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Re: TMNY 990 is current |
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Posted by Evan on Sat Dec 26 16:57:56 2015, in response to The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Fri Dec 25 22:25:57 2015. TMNY is up-to-date on its 990 filings. You can verify this by going to irs.gov on the 990 lookup page for small organizations and type in EIN 116047858.https://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Search-for-Forms-990-N-Filed-by-Small-Tax-Exempt-Organizations |
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Re: The problem with TMNY |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 16:58:14 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by murray1575 on Sat Dec 26 16:56:15 2015. Amen. |
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Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 16:58:39 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by R2Chinatown on Sat Dec 26 16:47:07 2015. Well ... as long as we're on this topic, what are YOUR plans? |
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Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces) |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sat Dec 26 17:07:46 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 16:58:39 2015. I don't know yet. I've not got the vast talent that you claim to have. But I asked you first. |
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Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 17:09:16 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by R2Chinatown on Sat Dec 26 17:07:46 2015. Them's weasel words, partner. :)Positions are even available as wheel chocks, no special skills required. |
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Re: The problem with TMNY |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 17:17:26 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Dec 26 16:32:17 2015. Aha, they can do a postcard filing because their gross receipts are below 50K each year starting in 2010. Good news and bad news simultaneously I guess postcard filings don't appear on Guidestar.So if they can really start raising more money they have a chance. But not if they keep on being eligible for a postcard filing. :( |
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Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY |
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Posted by Evan on Sat Dec 26 17:42:06 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 21:46:56 2015. How can you possibly know that there is an implied deceit, regarding a proposal never acted upon? In the life of any organization, there are lots of proposals that are floated but not acted upon. This particular one, about a possible move the Bush Terminal, I have never heard of. BHRA stored PCCs there that were eventually scrapped; are you possibly confusing us with BHRA? |
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Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces) |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Dec 26 17:47:03 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 17:09:16 2015. And you still have not answered my question. Sounds like thou art the weasel. I recall that you can make them go but stopping - not so much. |
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Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Dec 26 18:16:38 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by Evan on Sat Dec 26 17:42:06 2015. bhra stored the cars at the Brooklyn navy yard. |
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Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY |
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Posted by Evan on Sat Dec 26 18:29:46 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Dec 26 18:16:38 2015. I stand corrected on that point, thanks. |
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Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces |
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Posted by ren on Sat Dec 26 18:55:48 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by CJ on Fri Dec 25 22:23:27 2015. same 2 u |
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Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY |
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Posted by ren on Sat Dec 26 19:00:36 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by Evan on Sat Dec 26 18:29:46 2015. Another volunteer told me that. Not from one of the McGinty bunch. He also said that Mike Hanna was really more into steam and that Hanna was more of a visitor to the steam RR museums, like Catskills, IIRC. |
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Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces) |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Dec 26 19:15:24 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 23:53:14 2015. Nice topics to discuss on Christmas Day! Spineless wimps afraid to settle this man-to-man! |
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Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 20:21:42 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Dec 26 17:47:03 2015. And there's why I responded the way I did. Knew I could count on you. |
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Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sat Dec 26 20:56:50 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 22:14:46 2015. Seems to me that there is a difference of opinion on how the museum should be managed. You have your opinion and they have theirs. They are the ones in power and you are not. They asked you to leave & you left. So just let it go. You aren't going to be invited back because you get in their face. Time to move on. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Dec 26 21:15:42 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by R2Chinatown on Sat Dec 26 20:56:50 2015. What pisses me off is that they seldom post here, yet wait till Dec 25th to go at each other! |
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Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces) |
