told us that you will be able to set up an account linked to a debit or credit card and pay for the buses and subways with an e-ticketing app. And, you will be able to have an LIRR or Metro North ticket on it as well. They already have e-ticketing with the MTA eTix app-. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 19 16:51:36 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Wed Jun 19 16:22:28 2019. The current system does not involve the use of an app. An app would be redundant. It sounds like either Mr. Putre explained improperly or you are mistaken. |
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Posted by Strike_Mark on Wed Jun 19 18:17:58 2019, in response to A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 16 08:53:22 2019. On my phone (iPhone 8 Plus), I need to use my fingerprint to unlock Apple Pay to be able to use the phone at an OMNY equipped turnstile. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 20 06:04:46 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Strike_Mark on Wed Jun 19 18:17:58 2019. No, you don't.Read my OP again. |
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Posted by ryanov on Sat Jun 22 00:43:28 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 20 06:04:46 2019. Lose the trash attitude about millennials. Previous generations had it far easier financially than millennials have had, and screwed things up pretty badly for people who came after them. It’s ignorant, makes you look old, and is off topic. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 22 03:06:21 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by ryanov on Sat Jun 22 00:43:28 2019. Baby Boomers were raised by "Depression Babies' and through the 1970's recession and high inflation. Yes, we had it easier, more cradle-to-grave private employment through the 1980's, defined benefit pension plans, cheaper tuition, but also brought up with some sense of frugality, and were not issued credit cards away in college (banks would not issue them to such in the 1970's)- your parent's $50 check mailed to every week or two is how you learned to manage money. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 22 08:22:23 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by ryanov on Sat Jun 22 00:43:28 2019. Thanks! |
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Posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Jun 22 19:04:37 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by ryanov on Sat Jun 22 00:43:28 2019. Millennial have it hard because they are lazy and want to follow their dreams instead of earning a living . White shoe Manhattan law firms paying $200k starting salaries are having a hard time finding law students that are willing to put in the hours to earn the money .Too many art history of humanities majors who do not have the correct skill set for the modern world and took out $200k in college loans . Those who majored in good majors or picked up a trade are doing quite well . Remember the media is so controlled by draft dodging hippies and always want to paint a negative image of free market economy . |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 22 20:34:17 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Jun 22 19:04:37 2019. More boomer bullshit. And that thing about the law firms is total bullshit. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Sat Jun 22 20:34:26 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Jun 22 19:04:37 2019. What a long-winded way to tell us that you don't know anyone under the age of 40. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 22 20:41:49 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by K. Trout on Sat Jun 22 20:34:26 2019. And he sounds a caricature of a grumpy old man. The youngest literal draft dodgers are 65. |
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Posted by ryanov on Sat Jun 22 23:41:02 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 22 03:06:21 2019. Remind me how you feel justified blaming millennials for how they were brought up exactly? Also, it’s their fault that credit cards were being issued on campuses in exchange for free pizza and T-shirts? Whose government allowed that sort of stuff to happen? I guess some millennials must have been somehow passing laws while they were in grade school?Like I said, no need for it. |
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Posted by ryanov on Sat Jun 22 23:46:00 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Jun 22 19:04:37 2019. The world needs art-history majors and other intellectuals. It’s how we have nice things. They’ve always existed, too, unless you think millennials somehow invented a major with the word history literally in it.In vogue these days to piss on academics, I guess, but I’d take one of them over an ignorant old man lecturing me on the value of hard labor at exploitative rates of pay. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jun 23 02:24:06 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by ryanov on Sat Jun 22 23:41:02 2019. Credit card offers ? The government doesn't control the greedy credit card companies did it.How about "just say no" as you would to an offer to buy weed. It is called discipline and responsibility, which they should have learned upon High School graduation. Maybe if they learned some common sense instead of just memorizing for the standardized test, this would not have happened. They could also have taken a course or two in Business Math to learn the impacts of interest compounding instead of deriving pi. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 23 06:09:21 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by ryanov on Sat Jun 22 23:41:02 2019. I, for one, like the easy credit. If you’re responsible, it gives you a headstart on building good credit. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 23 06:11:25 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Joe V on Sun Jun 23 02:24:06 2019. I would say yes to an offer to buy weed.And the best thing to do with a credit card if you have discipline and responsibility is to get the card, use it, and pay it off in full. When schools try to teach more practical math (common core) boomers get up in arms and form political parties opposed to it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 23 06:12:01 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by ryanov on Sat Jun 22 23:46:00 2019. You’re on a roll, man! |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jun 23 06:56:38 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 23 06:12:01 2019. + 100 |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jun 23 16:20:26 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 23 06:11:25 2019. Well, not this Baby Boomer would not be up in arms about that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 23 16:47:17 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Joe V on Sun Jun 23 16:20:26 2019. Excellent. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 24 04:42:47 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 23 16:47:17 2019. Core Curriculum should mean a required course in personal finance and insurance concepts. If that means Calculus or Pre-calc gets postponed to Freshman year in college, so be it. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jun 24 08:05:41 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 23 06:11:25 2019. Why?Math is fun! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jun 24 08:32:01 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 23 06:11:25 2019. Why?Math is fun! |
