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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 03:23:36 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 23 01:29:08 2014.

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yes, and Mr. Lyon can't come out of his cage right now either.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 23 03:27:47 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 03:23:36 2014.

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Mr Lyon is ALWAYS willing to come out of his cage, vespers willing, and wants to be patted whenever possible and skritched on the belly in lieu of OTchat. :)

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 03:57:26 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 23 03:27:47 2014.

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man, OT chat, like the title of that old Miles album, "Somethin' else"

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Oct 23 08:10:20 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 22 15:53:20 2014.

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You look at all that excess capacity at Chambers St., and it's sad it's not put to good use. That's (and the rest of the Centre/Nassau line) is why I hope that someday, the SAS is routed through it...

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 08:34:43 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by ntrainride on Wed Oct 22 22:06:14 2014.

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Yes, not as old as him. But still old. Like 'old man' old.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 08:45:03 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 19:53:36 2014.

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LOOOOMG before that dude. You attacked me years ago on the main board in off topic political posts. Don't play the martyr.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 08:45:57 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 19:30:42 2014.

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You accuse me of something vile, and that's not a false accusation? LOL.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 08:46:47 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by ntrainride on Wed Oct 22 18:54:48 2014.

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LOL!!! Like that would have anything to do with it.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 08:47:18 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by ntrainride on Wed Oct 22 22:06:14 2014.

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Hahaha. Now he's old....

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 23 09:11:36 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 08:45:57 2014.

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He's playing some absurd word game based on the meaning of the word "confirm." It's worthy of Olog and his word games concerning abortions and hurricanes.


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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 09:24:16 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 23 09:11:36 2014.

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Duh!! I know his act here, but I refuse to play his nonsensical games.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Oct 23 09:26:10 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 08:34:43 2014.

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your mama

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Oct 23 09:34:17 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 08:46:47 2014.

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I know. but stupid gets as stupid is.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 09:40:48 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 22 20:18:07 2014.

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Yeah, I think deer are the least of the things that could be there. They would be in Forest Park too.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 09:42:01 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Oct 21 09:05:19 2014.

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Deer are vegetarians. They don't go through things like garbage like racoons do. They'll eat your plants and bushes though!!

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 09:44:45 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 21 22:56:31 2014.

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Why do you bother? He will turn anything you post (right or wrong) completely around. He's actually worse than bingbong. He can't ever accept that he is wrong. He'll come up with some nonsense no matter what.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 09:47:09 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 20:01:50 2014.

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Hahahahaha! More projection. And it doesn't have anything to do with "when you came to OTChat". You earned your rep over at SubChat long ago.
Again, don't play the silent martyr.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 10:02:33 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 23:09:36 2014.

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I am reposting this to separate it from the rest of the Ozone Park thread.

1915 or'16 sticks in my head as the date - either read it or was told it.
funny though, you mentioned 1918, and for some reason, that year sticks in my head as well.

Below, is a URL for Public Service Commission report for 1916 page 192.
the reports details the PSC discussions, (during the previous years, 1914/ 1915) with the IRT about replacing Composites in the subway with steel cars.

http://books.google.com/books?id=BrsbAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA192&lpg=PA192&dq=public+service+commission+wood+subway+cars&source=bl&ots=KxUkfif0Pw&sig=_KQWdNdrgGfq14CrWq4VzXYFXPk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=bpNIVOe0Gs-PNuHJgIAJ&ved=0CDsQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=public%20service%20commission%20wood%20subway%20cars&f=false

To quote from this text:
On January 12, 1915 the Commission issued an order "A" directing the Interborough Rapid Transit Company to retire from operation on its subway lines known as the Manhagttan-Bronx rapid transit railroad and the Brooklyn-Manhattan rapid transit railroad, the cars of wooden construction known as copper-sheathed Composite cars ...on the subway lines and replace the cars with cars of all steel construction...beginning such retirement and replacement by
May 1, 1915 and completing the same by December 1915; thereafter not to put into service on its subway lines any of the cars of wooden construction so replaced and not to operate any casr on the subway lines for ... passengers except cars of steel construction...after the ... replacement of any of the wooden cars... not to put any of such ... cars into service on its subway lines... [elided text refers to: extending the deadline for IRT's replacement of Composites to April 1, 1916] ... Under date of March 23, 1916 the company wrote to the commission ... that all composite passenger bodies had been removed from subway service ... the Commission on April 6, 1916 ordered the aforementioned communications be filed.

so that's where the 1915 date comes from.

