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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 15:35:44 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 17 15:04:59 2015.

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I think that the comment about ConEd power was speculation. I posted some other speculation which I consider more likely.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 17 15:36:21 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 13:16:02 2015.

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First of all 46% is significant, but it is not a majority. So you haven't proved that a majority can be wrong in their beliefs.

Second, you didn't state that the creation study proves I am wrong most of the time, what you stated was that I was wrong again.

"Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 19:14:17 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 17:29:09 2015.

Almost Half the people. Sorry.

Here's one example. So you're wrong again. What else is new? "

I never admitted to being wrong in spite of what this and other studies say. You are making the claim that these studies are correct so the burden is on you to show they are correct by showing they all weren't funded by groups trying to prove creation as a fact such as religious groups. If you can show that these studies were performed by credible impartial sources, then I will accept the fact the number is between 40 and 50 percent.

The fact is that Gallup and other polling organizations do not just do these studies just for the heck of it. They cost money and someone is commissioning them and most likely it is a group or groups with a vested interest in proving them belief in creationism is widespread.

And I never said that posting this study was about me. You are just making things up. You are either delusional or senile. You don't have to be old to be senile. And what do you have against old people anyway? There is nothing to be ashamed about in getting old. You may get there someday if you are lucky. Or perhaps you may prefer to die young.


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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 17 15:38:36 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 17 14:37:41 2015.

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Where did I ask if he changed his position?

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 17 15:44:32 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 17 14:55:15 2015.

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You said:

"The point was, and is, that this type of sloppiness is dangerous, and BB does it often."

So what sloppiness are you referring to if not the use of the definite article instead of the indefinite article?

If that is what you were referring to, you are indeed making a mountain out of nothing because you are not even calling it an error. So exactly what is dangerous about my writing? And be specific. Accusing me of stating incorrect facts is not specific. (Here comes the elevator story again. I just feel it.)

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 17 15:48:36 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 15:25:36 2015.

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But the official cause of death for Ms. Kilgallen is still inconclusive. The cause is listed as "likely" and likely implies some doubt. So the medical examiner hasn't really resolved anything. So the possibility of some type of coverup or conspiracy still exists. I am not saying there was one, just that the possibility can't be dismissed.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 17 15:49:21 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 17 14:53:50 2015.

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Bullshit.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 17 15:51:08 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 17 14:40:17 2015.

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You would because you do it all the time.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 15:52:18 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 17 15:36:21 2015.

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First of all 46% is significant, but it is not a majority. So you haven't proved that a majority can be wrong in their beliefs.

Which is not something that I set out to prove, so that’s irrelevant.

The Gallup Organization is a reliable pollster. Are you now impugning them? And you complain that people don’t trust you. Why should we trust you when you don’t trust other, way more reliable people and groups? You are clearly a hypocrite.

And as I already pointed out, this isn’t the only study, there are many and they all have similar numbers. Or is that all another conspiracy?

This whole “old and senile” thing started because of your dismissive attitude towards R36, making light of his apparent youth, so I turned it around on you and it seems to work.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 15:56:08 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 17 15:48:36 2015.

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Possibilities do not imply factuality. I’m not going to believe in remote possibilities just because they are even remotely possible. I also don’t believe in supernatural explanations for unexplained phenomena.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 15:57:23 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 17 15:49:21 2015.

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No, exactly true. If you were open minded, the thread would have been 3 posts deep:

You: There is no elevator at Atlantic Avenue
Someone else: Yes there is.
You: Really? I’ll look the next time I’m there.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 17 16:01:57 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 13:20:06 2015.

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Your first statement is incorrect.

Many have not concluded my stories are implausible. A few have and they can be counted on the fingers of one hand. And they do that without any basis such as Terrapin accusing me of lying about being the project manager for the R32 by saying "someone tell me it isn't true. (I was also project manager or the R42).

Then when he was proven wrong, he tries to diminish the importance of the term "project manager" saying it doesn't have much responsibility when that conclusion is blatantly incorrect.

So I take it quite seriously when someone like Terrapin tries to consistently destroy my credibility and when someone steps forward to agree with him. That doesn't make me thin skinned.

