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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 28 19:26:32 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 08:28:03 2016.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 28 19:28:39 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 14:22:14 2016.

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And I appreciate when you're not an anti-Semitic racist!

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 28 19:28:44 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 17:34:58 2016.

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And I appreciate when you're not an anti-Semitic racist!

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 28 20:10:56 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by shiznit1987 on Thu Jul 28 19:05:17 2016.

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My thing is the city needs to shift away from the shelter system and start putting people (especially families) in actual HOUSING

So they can burn it down?

There is no right to housing. Don't see it in the Bill of Rights.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jul 28 21:52:07 2016, in response to NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 26 11:18:59 2016.

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San Francisco and Seattle have it a lot worse.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 22:06:29 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 28 19:26:12 2016.

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Eh...
You are an ass,and we remind you about it continuously,yet it does nothing to improve YOU.
A One trick dog.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 22:14:47 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 28 22:06:29 2016.

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All false! LOL! You so dumb, Edwards!


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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 28 22:16:14 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 22:14:47 2016.

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Racist post.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 03:26:53 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 22:14:47 2016.

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You can Whine FALSE all day everyday until the Sun burns out...still wont make a difference,or change one single thing.

You are a verified Asshole...and You've known it since you were able to drink beer and scratch your groin at same time at age 2.

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Trump Commits Treason

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 29 07:19:08 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 08:27:23 2016.

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Many Americans do not have enough in savings or other safety net measures to weather the loss of a job. Unemployment insurance goes only so far, and when the money runs out and you've been unable to find a new job, you're out on the street. That's a fact. As I have told you before, when a landlord wants you out, they can put you out any time they wish. All they have to do is make up a story about how their tenants are "selling drugs" in their property. Nuisance abatement laws help landlords do it.. So if you've lost a job, and can't pay the rent, your landlord doesn't necessarily have to go through housing court to evict you. He can dial three digits and put your ass out TODAY.

Of course, you won't believe it because in your privileged, wealthy world, you don't think it can ever happen to YOU.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 29 07:19:36 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 08:27:23 2016.

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Many Americans do not have enough in savings or other safety net measures to weather the loss of a job. Unemployment insurance goes only so far, and when the money runs out and you've been unable to find a new job, you're out on the street. That's a fact. As I have told you before, when a landlord wants you out, they can put you out any time they wish. All they have to do is make up a story about how their tenants are "selling drugs" in their property. Nuisance abatement laws help landlords do it.. So if you've lost a job, and can't pay the rent, your landlord doesn't necessarily have to go through housing court to evict you. He can dial three digits and put your ass out TODAY.

Of course, you won't believe it because in your privileged, wealthy world, you don't think it can ever happen to YOU.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 29 07:44:41 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jul 28 21:52:07 2016.

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De Commieo is working on catching up.

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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Jul 29 09:46:09 2016, in response to Trump Commits Treason, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 29 07:19:08 2016.

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wrong board Hombre !!


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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 29 09:51:39 2016, in response to Trump Commits Treason, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 29 07:19:08 2016.

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As an impartial journalist I assume that you know the difference between subchat and otchat, don't you, Nate? Then why are you so stupid?

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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 10:01:45 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Jul 29 09:46:09 2016.

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No, his comment was appropriate to the thread, which he did not start. Only his title is screwed up.



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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by brightonr68 on Fri Jul 29 11:08:37 2016, in response to Trump Commits Treason, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 29 07:19:08 2016.

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That is in large part to policies that bill Clinton implemented during his presidency and Hillary was on the "blue ribbon panel" that policy is the North American free trade agreement. You can find multiple videos of Hillary saying that it is great for the American people. It has been great for American companies who moved jobs to Mexico and Central America. It KILLED ANY manufacturing and farming PUERTO RICO because you can just make the stuff in the DR at half the cost.
The biggest problem with NAFTA is that it does not require countries in the free trade zone to follow the same environmental and worker safety standard as US manufactures,

Another short sited ignorant move by the Clintons. Push ever increasing environmental regulations on American companies while other free trade members don't have to comply

Hillary is smart, she got donations to the Clinton foundation from these same nations and companies>

Corrupt to the core!!!!

Oh on the homelessness front. There are many farm jobs unfilled across the country with dirt cheap housing. Anyone who was irresponcible enough not to work hard in school learning thier ABC's or learning a trade it is thier own fault. Now Retired, I saw chikdren (parents responcible) who came to school day after day without doing HW or studing who had no work ethic."

My dad (may he rest in peace) from the day i got my first job made me put away 20% of what I earned. He told me you may have to move where the jobs are and living is priced right. Building more and more "affordable housing for people who will never have the ability to pay full price due to lack of skill and work ethic just makes no sense. It makes everyone else pay thier way putting more people at risk of not being able to save money for a rainy day.