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Posted by ryanov on Mon Jun 24 20:38:53 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Joe V on Sun Jun 23 02:24:06 2019. They most certainly do, and this stuff is no longer allowed on college campuses.Again, since you seem to be having trouble with this. "Maybe if they learned some common sense instead of memorizing for the standardized test..." OK, genius. Again, please point out which generation thought that this emphasis on testing was a good idea? Please tell me how a first semester freshman is supposed to take "a course or two in business math" before these credit card vultures descend on the campus. Anti-intellectual ignorant trash you're posting. And it's still off-topic. |
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Posted by ryanov on Mon Jun 24 20:39:44 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 24 04:42:47 2019. Want to let us know what millenials had to do with such curriculum choices? |
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Posted by ryanov on Mon Jun 24 20:41:09 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 23 06:12:01 2019. Not exactly a demanding job. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jun 25 13:15:21 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by ryanov on Mon Jun 24 20:38:53 2019. Stop blaming credit card vultures and start accepting responsibility. I suppose you would blame the robo-callers for being taken into scams. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 25 13:42:55 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Joe V on Tue Jun 25 13:15:21 2019. Taking responsibility for what? He never said he was in debt. You, OTOH, seem to blame the ills of society on a single group. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jun 25 14:16:27 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 25 13:42:55 2019. I am saying there are life lessons to be learned that are not core curriculum and not a spoon-fed on a Smartphone app.Blaming curriculum and their parents does not cut it. |
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Posted by Strike_Mark on Wed Jun 26 17:12:23 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 20 06:04:46 2019. That’s just an option and not a default. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 26 20:18:18 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Strike_Mark on Wed Jun 26 17:12:23 2019. I never said it was. |
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Posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Fri Jun 28 11:07:33 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 19 16:51:36 2019. It's what he told us. The MTA eTix app already exists for electronic ticketing on the railroads and could be adapted for use in the new system the same way Google Pay and Apple Pay will work, by linking to an OMNY account to pay fares without having to buy an ONLY card or use a compatible smart debit or credit card. It makes sense. Whether they will do it or not, I don't know, but Putre told us that the new system will take payments via a new MTA smart card (since named the ONNY card), compatible credit and debit cards, or an app. I don't recall him even mentioning general e-payment systems like Google or Apple, though he might have. It's true that the pilot program does not use an app, but it doesn't use the OMNY card yet either. |
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Posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Fri Jun 28 11:14:43 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Fri Jun 28 11:07:33 2019. Last Week's AM NewYork article mentioned a future app. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 28 11:38:52 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Fri Jun 28 11:14:43 2019. I guess that explains the camera in the OMNY reader, but I just thought it was for future single ride tickets using barcodes instead of mag stripes (cheaper). An app seems redundant but if they do use bar codes for single rides, is probably cheap to implement. |
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Posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Fri Jun 28 19:35:32 2019, in response to Re: A cool OMNY feature, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 28 11:38:52 2019. I don't think it will use a camera or a barcode scanner for the app. It will operate on the same Near Field Communication signal from the phone as Google Pay and Apple Pay. I asked Putre about this because I had recently had difficulty pulling up a Ticketmaster ticket on my phone to be scanned to get into a ballgame. He said that the fare payment app, once installed and the account set up, would be running in the background and would not have to be opened, let alone scanned, to work. That circles back to the beginning of this thread and the issue of stolen phones. If you don't have to unlock your screen with your password/PIN/pattern/fingerprint, let alone open the app and possible, a stolen phone will allow the thief to use the account without having to unlock the screen until the phone is reported stolen and the account suspended. I have the additional concern that the MTA app running in the background (along with a bunch of other apps that are designed to run in the background even though they are needed only occasionally) will take up some memory and use some battery life. Perhaps the camera on the OMNY reader will allow for the current single-ride paper magnetic strip MetroCard to be replaced by a single ride cardboard OMNY card with a barcode or a QR code, though I have heard not heard anything about such a payment method. |
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