The fact is most here respect my knowledge, experience, and credibility. Guess you never heard the term the silent majority. But according to you it is quite plausible for the majority to be wrong.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 17 16:06:27 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 17 14:10:43 2015.

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All home phones today require Con Ed Power. During Superstorm Sandy if your phone wasn't working, all you had to do was connect an old rotary phone and it worked fine unless your phone was powered by Cable or Fios.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 16:09:19 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 17 16:06:27 2015.

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All home phones today require Con Ed Power.

This is clearly false and in any event is contradicted by your own next sentence!

all you had to do was connect an old rotary phone

False! It need not be a rotary phone. Plenty of cheap touch-tone phones to be had which work purely on the power of the landline. You can find them in any store that sells that kind of thing. Many of these even have speakerphones, a hold function with music, and programmable speed dial buttons all without outside power.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Tue Nov 17 16:13:16 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 17 16:06:27 2015.

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What are you talking about? If you still have POTS in your home, a new phone like this one will work fine without Con Ed power.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 17 16:28:45 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 15:52:18 2015.

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The Gallup Organization is a reliable pollster.

At least since 1948. They were a Dewey predicter. :)



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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 17 16:30:48 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 16:09:19 2015.

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IAWTP.

Some phones have optional power for a light. But a single line phone that isn't cordless usually doesn't need Con Ed power.



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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 17 16:31:50 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Tue Nov 17 16:13:16 2015.

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POTS

Did you work for a telco at some point? That's not a commonly used acronym otherwise.



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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 17 17:04:13 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 17 16:30:48 2015.

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Correct. I keep one of those for just such contingencies.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 17 17:06:36 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Tue Nov 17 16:13:16 2015.

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Yes. If your phone does not have a plug to be plugged into an electrical outlet, it will work during blackouts if the phone lines are operating.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 17 17:07:30 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 17 16:28:45 2015.

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So was everyone else!

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by murray1575 on Tue Nov 17 17:18:18 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 17 14:10:43 2015.

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What may have happened is the local exchanges were overloaded due to too many people making calls at the same time. In the 1960's there were many central office switches in New York that had been originally installed as far back as 1930 and in some cases even earlier (PEnsylvania 6-5000 dates back to before 1920). They didn't have anywhere near the traffic capacity of the modern digital switches used today. By the late 1960's in some areas it wasn't uncommon to wait as long as 30-45 seconds for dial tone during peak calling periods even when the power situation was normal.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 17:33:01 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by murray1575 on Tue Nov 17 17:18:18 2015.

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Makes sense. Thanks for a plausible and likely accurate explanation free of bullshit.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 17:57:49 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 17 14:10:43 2015.

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I worked for Long Lines for a while. Many CO's in the city were still electromechanical frames before 5ESS replaced them all. Back in those days, the relays ate humongous amounts of power and in the event of a power failure, the "battery room" took over until generators could be cranked up. Running purely on battery, the average central office was good for about 4 hours on batteries before it all went dark.

Since PSC required battery and dialtone, and the duration of the event was unknown, engineers shedded whatever loads they could to preserve the residential services. Pay phones weren't subject to the same regulations and so they were the first to have their switches cut off.

Here's a picture of what a single crosspoint looked like in miniature - the original frames in a CO could be three stories high:



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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 18:04:00 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by murray1575 on Tue Nov 17 17:18:18 2015.

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Because phones were used on a sparse basis, the "call concentration" systems to the network would often provide a 50:1 ratio. In other words each call concentrator (line finder) could serve 50 customers with one connection at a time. In a central office with large numbers of subscribers, the line finder would serve first come, first serve and once saturated, you'd get a busy signal.

Heavy volume meant lots of busy signals.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 17 19:06:08 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 17:57:49 2015.

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Love that caption at the bottom - "requires 7 digit dialing."

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 19:16:59 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 17 19:06:08 2015.

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Big magic at the time! :)

Wouldn't complete a call without it. Heh.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 17 19:19:17 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 17:57:49 2015.

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5ESS? New stuff. My aunt was on the team that wrote the code for the #1ESS (1960s).



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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 19:20:43 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 17 19:19:17 2015.