I realize the above might only refer to the IRT's rolling stock, and not an outright ban of operating wooden cars anywhere in the subway.

Interesting too that they refer to the IRT Brooklyn Lines (contract 3) as the Brooklyn-Manhattan rapid transit railroad.

This from nycsubway.org Culver Line page:
(As a result of the Malbone Street BRT disaster of November 1st, 1918, wooden cars were not permitted to run in the subway).

So, the 1918 date was found during research for that article.

I'm wondering though, would you be to provide/ find some kind of primary source for the 1918 date. It would be much appreciated.
If you can't, and got the info. from a secondary source I understand.

However, even with the 1918 ban I have a question about the C-types.
Previous post said they operated [in subway] through the Nassau Loop, but they were not built until 1923-1925. That's five years after the 1918 date.

long post. thanks for reading.

- PS - Larry Redbird or Randy O. could you help out here with a source for the 1918 ban, as well as operational details of the C-types on the Nassau Loop? if so, thanks.


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What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 10:06:01 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 23:09:36 2014.

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Damn! I'm reposting this a 3rd time to separate it from the rest of the Ozone Park thread. I gave it the above headline, but didn't remember to paste it in again when I arrowed back from the preview page

1915 or'16 sticks in my head as the date - either read it or was told it.
funny though, you mentioned 1918, and for some reason, that year sticks in my head as well.

Below, is a URL for Public Service Commission report for 1916 page 192.
the reports details the PSC discussions, (during the previous years, 1914/ 1915) with the IRT about replacing Composites in the subway with steel cars.

http://books.google.com/books?id=BrsbAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA192&lpg=PA192&dq=public+service+commission+wood+subway+cars&source=bl&ots=KxUkfif0Pw&sig=_KQWdNdrgGfq14CrWq4VzXYFXPk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=bpNIVOe0Gs-PNuHJgIAJ&ved=0CDsQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=public%20service%20commission%20wood%20subway%20cars&f=false

To quote from this text:
On January 12, 1915 the Commission issued an order "A" directing the Interborough Rapid Transit Company to retire from operation on its subway lines known as the Manhagttan-Bronx rapid transit railroad and the Brooklyn-Manhattan rapid transit railroad, the cars of wooden construction known as copper-sheathed Composite cars ...on the subway lines and replace the cars with cars of all steel construction...beginning such retirement and replacement by
May 1, 1915 and completing the same by December 1915; thereafter not to put into service on its subway lines any of the cars of wooden construction so replaced and not to operate any casr on the subway lines for ... passengers except cars of steel construction...after the ... replacement of any of the wooden cars... not to put any of such ... cars into service on its subway lines... [elided text refers to: extending the deadline for IRT's replacement of Composites to April 1, 1916] ... Under date of March 23, 1916 the company wrote to the commission ... that all composite passenger bodies had been removed from subway service ... the Commission on April 6, 1916 ordered the aforementioned communications be filed.

so that's where the 1915 date comes from.

I realize the above might only refer to the IRT's rolling stock, and not an outright ban of operating wooden cars anywhere in the subway.

Interesting too that they refer to the IRT Brooklyn Lines (contract 3) as the Brooklyn-Manhattan rapid transit railroad.

This from nycsubway.org Culver Line page:
(As a result of the Malbone Street BRT disaster of November 1st, 1918, wooden cars were not permitted to run in the subway).

So, the 1918 date was found during research for that article.

I'm wondering though, would you be to provide/ find some kind of primary source for the 1918 date. It would be much appreciated.
If you can't, and got the info. from a secondary source I understand.

However, even with the 1918 ban I have a question about the C-types.
Previous post said they operated [in subway] through the Nassau Loop, but they were not built until 1923-1925. That's five years after the 1918 date.

long post. thanks for reading.