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Posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Sat Dec 26 21:32:35 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 16:35:45 2015. Greetings SelkirkTMO and R2China Town:I would be honored and delighted for the both of you to join us in our volunteer effort at the TMNY.We are quite serious about bringing change to a museum that badly needs it.We have several projects in the works and will be ramping up our activities come Spring,2016.I would like for the both of you to see for yourselves just what is going on at the museum! For anyone else here who is serious about joining our all volunteer effort you too are welcome to join in to help us bring this museum to a place worth visiting again and again.For those that doubt this statement,you will have to just watch and see.Change is coming,and soon... |
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Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces) |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Dec 26 21:55:17 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Sat Dec 26 21:32:35 2015. If you can get those two to work together, I'd open my wallet to see that. |
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Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces) |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Dec 26 21:57:55 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by randyo on Sat Dec 26 15:08:14 2015. AMEN!!! |
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Re: The problem with TMNY |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 26 23:22:58 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 25 23:00:52 2015. Some understandings need to be tossed in here for the benefit of those who don't understand the realities of Ulster county. Take it for what it's worth.Huh? Your post had nothing to do with AlM's post about a lack of filing. |
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Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY |
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Posted by The silence on Sat Dec 26 23:38:13 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 19:13:48 2015. Unless you gave them to the museum as a loan (and can prove it), or gave them while dying but got better, you have given up all right to them, as the law would consider them gifts. You can ask for a gift back all you want, but whomever you gave the gift are under no obligation to give the gift back to you, or for free for that matter.It's New York contract law. |
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Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces |
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Posted by The Silence on Sat Dec 26 23:45:00 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by ren on Fri Dec 25 22:18:49 2015. There is but one Big Boy
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Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 23:52:19 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Dec 26 21:55:17 2015. So would I! :) |
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Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces) |
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Posted by The Silence on Sat Dec 26 23:59:22 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by arli3835 on Fri Dec 25 22:35:03 2015. Both the Transit Museum and BERA are about 100 miles from Kingston. that idea doesn't make any sense. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 27 00:06:56 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 26 23:22:58 2015. Neither did yours. But then that isn't news. |
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Posted by CJ on Sun Dec 27 00:22:34 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by The Silence on Sat Dec 26 23:45:00 2015. And 4014 is coming back, contrary to what ren wants to believe. :) |
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Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces |
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Posted by ren on Sun Dec 27 00:59:08 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by CJ on Sun Dec 27 00:22:34 2015. Actually, I had in mind the yellow Whitcomb at TMNY. I am not familiar with the Big Boy, tell me about it? Are they bringing that to TMNY? What is this locos history? |
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Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces |
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Posted by TurboThePunk on Sun Dec 27 01:02:21 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by ren on Sun Dec 27 00:59:08 2015. Deez nuts. |
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Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Dec 27 01:09:01 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by ren on Thu Dec 24 03:44:05 2015. Sounds like you are.kinda sorta bitter about a few things,brah.See,what You are doing is called SOUR GRAPES...You Use to do your thing there.,but for some reason,they wont have you anymore. Why beef about something you have mo control over,or anything to do with? You are,in a sense,beating a dead horse for no reason. Let it go cause NOTHING good will come of it. |
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Posted by arli3835 on Sun Dec 27 01:24:50 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 25 23:00:52 2015. How much more percentage of volunteer effort do you think would be required to bring the collection back to somewhat of an acceptable state there? |
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Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces) |
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Posted by arli3835 on Sun Dec 27 01:27:26 2015, in response to Re: The Problem with Misinformation (Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces), posted by The Silence on Sat Dec 26 23:59:22 2015. Their main source of attendance is still from the NYC area. |
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Re: The problem with TMNY |
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Posted by arli3835 on Sun Dec 27 01:29:41 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by murray1575 on Sat Dec 26 16:56:15 2015. Given the fact that TMNY is in a poor location, why are they fighting so hard to keep the collection there, like salmon swimming upstream?If the location is a problem, MOVE the collection to where it won't be. Stop trying to make gold out of flour. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 27 01:45:39 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by arli3835 on Sun Dec 27 01:24:50 2015. I'd actually have to look things over to see their current condition, but even at museums with a larger number of members and better funding, they still can't keep up with all the work it takes just to maintain what they have, much less bring it up to good state of repair. Even Brooklyn is hard-pressed there as well.It would be a major job any way you slice it. The good news is that it looks like more people are seeing the point of doing it given all the efforts we've seen here this year so far. But I really have no idea just how much is going to be needed at this point in time. |