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Heh. #1 switches were among the last to go. :)

#1's were the switches to long lines, #5's were local exchanges.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 17 19:30:25 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 19:20:43 2015.

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#1ESSs were local switches too. They still had physical electrical contacts. #5ESS only got introduced 15 years later.





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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 19:39:04 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 17 19:30:25 2015.

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I should clarify then ... the #1's had capacity in excess of 10,000 pairs as opposed to the 5's which could only service around 1,000 pairs. Since mother was cheap, as 5's were deployed, many of the older electropneumatic class 1 CO's were retired, the 1's moved out there replacing them.

The #1's were the arnines of AT&T, some still serve. :)

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Nov 17 22:54:34 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 17 13:16:17 2015.

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Regular phone service was never out completely, but saying it was "unaffected" may be an exaggeration. Mainly, I think the lines were just overloaded from everyone trying to call at the same time to find or to give someone information on what was happening. I remember picking up the phone and not getting a dial tone. But for whatever reason, I left the receiver off the hook, and when I came back a few minutes later, there was a dial tone.

Pay phones then gave you a dial tone only after you inserted a dime. If someone inserted a dime in a pay phone and didn't get a dial tone, he would assume that the phone was not working. Maybe they were actually working the same way as the regular phones.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 17 23:41:23 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 17 19:30:25 2015.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Nov 17 23:56:42 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 10:52:13 2015.

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She is reported to have said just before her death that she was going to "blow the lid off" the JFK killing. Maybe she really did have information that would have exposed a conspiracy to kill JFK, and was about to publish it. Why are you so certain there wasn't one? E. Howard Hunt confessed to his son St. John Hunt that he was part of just such a conspiracy. You are certain that he was lying?

That the government does, on occasion, blatantly lie to the public is not theory but established fact. Consider President Eisenhower's initial public statements regarding the U2 incident in 1960: he claimed that the plane was engaged only in weather research, unaware that the plane had been recovered with most of its equipment intact and the pilot captured alive. If the pilot had died and the plane been completely destroyed, as Eisenhower expected, might the official story still be that the U2 was for weather research, and would those who claimed otherwise be derided as "conspiracy theorists"? BTW, the CIA director at the time, Allen Dulles, was a member of the Warren Commission.


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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 18 00:30:14 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Nov 17 23:56:42 2015.

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E. Howard Hunt was a convicted liar. Why should I believe him and not Earl Warren?

So, what exactly was the US trying to hide from the USSR by lying about the Kennedy assassination? Since you consider the U-2 incident analogous.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 11:25:05 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 15:56:08 2015.

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All I can say to that is that we don't know the reasons for everything that happens in this worlld and to think that there couldn't be explanations for phenomena we don't understand is naive if that is the correct word. The reason I come to that conclusion is that while I woudn't consider myself psychic in the least, I have had about a half dozen dreams in my life that have remarkably and unexplainable come true. One was a friend committing suicide five days before he did and his mother calling me to tell me he had a heart attack and in reality spoke the same sentence word for word. It was the only time she ever had phoned me.

Another was meeting someone at a high school reunion. Six months prior to the event he spoke the exact same words as in the dream. And this was someone I barely knew in high school. When I woke up, I had to rack my brains to figure out if such a person ever really existed because I barely remembered him. And there were several other predictive dreams where what happened wasn't exactly what happened but similarly close to it.

I don't really believe in pre-determination, but I can't think of any possible rationale explanation of how dreams could come so close to reality. There also was a situation when my sister had a dream the night before that I was mugged and described the events so realistically I thought she was putting me on and actually witnessed the event.
You may not call it "supernatural explanations" but what would you call them other than coincidences which I could believe can happen once, but not on so many occasions. There has to be another explanation other than I am old and senile and manufactured all of these events in my brain which is what I expect you to say. But you know what? If you don't believe me, I really don't care.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 11:36:45 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 15:52:18 2015.

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I didn't say Gallup wasn't reliable. I said you must always know who sponsored the study because that is important. Any pollster knows what his client wants because they want future jobs from them. They coud have conducted the same study several different ways and released the version that they believed most satisfied the client. Technically, they aren't doing anything wrong since they are publishing what they found without any distortion. And they also make honest mistakes sometimes. The science isn't perfect.