The progressive platform is ment to control people economically leading to angry people who barley can support themselves leading to low self esteme. Many people are happier when they more away from nyc.

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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 29 12:17:47 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by brightonr68 on Fri Jul 29 11:08:37 2016.

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"Hard work" is a myth. Some people are simply "not college material" and will not do well studying for a learned occupation.

I'm not saying that hard work is useless completely, but it, by itself, is useless. You need other things AND hard work.

I agree with you about affordable housing but disagree about putting stuff away. That is a good idea if you can afford luxuries, and thus putting away 20% means foregoing luxuries, but some people simply do not earn enough to do that.

I disagree about free trade. Free trade increases prosperity and wealth.

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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 29 12:18:26 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 10:01:45 2016.

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And yet he won't do anything about it.

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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by Dave on Fri Jul 29 12:21:13 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by brightonr68 on Fri Jul 29 11:08:37 2016.

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Wrong forum, genius.

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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:18:43 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by brightonr68 on Fri Jul 29 11:08:37 2016.

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I fully agree people should be responsible for themselves.
But what happens when that isnt the case?
What do you do with the elderly,who had,and have a hard time making ends meet?
What happens to the disabled,who cannot work?
What happens to the folks who worked all of their lives,and still come up short?
What happens to those who weren't able to put away for a,rainy day...or save..living from pay check to pay check?
What happens to those who are priced out or forced out by ridiculous high rents?

Sure..you May have SOME of the Reasons why things happen to folks...but Ive yet to see a way to Solve the problem for those who fall through the cracks.

Ive Worked with these people...not to give a hand Out..but a leg Up on a head start so THEY CAN BE SELF SUFFICIENT.
No ammount of could of,or should haves will do.Actions speak louder that any words.

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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 29 13:24:21 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by Dave on Fri Jul 29 12:21:13 2016.

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It's called thread drift. And the thread did not even drift that far. But JayZeeBMT just won't listen about his shitty web browser.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jul 29 18:47:40 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by shiznit1987 on Wed Jul 27 21:56:38 2016.

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Mentally,there is something Seriously wrong with the homeless,to be comfortable with being undomiciled.

I think a lot has to do with the sheer cost of a place to live. You can feed yourself on less than $30 a day, even in midtown, but an apartment would need at least another $30 a day, and it won't be near where the action is (Penn Station), which means you also have to throw in daily train fare (not to mention utilties). That's assuming the landlord will even rent to you. Being homeless is dangerous, but in some ways, less complicated.

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Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jul 29 18:52:23 2016, in response to Re: NYP homeless encampments worry and anger passengers, posted by shiznit1987 on Thu Jul 28 19:05:17 2016.

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My thing is the city needs to shift away from the shelter system and start putting people (especially families) in actual HOUSING.

NIMBYs are going to stop it, maybe even in the cases where the old housing projects are still standing and need to be rehabbed. Then there is the need for money to create the subsidized mhousing and the additional security needs to prevent them from becoming hell holes.

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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jul 29 18:59:19 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 29 13:18:43 2016.

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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by Steamdriven on Fri Jul 29 20:30:07 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by brightonr68 on Fri Jul 29 11:08:37 2016.

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"Anyone who was irresponcible enough not to work hard in school learning thier ABC's or learning a trade it is thier own fault."

As a broad generality this sentiment is true, but many people did not have parents you would recognize as parents. Some are druggies who bring their kids into the drug lifestyle, others are spiteful failures who don't want their kids to do better than they. Not a few divorced or single mothers work to weaken/destroy their male children, because the boy reminds them of a man they hold an unending grudge against.
Men and women each do evil things, only in different ways.

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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 20:33:56 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by Steamdriven on Fri Jul 29 20:30:07 2016.

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And lots of parents mean well but just don't have the energy and the spirit to bring their kids up optimally. If nothing else, they're too busy working 70 hours a week at 2 or 3 jobs to pay for the rent and the groceries.




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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 31 18:45:45 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 20:33:56 2016.

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My mother was born and raised on the lower east side of Manhattan when most of the children had immigrant parents who had a poor command of the English language and couldn’t significantly help their children with their homework or even see to it that the homework was done, yet those individuals did get their assignments done, graduated and many went on to be rather successful!

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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jul 31 18:50:16 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by randyo on Sun Jul 31 18:45:45 2016.

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I rather suspect said parents were in fact VERY encouraging of educational attainment by the children. When the kids were small, I made regular trips to the library or local bookstores w/ them as well as taking them on BART, SF Muni streetcars, and of course steam excursions. (part of a complete education)

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