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Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY |
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Posted by WillD on Sun Dec 27 01:59:12 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 26 13:49:37 2015. Finally, something in this thread I can agree with. |
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Posted by ren on Sun Dec 27 02:30:08 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by Edwards! on Sun Dec 27 01:09:01 2015. There will be legal consequences to these libelous statements publicly shaming me as a thief and a liar. I have irrefutable evidence which demonstrates both tortfeasors possessed knowledge that I did not steal (much less was caught stealing), that all of my actions were authorized by a museum superior, and that my statements concerning a trade-out of TMNY's Low-V were not lies but in fact substantiated by members of the volunteering group. |
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Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 27 02:35:50 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by ren on Sun Dec 27 02:30:08 2015. If this is all true, do you have any idea of how much damage you've done to that case by posting that all here, rather than pursuing proper legal means through the proper channels? You dun goofed if that's the case. Seriously. |
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Posted by ren on Sun Dec 27 02:47:21 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 27 02:35:50 2015. No, I only responded in my defense to the accusations. That I defended myself after it spilled out in no way vitiates liability. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 27 03:04:16 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by ren on Sun Dec 27 02:47:21 2015. You might want to discuss that with an attorney. I'm only offering advice, it's your choice. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 27 05:56:46 2015, in response to The problem with TMNY, posted by arli3835 on Fri Dec 25 21:25:43 2015. For TMNY, the main issue is the location. Kingston, NY isn't exactly the easiest place to reach from NYC via public transit, and then you need to figure out how to actually get to the museum. While a relatively easy drive, the most obvious demographic (NYC area railfans) is less likely to own a car than even the average NYC resident.That said, the fact that the fall foliage train this year left from Albany completely sold out with no advertising speaks volumes about the potential to draw a crowd. The Amtrak station parking lots were completely full, possibly for the first time ever. If TMNY had a route of reasonable length with running equipment like BERA, its ability to draw a crowd from the *north* would be significantly enhanced. |
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Posted by GaMeRa on Sun Dec 27 06:22:26 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Dec 27 03:04:16 2015. It's too bad the museum's dirty laundry was broadcast on here for all to read. It is not helping if potential donors or supporters are reading all this. A moderator should step up and shut this discussion down. |
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Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Dec 27 07:23:43 2015, in response to Re: To McGinty, Pagan, and Garces, posted by ren on Sun Dec 27 00:59:08 2015. Google is your friend. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 27 10:41:35 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 27 05:56:46 2015. This is an issue for all trolley and railroad museums all over the country - are we better off with fewer but better financed museums, and have the small outfits, who some regard as glorified junkyards, surrender the sovereignty to the larger or better financed ones?BR&W in Ringoes verses NH&I in New Hope come to mind. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Dec 27 11:26:27 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by GaMeRa on Sun Dec 27 06:22:26 2015. Who are the moderators on this board? |
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Re: The problem with TMNY |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 27 13:20:22 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by murray1575 on Sat Dec 26 16:56:15 2015. FALSE!First, Kingston is a city, not a town or village, but that is a minor semantic issue. The main reason for the decline of upstate cities like Kingston is moving industry from here to Southern “right-to-work” mooch states and eventually to China. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sun Dec 27 13:55:40 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Dec 27 11:26:27 2015. There is no moderators on this forum. :( |
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Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 27 14:06:30 2015, in response to Re: PATH 143 arrives at TMNY, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Dec 26 03:25:54 2015. Do we know where if anywhere that car is ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 27 14:39:10 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 27 13:20:22 2015. Kigston being a dump or hard to get to does not explain TMNY's limited resources.Most good and famous rail museums are also hard to get to. Scranton (also a dump), Kennebunkport, Warehouse Point, Strasburg, and Union, Illinois are all auto-dependent. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Dec 27 14:46:19 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 27 14:39:10 2015. What notable things does TMNY have that, say, NYTM doesn't have? TMNY has to have that SOMETHING that will draw people there. |
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Re: The problem with TMNY |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 27 14:56:26 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by 3-9 on Sun Dec 27 14:46:19 2015. Several NYC trolley cars come to mind.BERA got a hell of an equipment hit from Sandy too. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Dec 27 15:03:19 2015, in response to Re: The problem with TMNY, posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 27 14:56:26 2015. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. |
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