- PS - Larry Redbird or Randy O. could you help out here with a source for the 1918 ban, as well as operational details of the C-types on the Nassau Loop? if so, thanks.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Oct 23 10:25:17 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 09:44:45 2014.

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I never got into the continuous harping on him. but you're right. only response he'll get from me, if I bother to respond, will be "your mama".

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by R30A on Thu Oct 23 10:52:47 2014, in response to What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 10:06:01 2014.

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IRT El cars ran underground on 9th ave-Jerome services til the end(and maybe longer. Was the polo grounds shuttle Low/High V from the beginning?). Q types ran underground in Flushing, and they were rebuilt for the 1939 worlds fair, and ran there well into the 1940s. Manhattan El cars ran on the Dyer ave line from when it was taken over into the 1950s, and the Dyer is largely underground.

I don't think the ban ever actually happened.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Oct 23 11:23:53 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 22 15:53:20 2014.

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randy,any photos of the c-types in the hole,this is something I never heard of.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Oct 23 11:28:00 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Oct 22 20:17:32 2014.

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tunnelrat has been all over,not just the hole.

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Oct 23 11:35:02 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by R30A on Thu Oct 23 10:52:47 2014.

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BRT gate cars did the same thing.the dyre is mostly ABOVE GROUND.not underground.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 23 12:14:41 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 03:57:26 2014.

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Uh ... yeah. :)

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 12:18:29 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Oct 23 11:35:02 2014.

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Thanks!
I'll answer the other post as well.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 12:20:41 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Oct 23 11:23:53 2014.

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yeah, neither have I, and like I posted, C-types were "built" in 1923-25 and the wooden car ban was supposed to have occurred in either 1915 or 1918.

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 12:45:23 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by R30A on Thu Oct 23 10:52:47 2014.

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Polo Grounds Shuttle had El cars replaced with Composites in June 1940, shortly before or after unification & the abandonment of the 9th ave. el. They operated there until March 1950.

El cars did run through the tunnel prior to that date, but this was probably not considered a subway - just a short tunnel a few blocks passing under the Ogden Ave. Ridge (thanks for that cite Roger Arcara!)

Q-Types (rebuilt BRT gate cars) and regular BRT gate cars could operate to Main St. terminal, due to their design containing more steel than Manhattan el cars.

re: the ban, please look at my first post, where I cite the PSC ban of Composites on the IRT main subway lines, as being 1915. Issue here being questioned, is ban date: 1915, or 1918 after Malbone St.
Thanks.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 12:52:34 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by ntrainride on Thu Oct 23 09:26:10 2014.

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What?

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 12:53:06 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by ntrainride on Thu Oct 23 09:34:17 2014.

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You're old. That's a fact.

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Oct 23 12:58:08 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by R30A on Thu Oct 23 10:52:47 2014.

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Always thought the Q's along with the 2nd Ave El gate cars were only allowed to go as far as Willets Point on the Flushing Line.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 12:58:56 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 23:05:22 2014.

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No I didn't. I posted the complete post.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Oct 23 12:59:28 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 17 21:14:24 2014.

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3a. For some of them the statute of limitations has long since lapsed. And in any case, that people regularly get away with something doesn't mean that everyone will.

3a(1). Admission doesn't equal proof. I can brag that I've been in the 76th Street station shell, but that doesn't make it true.


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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 13:00:12 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by ntrainride on Thu Oct 23 10:25:17 2014.

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That's because you have some issue with people calling you old. I get it - you don't want to accept that you are old. But that doesn't mean you have to make personal attacks against people just pointing out the truth - that you are old.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 13:01:16 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 09:44:45 2014.

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I know. But I wasn't going to pass up an opportunity to rehash SelkirkTMO's meltdowns and incivility.

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Thu Oct 23 13:01:37 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Oct 23 12:58:08 2014.

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Always thought the Q's along with the 2nd Ave El gate cars were only allowed to go as far as Willets Point on the Flushing Line.

The BMT Gates and Q's could go all the way to Main Street. The IRT Gates turned back at Willet's Point

Larry, RedbirdR33


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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Oct 23 13:12:23 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 12:53:06 2014.