Now you are changing what you said earlier regarding R36. Now you say he is apparently a youth. Prior you gave a dissertation regarding median age saying chances are that he was born after the 1965 blackout. If he was born in 1965, that would make him fifty and certainly not a youth. Be consistent.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 11:39:38 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Nov 17 22:54:34 2015.

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Of course since phone lines were overloaded, they were "affected". I wasn't looking at it that way. Your explanation regarding pay phones also is rationale. I am curious however, if Con Ed was in anyway involved with pay phones.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 11:41:31 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 15:57:23 2015.

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Maybe I reacted the way I did because much of the conversation was with Terrapin and his accusatory insulting language so intended not to believe him.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by pd11604 on Wed Nov 18 11:47:51 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 17:57:49 2015.

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ah...the Strowger Switch

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 12:41:25 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 11:25:05 2015.

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Wow. You're really open to sharing, aren't you? Can I have $5000?

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 12:45:43 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 11:36:45 2015.

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If any of those "ways" that Gallup did the poll would create a biased conclusion and that one was chosen to be released, then it would be obvious from the study methodology. So they wouldn't do that.

And please explain how he's not being consistent about R36. Many of us know him so we know approximately how old he is.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 12:47:17 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 17 14:53:50 2015.

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Wow, I made a lot of autocorrect mistakes in that post. I apologize.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 12:49:55 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 11:41:31 2015.

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No matter my language, when have I ever seriously lied to you about a serious factual matter, such that you would then tend to not believe what I tell you?

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Nov 18 13:03:05 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 11:41:31 2015.

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Maybe I reacted the way I did because much of the conversation was with Terrapin and his accusatory insulting language so intended not to believe him.
Whoa, I just looked up what I believe is the thread in question and it's even better than I remembered. I wasn't the one who first corrected you. Someone else was. And you went all postal on his a** for no good reason! You had ZERO justification AFAICT. And even when you conceded that maybe there's an elevator, you continued with all kinds of excuses, and you AFAICT, never apologized for not believing us and you also never apologized for how you behaved in response to the clear-as-day facts we were telling you.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 18 13:09:20 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 11:25:05 2015.

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All I can say to that is that we don't know the reasons for everything that happens in this worlld and to think that there couldn't be explanations for phenomena we don't understand is naive if that is the correct word.

First, that’s not the correct word and second, I never said that there “couldn’t be explanations for phenomena we don’t understand.” Of course there are explanations! We just don’t know all of them. But I’m not going to make stuff up, I’ll just wait until it is actually explained.

The reason I come to that conclusion is that while I woudn't consider myself psychic. . .

Sorry, but that’s inadequate. Psychic phenomena are complete and utter bullshit. There are reasonable and non-supernatural explanations for those things.

And they are:

You never had a dream, you just thought you did after the fact, OR you did have such a dream, but there is no fucking way you remember the exact conversation from the dream, and then you misremembered the details in order to fit your narrative because you are amenable to such beliefs.

Coincidences can happen on many occasions. Why can’t they?

If you don't believe me, I really don't care.

So you don’t care about reality.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 18 13:22:45 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 11:36:45 2015.

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The logic in your second paragraph is hilariously wrong.

The world didn't end after 1965. Someone born 5 minutes ago is both not 50 and is obviously born after 1965.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator

Posted by northshore on Wed Nov 18 15:58:15 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Nov 18 13:03:05 2015.

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Did Dorothy Kilgallen used to ride on the Atlantic Avenue elevator? I rode on it but I never saw her there.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 18 16:00:12 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by murray1575 on Tue Nov 17 17:18:18 2015.

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I don't know what the local exchange was at CCNY but our phone number in the Bronx started with an "LU". I understand that stood for Ludlow?

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 18 16:00:26 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by murray1575 on Tue Nov 17 17:18:18 2015.

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I don't know what the local exchange was at CCNY but our phone number in the Bronx started with an "LU". I understand that stood for Ludlow?

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 16:34:36 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 12:41:25 2015.

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I have nothing to hide and you can't have $5,000.

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