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your mama

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Oct 23 13:13:33 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 12:52:34 2014.

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who?

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 13:13:38 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 18 08:49:51 2014.

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:::crickets:::

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 13:16:48 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 17 03:58:43 2014.

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I asked: "Is it possible to legally visit the Ozone Park station?"
I don't see that quote in the OP.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Oct 23 13:17:22 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 13:00:12 2014.

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your mama

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 13:18:41 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by ntrainride on Thu Oct 23 13:13:33 2014.

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haha made you post a different response! you fail! LIAR!

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Oct 23 13:21:03 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 13:18:41 2014.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 23 13:26:56 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 03:21:14 2014.

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For some reason, the PSC seemed a little more liberal with the BRT/BMT than with the IRT although the IRT continued to operate all wooden el cars through the Sedgwick/Anderson Av tunnel on the 9 Av El (later Polo Grounds Shuttle) even after the ban. There were also certain places line Main St/Flushing and 9 Av lower which were subway in construction bur wee parts of elevated lines. Technically at the time that the C types were first placed into service, the Centre St Line was a small part of the Bway Bkln El and that may have been the reason those cars were allowed there. I recall an old timer mentioning that he saw trains of C types on the Jamaica Line in service but that may just have been when they were new and only for purposes of qualifying crews.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 13:31:21 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 13:16:48 2014.

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You know, you are correct, I just checked the original post. He constantly twists what he posts (or what others post) to his own benefit, and one of the things that formed his terrible rep around here.

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 23 13:34:47 2014, in response to What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 10:06:01 2014.

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Now that I look at it, there may have been a loophole in the wording in the PSC's directive. The ruling bans wooden cars from SUBWAY lines, however, some of the places where wooden cars continued to operate such as 9 Av LL, Main St and even the Malbone St tunnel which gave rise to the ban were not subway lines per se but rather short underground portions of ELEVATED lines which is probably why they were allowed.

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 19:32:58 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 23 13:34:47 2014.

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I wondered about the same thing in an earlier post:
"El cars did run in [the PGS tunnel] prior to that date, but this was probably not considered a subway - just a short tunnel a few blocks [long]."

And I also was told years ago that:
Q-Types (rebuilt BRT gate cars) and regular BRT gate cars could operate to Main St. terminal, 'due to their design containing more steel'* than Manhattan el cars.

*I wrote this as a general description, since I didn't quite remember the specifics - more steel in the undercarriage design or in other parts of the BU's/Q's as well?



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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 23 19:46:06 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 18 08:49:51 2014.

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3a. So? If you're that confident, give it a try.

According to reports of poison ivy etc, it's probably not worth it.

3b. Adverse possession only affects the property so possessed. The original owner's claim to the rest of his property is unaffected.

The abandoned ROW is one single entity. If someone encroaches on the ROW, they'll only have an adverse possession claim to the part they encroach, but if they're able to encroach in the first place it means the nominal owner of the ROW hasn't been exerting property rights to any of it.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 23 19:46:09 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 13:16:48 2014.

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I don't see that quote in the OP.

That's because I didn't use those exact words in the OP. You really need to learn how to understand nuance and context.

I said:

Is there any way to get up to the platform/tracks of the Ozone Park station on the abandoned LIRR Rockaway line?

Preferably a method that doesn't require bolt cutters or grappling hooks or climbing a staircase that hasn't been maintained since 1962.


Or, in summary, "can it be done without doing something illegal or dangerous?"

Once you learn to stop taking everything completely literally, you'll understand.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 23 19:46:11 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 13:31:21 2014.

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You know, you are correct, I just checked the original post.

Oh, so you're a concrete thinker too? That would explain a lot.

He constantly twists what he posts (or what others post) to his own benefit...

Link or it didn't happen.

... and one of the things that formed his terrible rep around here.

Actually, my reputation around here is one of the best.

Name one person who (a) thinks I have a bad reputation, (b) can coherently articulate why, and (c) is not an idiot or an asshole.

Remember, (c) is very important— you are an idiot and an asshole, so it actually improves my reputation that you hate me.

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